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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:50 PM
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Willful Denial, Arrogance and Stupidity
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 09:43 PM by Time for change
“How do I respond when I see that in some Islamic nations there is vitriolic hatred for America? I’ll tell you how I respond: I’m amazed. I’m amazed that there is such misunderstanding of what our country is about that people would hate us. Like most Americans, I just can’t believe it because I know how good we are” – George W. Bush, trying to understand why a nation whose country he invaded and destroyed, in the process killing a million innocent civilians and creating four million refugees, is not grateful to him for the “freedom” that he brought to them.


One of our worst traits as a nation is our unwillingness to recognize or admit to the bad things that our government does – in our name. Of course, in order to facilitate our denial of our government’s bad actions, it helps greatly if the things that our government wants us to deny are virtually unmentionable. I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating:

There are numerous things that absolutely cannot be mentioned by American politicians because they are …. well, “embarrassing to our country”. Mere mention of these things brings down the wrath of conservative pundits and moderates as well, and even some who consider themselves to be liberal or progressive. The wrath is likely to be so intense that few U.S. politicians dare mention these things because of the risk of being booted out of office – or worse. Three such things are: 1. the stealing of a U.S. presidential election; 2. referring to American military or covert actions as immoral, rather than merely as “misguided”; and, 3. imputing bad intentions, rather than mere incompetence, onto a U.S. president.

Since we are a democracy, the consequences of our failure to recognize the bad things that our government does means that our government will therefore be enabled to continue to do those things with impunity. William Blum explains in “Freeing the World to Death”:

This is the main reason that the U.S. can get away with what it does all over the world – the lack of awareness of the American people about US foreign policy. These Americans are not necessarily stupid, but there are all kinds of intelligence in this world… There’s political intelligence, which might be defined as the ability to see through the bullshit which every society, past, present and future, feeds its citizens from birth on to assure the continuance of the prevailing ruling class and its ideology.


Some examples of the American propensity for denial, arrogance and stupidity

Before I discuss the psychology behind these attitudes, I’ll give some examples so as to put the issue in perspective:

Our failure to hold a president and a vice president accountable for a multitude of crimes
One of our sorriest episodes as a nation was our utter failure to hold George Bush and Dick Cheney accountable for the many crimes they committed against us and other peoples of the world. It isn’t as if the evidence wasn’t readily available. On June 9th, 2008, Congressman Dennis Kucinich presented 35 articles of impeachment to the U.S. House of Representatives. They are worth summarizing here:

Articles I – XIII: Creating a propaganda campaign and lying to the American people and Congress in order to build a false case for war against Iraq; then invading and occupying Iraq, in violation of U.S. and international law and in the absence of any good reason whatsoever; then failing to provide our troops with the body armor they needed, falsifying accounts of US troop deaths, and establishing permanent military bases in Iraq.

Article XIV: Exposing a covert CIA agent.

Articles XV-XVI: Providing immunity from prosecution to criminal contractors in Iraq and recklessly wasting US tax dollars on contractors in Iraq.

Articles XVII-XX: Indefinitely detaining our prisoners, including children, without charges or any legal rights, torturing them, and kidnapping people and transporting them to other countries to be tortured.

Article XXI: Lying to the American people and Congress, with the goal of overthrowing the Iranian government.
Article XXII: Creating secret laws.
Article XXIII: Violating the Posse Comitatus Act
Articles XXIV – XXV: Spying on American citizens in violation of our 4th Amendment.
Article XXVI: Announcing intent to violate duly enacted laws with signing statements.
Article XXVII: Failure to comply with Congressional subpoenas.
Article XXVIII - XXIX: Tampering with free and fair elections and corruption of the administration of justice.
Article XXX: Misleading Congress and the American people in an attempt to destroy Medicare.
Article XXXI: Failure to plan for or adequately respond to Hurricane Katrina.
Article XXXII: Obstructing efforts to address global climate change.

Article XXXIII - XXXV: Failure to respond to the 9/11 attacks on our country; then endangering the health of first responders and obstructing investigation into the attacks.

Congressman Kucinich spelled out the evidence for each of these serious crimes and misdeeds. Yet the U.S. House of Representatives utterly failed to hold the Bush administration accountable for any of them, through impeachment or any other means. Presumably, the main rationale for this failure was along the lines that it would be too disruptive for our nation or be seen as too “partisan”. In short, the idea that a sitting President would engage in such things was seen as too painful for our nation to bear.

