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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:16 AM
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Unfitting? Women Must Buy Lingerie From Men in Saudi Arabia
Ms. Asaad and her campaigners have now decided to sidestep both the government and the religious establishment, and put pressure directly on retailers. They are calling for a boycott of all lingerie stores that are staffed by men.


Saudi lingerie trade in a twist

It would be bizarre in any country to find that its lingerie shops are staffed entirely by men.

But in Saudi Arabia - an ultra-conservative nation where unmarried men and women cannot even be alone in a room together if they are not related - it is strange in the extreme.

Women, forced to negotiate their most intimate of purchases with male strangers, call the situation appalling and are demanding the system be changed.

"The way that underwear is being sold in Saudi Arabia is simply not acceptable to any population living anywhere in the modern world," says Reem Asaad, a finance lecturer at Dar al-Hikma Women's College in Jeddah, who is leading a campaign to get women working in lingerie shops rather than men.

"This is a sensitive part of women's bodies," adds Ms Asaad. "You need to have some discussions regarding size, colour and attractive choices and you definitely don't want to get into such a discussion with a stranger, let alone a male stranger. I mean this is something I wouldn't even talk to my friends about."

In theory, it should be easy enough to get women to staff lingerie shops, but parts of Saudi society are still very traditional and don't like the idea of women working - even if it's just to sell underwear to each other.

~snip~


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7908866.stm


Unfitting? Women Must Buy Lingerie From Men in Saudi Arabia

~snip~

Adding to the problem, the kingdom's religious police have banned fitting rooms in lingerie shops along with physical contact between unmarried men and women. Shoppers can't be properly measured and are forced to buy bras without trying them on. Most are too embarrassed to return what doesn't fit.

~snip~


http://www.citizensugar.com/2865977

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:17 AM
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1. "religious police "
There's the problem in a nutshell.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:19 AM
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3. Our good friends, the Saudis.
We invaded the wrong country on a pretense.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:25 AM
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6. Using that pretense would also have us invading Iran. Let's
face it, women as 2nd(or 3rd,4th,5th) class citizens isn't the curse of just one country.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:34 AM
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10. I think we could get the Persians to help on that one.
No love lost on the House of Saud by the bearded ones in Tehran.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:36 AM
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11. There may not be much love lost between the two,
but they seem to have similar attitudes about women.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 12:15 PM
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13. Sad that all religious fundamentalists, of any stripe, need to demean women.
Patriarchal stone-age nonsense disguised as a 'religion' is nothing more than codified misogyny.

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:19 AM
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2. how many saudi men wear panties under their robes? conservatives view more porn
in the US, how bout over there?

Msongs
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:20 AM
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4. Thanks for the visual.
Irk.


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:29 AM
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8. the report was posted 4 or 5 times about conservative watching porn. like our good ole du liberals
are so progressive on the subject and respectful. this is just ludicrous after being on du this long to listen to the holier than thou, porn advocates of du ridicule the conservative for their porn watching.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:21 AM
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5. unbelievable.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:20 PM
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14. Isn't it?
:shakinghead:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:25 AM
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7. Ms. Asaad is a smart women and will most likely be opening
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 11:31 AM by midnight
her own businesses with other women who will serve other women in these business. She is finding a nitch, and filling the need.

"The way that underwear is being sold in Saudi Arabia is simply not acceptable to any population living anywhere in the modern world," says Reem Asaad, a finance lecturer at Dar al-Hikma Women's College in Jeddah, who is leading a campaign to get women working in lingerie shops rather than men.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:33 AM
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9. If the religious police don't get to her first
brave woman to take on this issue, imo. I hope to hear she and her campaign succeed, unharmed.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:43 AM
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12. I can only guess "modern" is
a relative term. To most westerners SA seems stuck in a rather earlier century than the 21st.
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