The War on Poverty or the New Deal - which legislation have the Pukes lied about more?

[blueclown]

I would have to say The War on Poverty, or more in general, the Great Society. It's just amazing the revisionist history that the Pukes spout when they talk about LBJ's programs for the poor. The War on Poverty was extremely successful in the first few years it was enacted. It was only until Nixon and Ray Gun started budget cuts on these programs did we start seeing diminishing returns.

The New Deal is a close second, but even the Pukes can't lie about Social Security and its effectiveness. They have tried to lie about other facets of the New Deal, however.

[damntexdem]

1. Clearly the New Deal.

They've been at it longer. And they've made most people forget the War on Poverty, but they themselves constantly bring up the New Deal.

[Captain Hilts]

4. They also don't point out that for most New Deal projects you had to work for your money.

[blueclown]

5. I'm not so sure.

Yes, there were some fringe lunatics that called the New Deal a failure back in the 50s and 60s. But it wasn't until the late 70s and the early 80s with the rise of Reagan that an intellectual industry to discredit the New Deal made its way into "popular thought".

The War on Poverty, on the other hand? It has been attacked from its inception in 1964.

[Buck Laser]

8. I think "new deal failure" has been a mantra for a very long time...

I know I've heard it just about all my life. And I hear conservatives say there's a "consensus" among historians that the New Deal was a failure, that it prolonged the depression, introduced socialism and social diseases to America, and so on.

At the samy time, I see wingers occasionally say that the War on Poverty "wasted 7 trillion dollars." I would really like to know the origin of that figure, because I'm absolutely SURE it bears no relation to reality. Anybody know where it came from?

For what it's worth, I was a "soldier" in the war on poverty: I worked for the US Office of Economic Opportunity from 1967 until 1973, helping to fund and evaluate Community Action programs in most of the major cities in the southwest.

[blueclown]

9. I would really like to know where they got their figures on the cost of the WOP too.

Like usual, they are probably lying.

[zeemike]

2. holy hell what a question

there have been so many lies that you may need a math major or statistician to answer that one.

[kentuck]

3. It took the Repubs 75 years to conclude that the New Deal didn't work.

Isn't that amazing?

[blueclown]

6. Actually, it took around 40 years for a Repuke consensus to form.

It was around the time of Reagan when a consensus began to form in the Puke Party that the New Deal was a failure.

Up until then, only the far right fascist radicals thought that the New Deal was a failure.

[blueclown]

7. kick

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