Expressing outrage over publicizing the Bush/Cheney torture policies
On June 14th, 2005, Senator Richard Durbin exposed, on the floor of the US Senate, the Bush administration treatment of its prisoners by reading directly from an FBI report:

On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food, or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for eighteen to twenty-four hours or more. On one occasion… the temperature was so cold in the room that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold… On another occasion… the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him….

Durbin then provided his own opinion on the matter:

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in the gulags, or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others – that had no concern for human beings….

It is not too late. I hope we will learn from history…. The president could declare the United States will apply the Geneva Conventions to the war on terrorism… that the United States will not, under any circumstances, subject any detainee to torture…

For this courageous act, Durbin was subjected to a torrent of abuse from the Republican Party, called a traitor, accused of stabbing our troops in the back, and eventually pressured into apologizing.

Hypocritical standard for war crimes
After World War II, the victorious Allies set up the Nuremberg Military Tribunal, which they used to prosecute several top Nazis for war crimes, sentencing 12 of them to death and 7 to long term prison sentences. One of the most famous statements made by the Chief US prosecutor of the Tribunal was:

We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it… Our position is that no grievances… will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an implement of policy…

The Tribunal’s final judgment stated:

To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime. It is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.

One of the biggest criticisms of the Nuremberg Tribunal was that the Allies applied standards that they would be unwilling to subject themselves to. But in 1998, 120 member states of the United Nations created the International Criminal Court (ICC), with the goal of holding all of the world accountable for war crimes and other crimes against humanity. President Clinton signed the treaty in 2000, but George Bush unsigned it in 2002.

The vast majority of Americans approve of our holding the Nazi war criminals accountable for starting World War II. Yet, substantially smaller numbers approve of holding George Bush accountable for his equally illegal invasion of Iraq. I defy anyone to explain how Bush’s invasion of Iraq in 2003 was more legal or moral than Hitler’s invasion of Poland in 1939, for which we sentenced several Nazi war criminals to death.

Refusing to condone the provision of an honest education for our children
Worst of all is the fact that our nation insists on keeping its children in the dark about our true history. In November 1994, the National Council for History Standards (NCHS), having used an unprecedented process of open debate, multiple reviews, and the active participation of the largest organizations of history educators in the nation, released its proposed National Standards for United States History.

That document was meant to provide voluntary guidelines for national curricula in history for grades 5-12. As explained by Gary Nash, who led the effort, these standards were meant to have one thing in common: “to provide students with a more comprehensive, challenging, and thought-provoking education in the nation's public schools.” Their signature features were said to include “a new framework for critical thinking and active learning” and “repeated references to primary documents that would allow students to read and hear authentic voices from the past”.

Major critics of the document included Newt Gingrich, Lynn Cheney and Republican presidential candidates Pat Buchanan and Bob Dole. Dole blamed the document on “the embarrassed to be American crowd” of “intellectual elites”. Lynn Cheney aggressively criticized the document as containing “multicultural excess”, a “grim and gloomy portrayal of American history”, “a politicized history”, and a disparaging of the West.

Nash defended the document from the historians’ point of view:

To be sure, it is not possible to recover the history of women, African Americans, religious minorities, Native Americans, laboring Americans, Latino Americans, and Asian Americans without addressing issues of conflict, exploitation, and the compromising of the national ideals set forth by the Revolutionary generation… To this extent, the standards counseled a less self-congratulatory history of the United States and a less triumphalist Western Civilization orientation toward world history…

Historians have never regarded themselves as anti-patriots because they revise history or examine sordid chapters of it. Indeed, they expose and critique the past in order to improve American society and to protect dearly won gains… This is not a new argument. Historians have periodically been at sword's point with vociferous segments of the public, especially those of deeply conservative bent.

The U.S. Senate’s rejected the document in 1995 by a vote of 99-1.


