Newt to be confirmed a Catholic

[Are_grits_groceries]

According to NYT Magazine,a Baptist since graduate school, Gingrich said he will soon convert to Catholicism, his wife’s faith.

No one has come forward to answer my question on Gingrich and his future relationship with the church over his three prior marriages. As I said before if he hasn't been baptised it's one thing, but if he previously has... this is a huge stumbling block.

http://leonardosnotebook.blogspot.com/2009/03/newt-gingrich-to-be-confirmed.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/magazine/01republicans-t.html?_r=2&ref=magazine&pagewanted=all

This was news to me. I had to scour the article to find where it said something about his religion. It's there. In one tiny phrase.

[SpiralHawk]

1. The Pope won't like it if Newtie dumps wife #3

the way he dumped wife #1 (while she was in the hospital), or wife #2 to get it on with his hot, young secretary (current wife #3).

But then again, wide-stance, diaper-clad, 'elite' Republicon Family Values are incomprehensible for normal Americans.

This veritable 'Mountain of Republicon Morality' changed his name from Newton Leroy McPherson to Newt Gingrich. One has to wonder, maybe he was not even born in America? Has anyone ever seen a VAULT original of his so-called Birth Certificate?

Photo: Newt as a Born-Again Baptist, or as a Unitarian, or wait, is it him in his incarnation as a Reformed Jew? Republicons really got a lock on the Integrity Thingy.

[ShortnFiery]

3. Hey if "the Pope" can reverse the ex-communication of an OVERT "anti-semite,

then THIS Pope is not one of "the good ones."

Think back to "The Spanish Inquisition." :wow:

[mmonk]

18. The priest in question has been denied.

[mmonk]

19. Now he can join Dennis Kucinich, Kathleen Sebelius and Ted Kennedy.

Catholics are all alike you know.

[ShortnFiery]

2. Oh no, I bet Newt has an OPUS DEI

:grr: :thumbsdown:

http://www.odan.org/

Ascetism, anticommunism, a rigid hierarchicalism, religious militancy and secrecy have become the distinguishing marks of the organization. (3) Opus Dei has followed a deliberate policy of keeping its membership, hierarchy, rituals and rules hidden. (3) In an interview for the Catholic diosesan newspaper, the Brooklyn Tablet, Fr. Angel de la Parte Paris observed that Opus Dei professes a fundamentalist theology, condemns Liberation Theology, has no concern for social problems, leaves little freedom to an individual's conscience, and is associated with secular power structures. (5)

Opus Dei has a hierarchical organization. Numeraries--a select group of people who belong to the middle or upper classes-- hold a university degree, must be unmarried, and must pledge vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience. Below the numeraries are the associates, who have the same obligations as the numeraries, but come from the working class. A final category consists of "co-operators," or sympathizers, who can be Catholics or non-Catholic. This class division is rigorously enforced. (3)

To join Opus Dei, according to Msgr. Alvaro del Portillo, it is necessary that "each person must have received from God the specific vocation to dedicate himself (herself) to the specific aims of Opus Dei, and must meet the requirements necessary to undertake responsibly the commitments involved in that dedication."(4) Membership with Opus Dei requires a contract which spells out the rights and the obligations which the members assume. (1)

The group has received criticism for being connected to powerful institutions and for entering the field of education for the middle and upper classes. (2) Critic John Roche, a professor at Oxford University, has said,"I am convinced is a sect, a cult, a malignant growth upon the body of the church."(2)

[Are_grits_groceries]

4. Oy! I never thought about that.It's a good possibility. nt

[ShortnFiery]

5. It creeps me out and I half way don my tin foil hat, but recall that good ole Tony Blair

has recently CONVERTED? :wtf:

One must pause and wonder: WHAT IS IT?!? :shrug:

If either Cheney or Bush convert to Catholicism, I'm going to go "full bore FREAK-OUT."

[ThomWV]

8. It has long been my opinion that the anti Opus Die folks were utterly insane

I say that because anyone who bothers to take the time to inspect the 'organization', what it does, who belongs, and most importantly how, if at all, the members are controlled from the top or conspire from within soon sees that they are less the demon force that is claimed than the Girl Scouts of America.

