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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:56 PM
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Peru pushes claim on $500M shipwreck treasure
Source: The Associated Press
Thu, Jan 29, 2009 (1:57 p.m.)

Peru says it is pushing forward with a legal claim in the U.S. seeking $500 million in silver coins plucked from the wreck of a Spanish galleon that sank in 1804.

A public decree issued by the Foreign Ministry orders Lima's ambassador in Washington to hire attorneys to try to recover 17 tons of coins.

Peru claimed the treasure in U.S. District Court in Florida last year, arguing that the coins were made from Peruvian silver and minted in Lima.

Spain's government is also suing Tampa-based Odyssey Marine Exploration for the loot, which was found off Portugal in 2007.

Peru was a Spanish colony at the time the ship sank.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jan/29/peru-pushes-claim-on-500m-shipwreck-treasure/
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:38 PM
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1. Far be it from me to argue with a newspaper....
but I don't think Spain was sailing anything remotely like a "Galleon" in 1804...could they mean 1604?
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 02:02 AM
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2. LOL!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-30-09 02:02 AM by Adsos Letter
you are absolutely keerect...I didn't catch it either. Hey, it's Vegas! :D
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 05:17 AM
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3. Maybe it were a ghost ship?
;)

Nice catch. Everything I know about Pirates I learned from Sid Meier.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 04:44 PM
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8. Yeah...
Turns out the ship the Spanish think might be involved was their frigate "Nuestra Senora de las Mercedes" which was sunk in 1802 when they still controlled Peru...the revolutions there ran thru the period 1810-20 and they declared independence in 1821...but the reporter instead of checking facts appearently went with "pirate gold"...
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 05:33 AM
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4. 17 tons of coins!
:wow:
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 05:40 AM
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5. Excavation of Bushipwreck site yields one coin.
:D


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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 05:45 AM
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6. Doesn't the law of sea basically state
Finders Keepers?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 09:19 AM
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7. Far from it - here's another case in the news
TIMOTHY MCDONALD: And once you've found the treasure, then you have to figure out how to keep it. Sub Sea Research says it's doing everything by the book and it hopes to keep up to 90 per cent of the treasure for itself.

But Forrest Booth says the original owners may have a claim on the ship.

FORREST BOOTH: If the location of the wreck is unknown or the depths of the water is so deep such that recovery was not possible until the newest technology came along, the courts have been receptive to the idea that there was not an abandonment.

Now the salvor will still get a reward for his efforts of bringing the cargo up but he doesn't get 100 per cent usually. Now if he can prove that it's been abandoned and that is a whole other story and then he may get 100 per cent.

TIMOTHY MCDONALD: If the ship was insured, that could add another layer of complexity because the original title then passes onto the insurer and in this particular case, governments are also involved.

It's claimed the treasure was en route from Europe to the US as payment for war materials. As Forrest Booth explains, it's extremely unlikely that a government would relinquish the treasure.

FORREST BOOTH: Well that adds another wrinkle because governments basically never lose title to their own property. There's been a lot of litigation about fighter planes from World War Two that have been discovered, I think one frozen in the ice in Greenland and various other, one was fished out of a lake near Seattle Washington.

And the Government always wins those cases, the US Government. And I believe the British Government as well has won some cases like that where they say that once it's their property, it's always their property.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2008/s2478396.htm
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