The psychology behind the American propensity for denial

Denial is a very common psychological defense mechanism that people use in order to avoid the psychological pain of having to face something that is very unpleasant to them. It is so common that all humans use it to one degree or another on occasion. But as we grow we learn to face things that were previously too difficult for us to face, and that is part of the process of emotional maturation. Mastering this process gives us the strength to face the world as it really is, rather than as we would like it to be. With regard to the denial of evil, Laura Knight-Jadczyk explains:

Human beings have been accustomed to assume that other human beings are – at the very least – trying to “do right” and “be good” and fair and honest. And so, very often, we do not take the time to use due diligence in order to determine if a person who has entered our life is, in fact, a “good person”.

That helps to explain why innocent people deny the bad things that other people do. There is a somewhat different explanation for why people deny their own murderous actions. Noam Chomsky explains that in his book, “What we Say Goes”:

When you conquer somebody and suppress them, you have to have a reason. You can’t just say, “I’m a son of a bitch and I want to rob them.” You have to say it’s for their good, they deserve it, or they actually benefit from it. We’re helping them. That was the attitude of slave owners. Most of them didn’t say, “Look, I’m enslaving these people because I want easily exploitable, cheap labor for my own benefit.” They said, “We’re doing them a favor. They need it.”

William Blum speaks specifically of the American tendency to deny (or be willfully ignorant of) the immoral international acts that its government commits in their name:

I believe that the main cause of this ignorance about foreign policy among Americans has to do with the deeply held belief that no matter what the US does abroad, no matter how bad it may look, no matter what horror may result, the United States means well. American leaders may make mistakes, they may blunder, they may even on the odd occasion cause more harm than good, but they do mean well. Their intentions are always noble. Of that Americans are certain… They see their leaders on TV and their photos in the press, they see them smiling or laughing, telling jokes; they see them with their families, they hear them speak of God and love, of peace and the law, of democracy and freedom, of human rights and justice… How can such people be moral monsters? They have names like George and Dick and Donald, not a single Mohammed or Abdulla…

Former US Senator William Fulbright, an outspoken critic of the Vietnam War, explains the phenomenon (page 51) in a more generic way:

Power tends to confuse itself with virtue and a great nation is peculiarly susceptible to the idea that its power is a sign of God’s favor, conferring upon it a special responsibility for other nations – to remake them in its own shining image.


“Conspiracy theorists”

Our leaders and ruling elites have a number of tools for keeping us in denial about the bad things that they do. Corporate domination of our national news media, along with their refusal to talk about such things as Bush administration war crimes, is one of their most important ones. But widespread availability of the Internet has certainly reduced the effectiveness of that tool.

One of the last strategies in their firewall is to marginalize people who threaten them by bringing up topics that make them uncomfortable. That is what they effectively did to political figures like Dennis Kucinich, John Edwards and Cynthia McKinney. One of their major tactics for marginalizing people who seriously question their own version of reality is to refer to them as “conspiracy theorists”. In fact, they use that term to denote a kind of mental illness, the implication of the label being that such people are kooks and should not be taken seriously, or that they should be regarded with contempt. No matter that world history is chock full of conspiracies used by people to obtain or maintain their wealth and power. Anyone who questions their own version of reality is a “conspiracy theorist” and a weirdo. And so successfully have our ruling elites sold this paradigm to the American people that much or most of them, including those who have no means of benefiting from it, buy their “conspiracy theorist” labels. Thus it is that people who care about their country and their fellow citizens and who question the version of reality hoisted upon them by our ruling elites are often known as kooky “conspiracy theorists”.

My daughter recently experienced a mild version of this. In response to a post on her Facebook page urging her friends to ask Obama to invest in a more thorough investigation of the 9/11 attacks, Carrie received the following e-mail from an old high school friend who is an FBI agent:

Hi Carrie, how have you been? Just curious. In what way would you like the government to take the 9/11 attacks more seriously? Is there a conspiracy theory?

Such is the willful denial of most Americans regarding the actions of their country that even a simple request to re-investigate the event with the most far reaching implications of our times elicits reactions of incredulity. Does my daughter’s FBI friend not realize that our interpretation of the events of 9/11 have committed our nation to hundreds of billions of dollars annually in the cause of a perpetual war with no foreseeable end? Does she not realize how woefully inadequate those events have been investigated to date? Does she not realize how absurd the rest of the world sees our nation’s own conspiracy theory, which constitutes its official explanation of the events of 9/11? And is she not aware that the organization that she belongs to went to great lengths prior to the 9/11 attacks, to successfully obstruct investigation into warnings that could have prevented them from occurring?


