Sweden vs Americans fun facts they live longer and make more money

[Botany]

Lifespan for Women

Sweden at 80.79. American women placed at 79.10 years.

Lifespan For men

Sweden at 75.35, U.S. males were at 72.2

Income

Sweden

# 9 55,624 7 48,584 11 56,703

United States

# 17 47,025 10 45,790 17 47,165

[FreakinDJ]

1. But but but..... itsa a socialist country - Socialized Medicine and every thing

Blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaww blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw blaw

- I can't hear you

[Botany]

2. I had a friend whose from Norway and in Columbus, OH

And some people used to ask him (1990s) if they had phones in his country and
weren't they all socialists there ..... (his uncle owned the company that made the
oil platforms for work in the north sea)

[FreakinDJ]

4. Appearently my feable attempt at a joke.....

I don't consider Switserland, Norway, or Denmark to be "Socialist" at all, that is the first word that comes out of Freep-Tard's mouths the minute you compare their health system with ours.

Fact is WE ARE BEING TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS by greedy Healthcare corporations.

and NO America does not have the No 1 Healthcare System in the World (just look at all the countries where they live longer) just the MOST EXPENSIVE

[Botany]

7. I knew it was a joke

n/t

BTW 32 cents of every dollar we spend on health care in the u.s. goes to HMOs, insurance, and paperwork

[joeybee12]

3. But, but, but...they NATIONALIZED their banks!

Good for them! We better do it to ours pretty freaking soon.

[FreakinDJ]

10. And now economist predict EU going to kick America's Ass

And now economist predict EU going to kick America's Ass Economically and recover much soon and stronger then the USA

But but but..... it's Socialism

WRONG... It's survival in a Post Regeanomics / Trickle Down Bull Shit Theory World.

And America is strapped with a Huge Anchor around our collective necks called "The RATpubliCON Talking Heads all advocating for Obama to fail"

[joeybee12]

17. Reaganomics is simply a word...it was tried in 1981, helped lead to the 82

Recession, which in turn gave it an early grave...all these nutjobs who point to it as the saving glory don't seem to realize it never really existed...was tried for a brief span of time and then abandoned.

[TheBigotBasher]

5. Americans work longer for less pay

than they did in the 80s. The "average" pay of Americans is very heavily skewed by its billionaires. Europeans have a higher standard of living and most Countries (except for the UK who has followed US policy so closely it should be another State), will come out of the recession quicker.

Their business do not have to suffer from the costs of their Government not picking up the cost of universal healthcare.

[ClarkUSA]

6. Sweden has only 9M residents & possesses a 60% top personal tax rate, though.

Their population is more or less the same as New York City's while it's crushing tax burden is not a big draw for immigrants,
despite its cradle-to-grave welfare state benefits. The United States has 300M people by contrast. Sweden also has a 32.42%
payroll tax versus our 15%. Together, you can understand why they make a little more... they need it!

[Botany]

8. but what about the fjords?

[joeybee12]

9. They don't drive fjords...they drive Volvos...

...no wonder we have to bail out the Big 3 here...no overseas market.

[ClarkUSA]

12. Yuk, yuk... lol

:D

[joeybee12]

16. Thanks...I thought it was funny, too...

and surprised I was the first to make that comment.

[ClarkUSA]

19. Hey, when you got it, you got it... DU needs a sense of humor.

Maybe in another life you were a Borscht Belt star? :7

[joeybee12]

21. Ah, the Catskills...God's Heaven on Earth! n/t

[ClarkUSA]

13. Gorgeous... except that the country was in direct line of fallout from Chernobyl.

The land is poisoned for agriculture production for decades. It's a damned shame.

[kestrel91316]

11. My sister has friends in Sweden. They have a nice home in Stockholm,

a weekend home on one of the islands north of the city, and he is some sort of metallurgist/engineer/inventor with tons of patents. Makes LOTS of money. Loves Sweden, never has any intention of leaving. Happily pays his high taxes. Feels sorry for Americans.

[ClarkUSA]

14. They sound very fortunate. And it is true that Swedes don't mind paying high taxes.

The same is not true of most nations outside of Scandanavia, however.

[Tartiflette]

15. And why is that?

Because there is a relentless barrage of anti-tax propaganda thrown at you every single day, with very very little information on what good is done with the taxes that have been collected. Further, whne people are asked (in a non-leading way) "would you be prepared to pay higher taxes to receive x benefit?", they usually answer in the affirmative.

[ClarkUSA]

18. I wouldn't want to pay 60% taxes and I'm a liberal/progressive Democrat who's not in the top 2%.

Not having grown up in a cradle-to-grave welfare state, I guess I'm happier having more money to spend the way I want.
Also, Sweden is not known for having the best universities or doctors or entrepreneurs in the world, whereas the United
States has plenty of worthy candidates in those categories. To some extent, I believe that such an extensive socialist
welfare system is stifling to personal initiative. I have close friends in Britain and Canada who hate paying high taxes,
despite the national health system in both countries and other socialist benefits.

This is all academic, anyway. The American economic engine needs fixing, no doubt. But adopting the Swedish model ain't
gonna happen. It's not politically feasible and I'm not sure it's at all necessary. I'd rather President Obama find an American
solution to our problems instead of measuring our success against a tiny socialist EU country whigh possesses a small
fraction of our GDP.

[SoCalDem]

20. Unfortunately the "american solutions" always tend to be quick-fixes

that nibble at the edges of the problems, and allow for even MORE loopholes, so that at the end of whatever president's, in charge during the changes, the OTHER side comes along and tries to re-invent the whole thing, or dump it altogether..

We lumber along, decade after decade, taking 1 step forward, and then two steps back..wait a few years, and start all over again...and we wonder why we have the problems we have

[ClarkUSA]

22. Team O has a chance to do something really different and lasting now, as FDR did with The New Deal.

[burythehatchet]

23. I consider myself as much of a Socialist as anyone but this comparison is bogus

because Sweden is a relatively homogeneous society. Collectivism is socially ore acceptable when the recipients of collective benefits are of the same ethnic origin.