March on Washingon anyone?

[republicansarewhores]

Remember the million member protests that took place all throughout the Bush presidency? Now our man is in the White House, and we're proud and supportive of him, but what's to say we still don't have the right to form mass, peaceful protests reminding him of the mandate we all wanted? Stuff like Bush Administration accountability, investigations and convictions, single payer health care... why would it be out of line organizing demonstrations that proclaimed "Mr. President, we are behind you, but are you hearing us on these issues we believed you would champion on behalf of the majority that elected you?"

And "he's too busy focusing on the economy" is not an excuse... his administration has GOT to stop taking the passive route on this other stuff we hoped for because he's "looking ahead" and not backwards.

I believe that there's a way to do this that expresses support of his presidency while reminding him of the things we expected from our mandate to get media attention and HIS attention.

Thoughts?

RAW

[sandnsea]

1. Why don't you create a majority

That wants all those things and start getting some people elected so we can push the Republicans out.

[republicansarewhores]

2. See...

I thought we had but they're not listening on these other important matters.

RAW

[sandnsea]

8. Then you weren't listening

last year. Obama didn't run on any of the stuff in your OP.

However, this is a once in a lifetime chance to build the Green Party into the second of the two major parties. Obama is doing all he can to push the right off the cliff. He can't do everything. The left needs to get organized into a national party with broad appeal, fast.

[Ken Burch]

3. You're assuming those ideas DON'T have majority support

Truth is, many if not all of them do.
Even Our President, good man though he is, is to the right of the American people.

Our job is to show him he doesn't need to be.

It can only help him for us to get him to accept that.

Accepting the "it's still a center-right country" meme only helps Republicans. We need to have the guts to reject that and embrace the majority.

There's nothing to lose.

[sandnsea]

7. Then get people elected on those ideas

And get to it before the Republicans rebuild.

I'm quite serious.

[Two Americas]

10. there already is

"All of those things" was 3 things I think, in the OP and those - and hundreds of other left wing positions - already have majority support. And that despite relentless right wing propaganda dominating the media, and a fifth column within the Democratic party continually sabotaging the left and pushing the party to the right.

The challenge is not quite so simple as "pushing Republicans out" or "getting some people elected."

[sandnsea]

12. Green Party

It's time for an organized, mature, Green Party. Let the Democrats go where they will. Let the two parties be Liberal/Green and Democrat. Help Obama push the Republicans into irrelevance, like he is doing with Rush Limbaugh right now. It's time and the window is small.

[bananas]

4. NASA Employees Can Now Invoke The Hansen Precedent

http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2009/02/nasa_employees_1.html

edit to add: some more context
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x188535

[FrenchieCat]

5. Can you name me some of these million people march on Washington

where a million people showed up during Bush's 8 years?

I don't recall. :shrug:

[Hekate]

11. Me. I was there for the March for Women's Lives & we got a million+ on the Mall.

I was also there for the one just after the Drowning of New Orleans, but I don't remember how many were (under)reported. There was one other I went to as well...

The thing with the March for Women's Lives is that it was superbly well-organized, and the organizers took names and tallied the participants, so we didn't have to take the WaPo's word for it.

However, Frenchie, you know me well enough to know that I have no plans to march against Obama. He's not the one who shredded our Constitution and Bill of Rights nor is he the one who got us into the war and destroyed our economy. I am satisfied at the way events are unfolding from the White House and at strategies that are being revealed day by day.

Hekate


twice-edited for clarity

[FrenchieCat]

13. Was that during Bush's tenure?

I thought it was in 1997.

[Hekate]

14. I went to the one in 2004 with my just-pregnant daughter, and met up with my sis...

... and her daughter, and my best friend from college. It was a terrific experience.

Just edited my earlier post for clarity.

Hekate

[republicansarewhores]

15. Who said...

This was a march AGAINST Obama?

It's a march to get his and the media's attention that people are not willing to accept more of this center mentality.

And yes, there were many protests of millions plus people that the media buried, especially the anti-war ones.

RAW

[Hekate]

16. You know very well that's how all the noise and yelling would be interpreted...

... And speeches. Wow. Imagine the field day the ANSWER Coalition would have once they got the microphone. :eyes:

There's a lot of individuals and groups that still detest Obama for having gotten the nomination in the first place, and they still have abundant axes to grind -- as you well know from hanging out at DU -- I won't even mention some of the issues involved, because it would just start another flame war. They'll show up too.

I know the drill: I've been to lots of marches.

Or are you imagining a silent vigil with the respectful handing-in of boxes of signed petitions?

Hekate

[Raine]

6. No thanks

the talking heads would talk that up like we had turned against Obama ... who hasn't even been in for two months yet!

[woodwrite]

9. Umm,... not so sure

Bush assumed that merely being elected automatically meant that his way of thinking was automatically endorsed by the electorate.... thus enabling him to become a bait-and-switch executive. If the majority of people want Bush/Cheney prosecutions,... single-payer universal health care and an end to rewarding the Wall St crooks who destroyed the economy,... and the government fails to deliver those things,.. then something is still very wrong.

[JBoris]

17. You do realize that it takes TIME to build a case...

especially against someone who can surround himself with the slimiest lawyers that hell has to offer. There needs to be a case against bush and his cronies that is so strong, that no amount of "bad memories" or shredded documents can instill even a shred of doubt about his guilt.

Even worse than not prosecuting him would be a failed attempt. We HAVE TO take out time and get this right. It will not happen over night.

Make no mistake, those nine memos released by the DOJ were just beginning, we will be uncovering the bush regime's questionable actions and crimes for DECADES!

[Fire1]

18. Not on your life. Frankly, there's no reason.

This is the first administration in history that has even made an attempt at transparency. Our President has made every conceivable effort to make himself accessible to the people via an extensive website. Just because things are not accomplished expeditiously doesn't mean we are ignored.

Too, grassroot community efforts are still in place nation wide within the Democratic party to expound on his first term agenda and has encouraged all congress people to do the same to remain 'connected' to their constituents and keep them abreast of all things pertaining to that agenda.