How will this ever end?

This unquestioning attitude of allegiance to, confidence in, and even worshipping of those who have the most power to control the fate of our country, no matter what crimes they commit, is unhealthy in the extreme. Those on the right call it “patriotism”. I call it willful denial, arrogance and stupidity. And the longer it takes to stop, the more likely and sooner it will be that our planet is engulfed in world-wide catastrophe.

I’ll end this post with a comment from William Blum, which is highly appropriate to our current situation:

If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against American targets in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize – very publicly and very sincerely – to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. Then I would announce that America’s global interventions – including the awful bombings – have come to an end… I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions. There would be more than enough money… One year of the US military budget is equal to $20,000 per hour for every hour since Jesus Christ was born.

That’s what I’d do on my first three days in the White House. On the fourth day, I’d be assassinated.

And I will second Blum’s plan. If I was president I would try to find a way to do something similar to what he’s suggesting … if I had the courage to do so.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:05 PM
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1. He's right about that...
on the fourth day he'd be assassinated. The American people would no doubt join the propaganda machine and celebrate.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5564
II. More than 1000 US Bases and/or Military Installations

The main sources of information on these military installations (e.g. C. Johnson, the NATO Watch Committee, the International Network for the Abolition of Foreign Military Bases) reveal that the US operates and/or controls between 700 and 800 military bases Worldwide.

In this regard, Hugh d’Andrade and Bob Wing's 2002 Map 1 entitled "U.S. Military Troops and Bases around the World, The Cost of 'Permanent War'", confirms the presence of US military personnel in 156 countries.

The US Military has bases in 63 countries. Brand new military bases have been built since September 11, 2001 in seven countries.

In total, there are 255,065 US military personnel deployed Worldwide.

These facilities include a total of 845,441 different buildings and equipments. The underlying land surface is of the order of 30 million acres. According to Gelman, who examined 2005 official Pentagon data, the US is thought to own a total of 737 bases in foreign lands. Adding to the bases inside U.S. territory, the total land area occupied by US military bases domestically within the US and internationally is of the order of 2,202,735 hectares, which makes the Pentagon one of the largest landowners worldwide (Gelman, J., 2007).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5564


The Mega-Pentagon: A Bush-Enabled Monster We Can't Stop
The Pentagon has developed a taste for unrivaled power and unequaled access to the treasury that won't be easily undone by future administrations.
by Frida Berrigan, Tomdispatch.com
www.alternet.org/, May 28, 2008
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Military_Budget/Mega_Pentagon.html
Of all the frontiers of expansion, perhaps none is more striking than the Pentagon's sorties into the future. Does the Department of Transportation offer a Vision for 2030? Does the Environmental Protection Agency develop plans for the next fifty years? Does the Department of Health and Human Services have a team of power-point professionals working up dynamic graphics for what services for the elderly will look like in 2050?
These agencies project budgets just around the corner of the next decade. Only the Pentagon projects power and possibility decades into the future, colonizing the imagination with scads of different scenarios under which, each year, it will continue to control hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars.
Complex 2030, Vision 2020, UAV Roadmap 2030, the Army's Future Combat Systems - the names, which seem unending, tell the tale.
As the clock ticks down to November 4, 2008, a lot of people are investing hope (as well as money and time) in the possibility of change at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. But when it comes to the Pentagon, don't count too heavily on change, no matter who the new president may be. After all, seven years, four months, and a scattering of days into the Bush presidency, the Pentagon is deeply entrenched in Washington and still aggressively expanding. It has developed a taste for unrivaled power and unequaled access to the treasure of this country. It is an institution that has escaped the checks and balances of the nation.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:05 AM
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8. One of the best books I've ever read about the machinatons of the Pentagon --
or anything else for that matter, is "House of War" by James Carroll.

