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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:16 PM
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Its really the Limbaugh followers we have to examine
Forget about the pig thats bloviating; leave that to the psychoanalists;
its really the followers we have to examine. Typically uneducated and voting against their best interests time and again. "Yeah Rush".... they exort. These are people that don't read; and spend their days watching NASCAR and football. These are the neanderthals we need to reach. But how?
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:21 PM
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1. It might help to not stereotype and insult them
Why listen to someone when you can tell that they feel nothing but contempt for you and don't see you as an individual but rather as a stereotype?
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:27 PM
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3. Because Limpball followers
can't be swayed, they are stereotypes and I for one will denigrate, laugh at, mock and spew contempt at them from every corner. Dittoheads are scum of the Earth IMO and deserve nothing more.

Anybody that will do whatever a disgusting anal cyst draft dodging chickenhawk tells them to do without a single moral twinge telling them that's it's all bullshit makes me sick and I will not even try to engage them in conversation.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:37 PM
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7. Do you think they care what we think of them?
I read the "comments" section on CNN, etc. and to say that sterotyping and insulting are a one-way street (from progressives/libs) is false. Eash side made up it's mind (core "beliefs" if you will) a long time ago and neither pissing matches nor playing nancy-nice have changed anything.
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:25 PM
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2. We are pitted against each other constantly
There is no civilized debate - I don't think I blame the listeners because they have been terrorized.

I've read that Obama's plan has something in it to diversify the media? That's key IMO.

The debates opened a lot of people's eyes to what is possible from both sides and we need more of that to reach more people instead of the mostly one-sided information that is out there now.
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:29 PM
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4. I'm thinking of seeing if our library has a copy of
Lakoff's book, Moral Politics. Maybe it would help me understand all of this hate radio mantra and the folks that thrive on it.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:33 PM
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5. The only way is to demonstrate Success. Models and Blueprints can help
But nothing like SUCCESS will do the trick....

If this can be realized...then a chunk will HAVE to SEE maybe there is something to POSITIVE SOLUTIONS after all...

Some of which will capitulate from the NOPer Party and become Indies....a smaller fraction will switch even...
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:35 PM
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6. If you were to join me in posting on the MSM newspaper site I use to expose the
falacious thinking of the dittoheads you would see that Limbaugh listeners are woefully unprepared for public consumption.

They constantly make fools of themselves each in their own silly way, and giving them a rope usually does cause them to hang themselves.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:40 PM
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8. You're exactly right.
A large, gullible portion of the population is deadly to a democracy.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:40 PM
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9. Just keep the elitist attitude, that'll work fine.
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 01:41 PM
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10. A bit of the preface from Lakoff's book "Moral Politics"
The map of red states and blue states from the 2000 presidential election night showed more than a geographical split of the two coasts and Great Lakes region versus the heartland, more than a division of parties or of interests. It showed a division between two ways of understanding the world. In politics, this division is called conservative versus progressive (or liberal). The the political division runs much deeper than that. It is a moral division. It is about what you think makes a “good” person and what is the “right” thing to do. And it goes even deeper than that; it is ultimately a family-based division, about what you think the right kind of family is—whether your parents were good parents, whether you are a good parent to your children, and whether you were raised right. The political division is personal. It has to do with what kind of a person you are.

The conservative/liberal division is ultimately a division between strictness and nurturance as ideals at all levels—from the family to morality to religion and, ultimately, to politics. It is a division at the center of our democracy and our public lives, and yet there is no overt discussion of it in public discourse. The reason is that the details are largely unconscious, part of what cognitive scientists call the Cognitive Unconscious—a deep level of mind that we have no direct access to. Yet it is vitally important that we do so if Americans are to understand and come to grips with, the deepest fundamental division in our country, one that transcends and lies behind all the individual issues; the role of government, social programs, taxation, education, the environment, energy, gun control, abortion, the death penalty, and so on. These are ultimately not different issues, but manifestations of a single issue; strictness versus nurturance.
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