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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:03 PM
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As if the Darfur Genocide weren't horrific enough, Sudan's fuckhead president
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 01:04 PM by cali
is expelling virtually all the aid organizations keeping over a million Darfurians alive- in response to his being indicted by the ICC.

Sickening. Maddening.

UN: `irrevocable damage' from Darfur expulsions
16 minutes ago

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon says Sudan's expulsion of 13 aid organizations will cause "irrevocable damage" to humanitarian operations in Darfur and is urging the government to reconsider.

Ban's spokeswoman tells reporters Thursday that the operations of the agencies "are key to maintaining a lifeline to 4.7 million Sudanese people who receive aid in Darfur."

U.N. spokeswoman Michele Montas says Ban is also concerned about the safety and security of the workers.

The International Criminal Court decided to issue an arrest warrant for Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

U.N. officials said Sudan ordered the expulsion of 10 of the largest non-governmental organizations on Wednesday and three more Thursday.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hxBFw9CRhkuL6jZjeJnkA9eo3i0gD96O0T900
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:04 PM
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1. He is evil. I wish that they really would get him to the Hague.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:05 PM
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2. What the hell?
:cry:
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:07 PM
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3. This is why these problems will always be the same.
We contribute millions in aid when a well aimed bullet would work much better.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:11 PM
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5. I think if you checked that, you'd find that we contribute far more bullets than aid.
One of the reasons that he's kicking these folks out is that humanitarian orgs have been used for cover for agents of other states pretty much as long as there have been humanitarian orgs.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:16 PM
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6. oh fucking please. An apologist for al-Bashir? Great just what DU needs
I certainly don't subscribe to a policy of assassination, but rationalizing this as within the realm of the reasonable? Sickening. He's a genocidal asshole who's in a pique over having been indicted in the ICC. That's why he's kicking out UN organizations and other NGOs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 03:12 PM
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12. If you're paranoid, you get rid of the strangers. And thanks
for your usual high level of comprehension and civility.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:20 PM
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7. One bullet.
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:09 PM
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4. This has been a tradition in the Sudan since the invasion by Egypt in 1820
Dafur was the primary source for slave labor for Muhammad's cotton factories. Unfortunately due to poor working conditions most slaves only lasted a few years and had to be replenished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sudan_(1821-1885)
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:36 PM
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8. What did people expect?
Every act has consequences, but not all of them have positive effects. This is one of them. I challenge anyone here to explain how this indictment will help bring about the fall of the Sudanese government. Will it encourage countries to stop trading with Sudan? Not likely. Will it give the neighboring states an excuse to invade and take out the Sudanese government? It might, except that those countries don't want to do that. News flash. The world court has no power. While the internationalists are patting themselves on the back, the situation in Sudan just got worse Great job guys. The world is far too dangerous to continue to have the blind faith in international organizations that some people have. The ordinary Sudanese are paying for that idiocy today.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:44 PM
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9. I'll take that challenge.
First of all, it might encourage an overthrow of al-Bashir. Secondly, yes, it probably will encourage countries to stop trading with Sudan and it may lead to sanctions. The ICC does indeed have power. If it didn't there would have been no persons in its custody and no trials- and one is going on right now. It's a relatively new entity but it is not wholly toothless. And your post is really ludicrous. Things in Darfur have been horrendous not due to international involvement, but in good part because of international disinterest. You have things exactly backward.
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aranthus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:51 PM
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10. I hope you're right.
I agree that Sudan has been a disaster because of international disinterest. Maybe this will change things, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:52 PM
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11. maybe it will change things. Maybe it won't.
One thing I think is likely is that al-Bashir ends up in the dock- if he doesn't meet his demise first.
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