He's the son of a high ranking general who worked there when he was a boy. His book is meticulously researched, and paints a picture of an institution that grown to such power that presidents are virtually powerless to control it.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:19 PM
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2. if US Cold War foreign relations was taught in classes,
by 2020 there would be 3 parties in Congress: Greens, Social Democrats, and Marxists
Italy's "strategia della tensione" to the million or so killed in Angola and Mozambique, from the 100,000 in Central America (in 1979-94 ALONE) to the 30,000 in Argentina's Klaus-Barbie-inspired death camps, and the 2 million Vietname and countless acres of rainforest
After going through decades of this, many 20th-c. historians puke at the U.S.'s incessant cries of victimhood at the hands of a monolithic, ultimate evil (whether Russkie or Muslim). And how dare even "critics" of this American empire of effluence say that it "lowered" itself to the "Soviets' level" by its actions?
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:26 PM
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3. Only conservatives are in denial. Unfortunately, this nation was
built on lies, criminality and deceit.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:40 PM
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5. That doesn't mean we can't attempt to evolve beyond it at some point.
"this nation was built on lies, criminality and deceit."

That is why many choosing to progress beyond our origins refer to America as "the promise of America".
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:37 PM
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6. evolve?? I realize this country is but two centuries old.............
but just how long should that take? I know none of us will be around to see it. Good luck with that.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:22 AM
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17. Thanks! I think it's preferable to giving up. Not that I am an optimist, just not dead yet.nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:19 PM
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19. Absolutely
Progress may be slow, but we must never stop trying.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:23 PM
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20. Do you believe or know anyone that believes Politicians tell the truth?
As long as that is an acceptable axiom in America your Promise is just a Dream..
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:31 PM
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4. And Clinton's BJ was grounds for lynching - if the GOP had had their way.
I'm not even angry any more, just thoroughly disappointed with my fellow citizens.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:21 PM
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7. And the worst of all these....
is the Israeli apologist.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:22 AM
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9. We are ignorant at our own peril.
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 02:29 AM by balantz
As the rulers treat little people elsewhere like they do, they can certainly treat those of us who may become useless to them.

And they now hire private police and mercenaries from anywhere in the world to do their dirty work either abroad or at home.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:31 AM
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10. Another brilliantly truthful piece. K&R
Now, who was it that was saying that this needs to change?



Oh yes...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:15 AM
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16. Yes, it would be great if Kucinich was our President
Unfortunately, our country probably isn't ready for him yet -- or perhaps more accurately, our corporate news media made sure that Americans aren't ready to accept him.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:47 AM
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11. great post
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:25 PM
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23. Thank you
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:17 AM
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12. KandR. Excellent research/post. eom.
peace~
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 04:01 PM
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25. Thank you
William Blum has a lot of very interesting things to say.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:53 PM
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28. Agree
When I read his name in your post, I immediately recalled the essay that you quoted from at the end.
Chris Floyd was another favorite who comes to mind.
I have to confess my laziness....
I don't have to do much research now. I spent a couple of years doing constant research prior to coming to DU.

Your compilations are excellent!
Thank you for being here...thank you for being such a wonderful asset to our community by providing a wealth of information.


peace~
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whoopingcrone Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:08 AM
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13. If we agree with your analysis...
and I do.. what steps would you suggest we take
to correct the state of affairs you portray?

Attempting to teach our children a more accurate version
of past events would certainly be desirable.
But how many teachers would we find willing to revise their own notions
to the degree needed for endorsing and passing on a different story?
And how long would those who did be allowed to stay in the classroom?
How many students would agree to listen, much less think about
and discuss what they were being asked to reevaluate?
And, once they did, how long would it take for them to be expelled?






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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:17 AM
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14. Those are very good questions
I don't have any good answers.

One thing that would help would be a charismatic president who has a very different view of our role in the world than most of our past presidents. It's possible that Obama could be that man, but he hasn't given a lot of signs of it lately.

It will probably take a massive grass roots movement. It is encouraging that more and more people are getting their information through the Internet today. Not that the Internet provides all accurate news -- but it certainly provides a much wider range of views than we get through our corporate media. I think that it has already made substantial differences in the composition of Congress, and possibly played an important role in the 08 presidential election. It may be the key that provides the tipping point to obtaining a better educated citizenry.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:46 AM
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15. There's a lesson here
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 09:47 AM by The Wizard
"For this courageous act, Durbin was subjected to a torrent of abuse from the Republican Party, called a traitor, accused of stabbing our troops in the back, and eventually pressured into apologizing."

