My 2009-2010 effort: getting Leviticus 20:10 referendums on the ballot in many states

[zulchzulu]

I have this web site:
http://leviticus2010.com/

Here's the text of that passage in the Bible:

"And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

– Leviticus 20:10

Here is the mission:
We need to have a referendum in EVERY STATE that has passed anti-gay rights referendums in the past that has this to be voted on. Why?

It makes people vote on a marriage issue that is based from the Bible

To vote for the referendum would show that people care about the sanctity of marriage and the evils of infidelity and divorce

The effects of the referendum would not affect people who aren't or can't get married legally, never cheated in their marriage or never got divorced

It would make being put to death for divorce or infidelity a very lucrative way to have a pay-per-view television channel where proceeds could help balance the budget, get more weapons for the military, although that could be decided once the proceedings are scheduled.

Why on Earth wouldn't people who HAVE voted for anti-gay legislation not vote for equally evident Biblical commands that TRULY would defend the "sanctity of marriage" by not only denouncing infidelity and divorce, but making it a Biblical punishment for good measure?

Then we can look at who this would directly affect. People like Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, John McCain and so many other Republicans who are against gay marriage due to wanting to "protect marriage" would certainly be consistent and offer support for the referendum... no? Hell, it's in the Bible!

So... anyone know anything about their state and how it sets up referendums? Anyone else want to participate? PM me.

I know that getting people to sign up to support having the referendum on th ballot will be needed. Anyone who wants to do a video supporting why we need this are certainly welcome to submit their entry.

Any and all people who have media contacts should PM me as well. I have some connections with some progressive publications and someone at CNN who would love to have a story like this to cover.

It's time to fight back with what the right wing fights with... namely using the Bible for crazy crap. Let's do it!

[peace13]

1. Great idea...wrong forum! n/t

[Mojambo]

2. LOVE the idea! n/t

[cliffordu]

3. NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!!

This is a world class idea.

maybe on the wrong forum.


I would love to see this inacted.....

Just to watch Warren's head exxplode.

[yardwork]

4. I can get behind this.

It works especially well for me because I'm divorced. See, I'm already divorced, so it's no problem for me to pass this law 'cause it can't affect me again. That's the kind of logic that the fundies understand.

I'm liking this.

[Hellataz]

5. I like it, but...

It wont pass as is, the idea of cheating leading to death an all...but if the proposition were worded to say adultery would lead to jail time for breaking a legal marriage contract, then that might work at turning their own words against them.

[grannylib]

6. Excellent idea! I don't know exactly how this would work in Minnesota

as to the referendum thing, I'll have to check it out.
Use the enemies' own weapons against them...love it.

[Indiana_Dem]

7. Careful about that.

I've read on the internet where there are some groups like dominionists and some type of Jewish mysticist group (Chabad??) that actually want to bring back the Noahide Laws/Ten Commandments back into literal being! That would NOT be a good thing because then we'd ALL be in trouble! (good way to decrease the population and get us into those concentration camps you always hear about!) :tinfoilhat: You'd be playing right into their hands!

[IndianaGreen]

8. Leviticus 11:9-12 (the GAWD hates shellfish and catfish passage)

Leviticus 11: 9-12 says:

9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Deuteronomy 14: 9-10 says:

9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.


http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

[Sebastian Doyle]

10. Maybe that's the reason why the New England states have accepted either marriage or civil unions

They weren't taking any chances on a Fundie assault on the Lobster business! :evilgrin:

[bobbolink]

25. I was trying to think of some of the others in the same category.. thanks for adding these.

I really think this has some merit.

Or, then again, maybe it's just my twisted logic. :rofl:

(By the same logic, I think the Native Americans would do well to push the Creationism thingie.. then they can push under equal protection their own creation stories, as well as Polynesian, African, etc., and the fundies would give up in haste. I just like being that way. )

[pnorman]

9. I've been pissing off some of the GLBT community here,

with what the probably regard as "moral relativism", if not much worse. But I'm TOTALLY with you on that anti-hypocrisy campaign! GO FOR IT!

pnorman

[bluedawg12]

11. Excellent- K&R! Go for it bro!

[Norrin Radd]

12. kr

[unblock]

13. as if hypocrisy ever bothered them.

we need to get this on the SAME PROPOSITION as gay marriage, so they have ONE vote for BOTH topics.

otherwise, they'd have no problem with voting against gay marriage and leaving adultery be.

[central scrutinizer]

14. Ready made slogan: 20:10 in 2010

[rucky]

15. And that's a Commandment

which outranks a verse

[boomerbust]

16. Matthew 5: 44

5:44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. ...

[opihimoimoi]

17. STONING with Real Stones??? OMG...now what???

[Pab Sungenis]

18. Put the actual text, without the biblical quotes, into a Proposition in California

Proposition:

"Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.

"And the man that committs adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committs adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death."

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[Pab Sungenis]

26. Not you, and not all Californians.

Just 50.7% of them, on average.

[Pab Sungenis]

27. I'd donate to an effort to hire signature gatherers.

I'm sure some other people would, too.

[Gwendolyn]

28. Well, I hope you actually pick up the OT as well as the NT to find out...

...exactly what it is you're asking for before you set out on this noble quest. Basically the repeal of all women's rights. That's a step in the right direction! ;)

According to Jesus anyone who doesn't live a Godly life can be divorced. That pretty much nullifies the death penalty edict for 99% of the population.

[Raster]

29. Talk to the mormons. They might help pay for that.

[blue_onyx]

20. I would love this to be on Michigan's ballot in 2010

One of the leading GOP candidates for Governor, our Attorney General, started pushing lawsuits to ban public institution from providing domestic partnership benefit to same sex couples after MI passed the gay marriage ban in 2004. During the same time he was "protecting the sanctity of marriage," he publicly admitted to having an extramarital affair. It would be interesting to have something like this on the ballot if he was to be the GOP nominee.

[populistdriven]

21. Love It! But in gerrymandering states our efforts will be better served to fix redistricting. nt

[Deja Q]

23. Fine by me. Cheaters might have a disease or get one - in the case of AIDS, it's lethal

(read up on the "treatment" drug side-effects and that's worse than death)

So, yeah, guilty of cheating? Bye.

[wiley]

30. How about all sex out of wedlock?

Wouldn't it follow that those people are equally at risk of getting AIDS? Everyone should be tested for AIDS anyway, and have to apply for a license to have sex, and definitely one to have children as well. In fact, anyone who can't pass a GED level examination should not be allowed to have sex. If the fees were paid to specific churches, even those who consider condoms a sin would go for it, don't you think?

[Gwendolyn]

24. Leviticus only refers to adultery, that is, infidelity between married people.

It doesn't affect a married man or woman who takes a single lover. In biblical times, a man could take a secondary wife or concubine and have all the fun he liked. If he tired of her, he could simply divorce her and turn her out with nothing. Not sure anyone wants to go there.

Reuben slept with Jacob's concubine and lost his birthright, not his life. It implies that as always, children of the wealthy escape punishment, and adulterers could easily make their cases based on that story.