So when I see someone condem a person who considers themselves in accord with Opus Die about all I can think is they must get their information from The History Channel.

On Edit: I also sort of see the anti Opus Die folks as mostly a holdover from "the good old days" of the Klu Klux Klan to be quite honest about it.

[ShortnFiery]

12. Sure, and all these little dots and connections don't mean a thing.

Right. Just go shopping or watch M$M?

Blair, his 'sexy' Catholic aide... and their new Yale HQ near her Opus Dei father's office

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1104750/Blair-sexy-Catholic-aide--new-Yale-HQ-near-Opus-Dei-fathers-office.html

Tony Blair is setting up an American office for his religious charity in a move that sheds new light on his close links with Ruth Turner, his controversial former Downing Street aide.

Ms Turner, 38, who was at the heart of the cash-for-honours inquiry in 2006 and 2007, was chosen by the former Prime Minister last spring to run his new Tony Blair Faith Foundation.

It has become a highly lucrative vehicle for the ex-premier, concentrating its activities at America’s Yale University, where Mr Blair teaches a course on ‘faith and globalisation’ – and where Ms Turner’s British-born father, Denys, is a theology professor.

Yale, which is one of America’s top three universities, has paid the foundation more than £127,000 since it appointed Mr Blair as its Howland Distinguished Fellow.

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The Knights of Malta are important.

They are a Vatican order.

Reportedly they are linked to freemasonry (Cached/Knights of Malta and 911).

Reportedly, the following have been members:

David Rockefeller
Reinhard Gehlen (Nazi)
Heinrich Himmler
Franz von Papen (Hitler enabler)
Fritz Thyssen (Hitler’s financier)

George W. Bush
George Tenet (CIA chief at the time of 9 11)
Henry Kissinger
Michael Chertoff

[ThomWV]

13. You are out of your mind. There is serious stuff to be concerned about ...

and you waste your time with this bullshit.

[Canuckistanian]

9. That was my first thought

Newt LOVES to join clubs that have secret handshakes.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

23. That was my first thought., too!

It seems many of the right-wing DC elite are heading that way. :(

[leftchick]

6. um. I don't think he can

not with being divorced, uh not once, but several times. I would think the bishop would not allow it.

[ShortnFiery]

11. As long a Newt agrees to "intimidate teenage girls" from getting abortions, "The Bishops" will

welcome his smarmy ass with open arms.

TODAY, the Catholic Hierarchy is all about "the no-brainier" - "EASY" moral choices.

The more babies we have, the more SOLDIERS will be available to FIGHT the righteous wars for power to the FEW. :nuke:

[Donnachaidh]

14. the divorces were done before he became Catholic - they wouldn't have to recognize them

And that's how he'd get around it.

The Catholic Church is quite open about this. Any marriage performed outside a Catholic Church doesn't *exist*. Never happened. His shameful past is basically wiped clean, as far as they are concerned.

It sucks, but that's the way it is.

[leftchick]

21. I am not sure

I guess it depends where you live and the priest and or bishop in question. I could not get married in the church because my protestant husband did not have an annulment.

[Donnachaidh]

22. the key on that decision is that you wanted a church wedding

That's why they gave you grief. My father couldn't have a church wedding with my stepmother until my mother passed away. They too didn't have an annulment. The church didn't recognize the civil divorce.

[cherish44]

17. If you have the money to buy an annulment, the Church will give you one.

That's basically what I was told when I was going through my divorce.

[Orsino]

7. Guess he's had all the divorces he wants. n/t

[Joanne98]

10. There are a few conservatives that have converted to Catholicism.

I wonder what they're really doing?

[Donnachaidh]

16. you know it's a play for power

He's looking to de-link himself with the fundie base he used to get to power in the first place. Instead, he'll try to use the Catholics to do the same thing. He's such a cretin.

[Donnachaidh]

15. I don't think that will sit well with his fundie buddies in Georgia

I'm going to have to see if I can find out if he's attending the Catholic Church in my area.

[madamesilverspurs]

20. Newt with a moral compass -

cue the "Hahahaha Chorus."