Every Democrat who apologizes when the Republican propaganda machine throws a tantrum in feigned outrage loses. Ask John Kerry.
Barack Obama refused to apologize for making a "lipstick on a pig comment" and he won.
If our leadership doesn't stand up to the outrageous propaganda spewed by lying Republicans then the leadership needs to be changed.
Al Franken is the kind of Democrat who won't back down from Nazi propaganda.
Challenge them, and hit them in the face with the truth. Reaching across the aisle results in pulling back a bloody stump. It's time for the Democratic majority to brass knuckle these fascist scum.
It's time to stop apologizing for the deliberate false characterization of Democrats by the enemies of democracy and the Constitution.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:35 AM
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49. hear hear!
and dismantle the propaganda outlets they depend on.

I hate seeing it every time a whistleblower caves to the pigs.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:32 AM
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18. republican talk radio is the great enabler
what we have had for the last 20 years, since reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine, is coordinated enabling of denial on national levels. as long as the talk radio monopoly continues to be ignored by progressives democracy and bipartisanship will continue to be a hoax and our and obama's work to get out of this bush nightmare will be much slower.

every evening dems on TV have to spend time defending themselves and progressive interests to people who are repeating myths and lies and distortions established earlier in the day or week or month by liars and fools who have been put on the largest and loudest UNCONTESTED soapbox the country has ever had.

until that monopoly is recognized as the main reason why we are in this bush disaster and reduced, real democracy and bipartisanship are impossible.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:59 PM
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35. I agree we need the Fairness Doctrine restored immediately
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:37 PM
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21. Kicking!
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:19 PM
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22. very powerful and of course accurate...
the complicity of the our own Democratic elected officials may be the most depressing part of it all... Among the saddest sentences in this whole piece were "Durbin...pressured into apologizing" ( is there ANYTHING that a Democrat can't be pressured into apologizing for, unless your name is Kucinich?) , and "rejected...by a vote of 99-1" ( I'll take a wild guess here that a few Democrats were among the 99). The"on the fourth day I'd be assassinated" quote is pretty chilling too. Wonder if you're familiar with this quote by the late great comedian Bill Hicks? : "No matter what promises you make on the campaign trail, blah blah blah, when you win, you go into this smoky room with the 12 industrialist, capitalist scumfucks that got you in there, and this little screen comes down...and its a shot of the JFK assassination from an angle you've never seen before, which looks suspiciously like the grassy knoll, and then the screen comes up and the lights go on, and they ask the new president "any questions?" Its really all pretty hopeless when you realize how many people are permanently brainwashed. I'm a total pessimist when it comes to thinking anything can be done to stop these people through the only way I'm morally willing to participate in : that being non-violence, but will continue to act as if I thought that there is a chance. Giving up is exactly what they want, and I'll never give em the satisfaction, even knowing damn well its hopeless.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:42 PM
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29. Thank you -- I wasn't familiar with that quote by Hicks
As I read your description, I forgot that it was supposed to be a joke. Then I realized it was just a joke. But I have often wondered about that kind of thing, and I do believe that some version of it takes place -- what the version is, or how often or in what circumstances, I don't know. But it just seems to me that a lot of very powerful, well meaning people seem to be muzzled. Obama seems to be especially muzzled lately. Seems like he's already had his meeting.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:25 PM
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24. K&R -nt
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:13 PM
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26. Wow! Great Big K&R and If Blogs Could Get Pulitzers, I'd Nominate YOU!
That was right on. Massively comprehensive and to the point. And devastatingly cynical. And depressing, as Truth often is. But invaluable. Thanks!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:32 PM
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32. Thank you Demeter
It certainly is depressing. And I do feel cynical writing about this.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:21 PM
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27. I happened to read a counter-example to some of that just today
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2000/09/13/lee/index.html

"Before the Lee case ever came to light, Newt Gingrich had already charged that President Clinton "had approved turning over missile secrets to the Chinese." Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., chairman of the House Space and Aeronautics subcommittee, claimed the president "betrayed the interests of our country," and Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., charged that Bill Clinton was "guilty of high treason.""

these people seemed to readily get away with

"3. imputing bad intentions, rather than mere incompetence, onto a U.S. president."

Perhaps that just illustrates the power of the RWNM that those people were not thereby flogged on the M$M.



