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dcsmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:01 PM
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Who has the power
out of all the websites and bloggers and journalists out there, who has the power to change political opinion. who do the politicians listen to. do they listen to anyone. i know that Progressive Democrats of America have made a name for themselves and have politicians listening to them. but who else?
Move-on, maybe. can the e-activists make a difference. any particular power houses out there.....what's the thinking on this.

:shrug:
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:07 PM
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1. D-muthafukin-U!
;):D
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dcsmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:11 PM
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2. in what way.

who reads this site other than other posters. how does this site influence anyone. not an answer, sorry....
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:29 PM
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3. It wasn't meant to be...
...sorry.:eyes:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 11:45 PM
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4. They listen
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 11:59 PM by undergroundpanther
to those that give them more power(or money,sexual favors,gifts etc.),and those who threaten their place of power.
Otherwise you are invisible,basically.
Threaten them and you might find yourself in danger.
Or be rich enough to buy them,or close to them so you are considered part of their circle.All weilders of power build a circle of people to insulate themselves from others and hide within or use certain less valued members as patsies or to 'fall on the sword' for the big kahuna.

Look at who the riot police attack and what is not reported or is under reported. There you will see who is a threat.

Anarchists apparently scare the living shit out of the G8 and the more'capitalist' power mongers.They call out all sorts of police to keep them away from their clandestine meetings.

http://struggle.ws/a_news/an25_genoa.html

Food Not Bombs for instance threatens them because they GIVE AWAY food to homeless people. This is because having control over food and who has the"privlege" of eating or drinking is a way to control a population.

The most desperate threaten them because they have nothing to lose if they should mobilize.
People who believe death makes them a martyr threaten them because they cannot be cowed by death or threat of death or even torture.

These people threaten the authoritarian operations of this so called democracy.

Become a threat you will see.
An empire that is in any form authoritarian cannot tolerate a community with equality and sharing within it's owned and corporate lands.

They will destroy it.

That's why Abbie Hoffman's Free Store was firebombed.The hippies scared the shit out of the authoritarians. Like always.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:29 AM
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6. Nailed it in one, thank you. n/t
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:26 AM
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7. Now that is a great example of why
replies should get recs and get promoted to the greatest page. There were hints of a DU 2.0 where this could happen, but, alas, not yet. But if I can't recommend it up into greater prominence, at least I can say thanks, and right on.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:29 AM
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9. undergroundpanther nailed it
It was well said
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:29 AM
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10. I can repost it as another post
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:57 AM
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11. Do so.
Maybe in daytime. DUers get a bit fickle and entranced by the corporate talking-points-of-the-day, but maybe a few more will understand. Even one more getting a bit more of a clue is worth the try.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:09 AM
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12. I'll post it again tomorrow too
If itgets on greatest it will be there all day tommorrow too.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:24 AM
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5. Power is derived from the masses and not single person.
Power is given, not assumed. We all give to the Democratic power by being single on issues and pushing in a defined way to acheive a determined result.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:28 AM
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8. You are wrong
Case in point Stanley Milgram's results.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/9244/stanley_milgrams_psychological_experiment.html

Bullies
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm

Social engineering
http://hubpages.com/hub/What-is-social-engineering

and there are many more reasons why you are wrong about the masses.
Most people have an OUTER locus of control and so seem unable to lead themselves.The masses are manipulated and they hate to admit it.

We do not live in a democracy, it only had the appearance of one.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:43 PM
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13. "The masses are manipulated and they hate to admit it."
How you get the masses attention is irrelavant. The relevant part is that you need it to obtain power.
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