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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:46 PM
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40. Ah yes....
I forgot about the exception for Democratic presidents.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:01 PM
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30. While American arrogance is somewhat unique experience as the incredibly stupid phrase
"only in America" often shows (and ironically could only be used in Amercia without a speaker breaking out in laughter), denial is a universal phenomenon.

It is common for individuals and nations to judge themselves by their intentions and their advesaries by their actions.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:09 PM
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31. No question about that
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:41 PM
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33. K & R, bookmarked. Absolutely amazing essay!
Maybe this is being overly optimistic, but I believe that as a nation, we are big enough to handle the truth. Some of us are, anyway. I figure that if I can stand it--and I don't consider myself all that strong a person--so can other Americans. We'd be a much stronger nation once we got past the initial pain and disillusionment.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:41 PM
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39. Thank you -- I agree with your optimism
I believe that many or most of us could handle it, though few Republicans or other right wingers could.

It's not just the denial of ordinary Americans that is keeping us from the truth. Even moreso it is the concentrated efforts of our ruling elites to keep the truth from us. Maybe some day the damn will break and the truth will come pouring out.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:50 PM
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34. Many, if not most, Americans choose to believe the lies, because the "can't handle the truth".
I have seen this in one form or another. Try to tell some one you know about any one of the atrocities mentioned above and they will stop you. They can't deal with the knowledge that life isn't ordered and good. Some will try to belittle you and call you names to shut you up. It isn't their fault. They have been raised to believe in a very limited reality. The government is good and the US would never do wrong. I blame churches some for this problem. They teach faith which reduces peoples need to seek truth. Just have faith in your government.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:56 PM
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41. I think that there is a large variation on this among Americans
Some can't handle learning anything bad about their countries, and others really want the truth. And then there are all variations in between. I have a friend who thinks we ought to totally replace our capitalistic economic system with socialism, and yet when I talk about MIHOP or LIHOP he says that's just too much for him to believe.
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:59 PM
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36. Outstanding.
Well-written, well-researched, and well-reasoned. Great in every way.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:08 PM
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44. Thank you
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:18 PM
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37. Recomend. Trying to reply to this I found myself so frustrated that I couldn't think.
It is very difficult to admit that our experiment in democracy has devolved into the same structure that we humans have been using since we started keeping written historical records. Only now, instead of monarchy we have traded in on a twisted form of republican (little "r") government.

The nations/powers that have ruled the planet have always done so through military conquest. We are no different. Our masters have learned to dress it up and put lipstick on it so the majority of us think of it as spreading democracy rather than maintaining the empire, but it's still the same as the Persians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Mongolians, Chinese, French, Dutch, British, Japanese, and any others I fail to mention.

It's the old Alpha male thing that we just cannot evolve beyond.

I won't stop trying to change our country but I think that I have finally decided to quit thinking of America as a representative form of government.

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:07 PM
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43. Our Founding Fathers were very worried about something like this happening
Madison on the need to keep the war making power out of the hands of the chief executive:

In no part of the Constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war and peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department… The trust and the temptation would be too great for any one man.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=875&chapter=63915&layout=html&Itemid=27

Jefferson on the evils of severe income inequality:

The consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislatures cannot invest too many devices for subdividing property… Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labor and live on.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=967

Jefferson on corrupt governments:

When once a republic is corrupted there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption . . . every other correction is either useless or a new evil.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1222-31.htm

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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:22 PM
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38. k n r. you said it all....and yet a lot of great replies make this
thread one of the best things I've seen here in quite some time.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:10 PM
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45. Thank you -- Yes, there was a lot of excellent discussion on this.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:03 PM
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42. THIS is the type of post that should be getting 100+ recs here
Absolutely top-notch stuff. Fantastic research and true as all hell.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:10 PM
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46. Thank you
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:12 PM
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47. wonderful post
I wish it wasn't too late to recommend.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 04:47 AM
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48. Too late for me to recommend.
I've been pulling for stripping the DoD from it's funding for a long time. If we want peace in the world we have to ask other nations why they hate us. We could shower them with humanitarian aid and seek their approval. With universal praise we could accomplish anything. It's the corparitists that stand in the way to clean skies and universal happiness.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 05:24 PM
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50. kick
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