New Star Trek trailer is out...Wow!!!!

[Bill219]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xaCB2nLS0

This one has got me excited to see this movie again after the so so Super Bowl version

[ixion]

1. sweet

looks awesome. can't wait to see it!

[HowHasItComeToThis]

45. HUG ME, I AM REC FIVE

[Strelnikov_]

2. The concept is interesting and has promise

Going dark/edgy like the Batman and Battlestar franchises.

Whether they execute or fall into the trap of the Hollywood robo-script (Independence Day) or incoherence due to lack of direction (last few seasons of Battlestar) is yet to be seen.

[mike_c]

3. OK, that got my attention....

Wow!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. I'm not even a fan of Star Trek, and I'm now geeked up about seeing it.

Holy hell that looks good.

[InvisibleTouch]

5. Wow is right!!

Looks like it's going to be excellent. Can't wait! :)

[MattBaggins]

6. ST:90210

All those movies Nimoy snubbed his nose at and he chooses this one to cameo for?

Blech

[ddeclue]

39. This looks terrible but I guess I'll go see it...

It seems to really violate/ignore all the established history and mythology of the previous 5 series and 10 movies and just make up its own storyline and "rules".

If you are going do a sequel or a prequel you need to work within a framework, not trash 90% of it and re-do it.

The main draw for me will be that it will have Winona Ryder in it.

I hope I'm wrong. Brannon and Braga don't seem to have any role in ST-XI.

I suspect this will be like the remake of Planet of the Apes or like the stinky "second trilogy" of Star Wars that should never have been made because it was so much worse than the original Star Wars trilogy.

:)

[LanternWaste]

65. On one hand, ST: 90210-- on the other hand, JJ Abrams...

On one hand, ST: 90210-- on the other hand, JJ Abrams...


Could there finally be an above 'merely adequate' film in the franchise? I maintain low expectations, but my hopes are slowly rising.

[originalpckelly]

74. I know, it is absolutely horrible! New Enterprise will travel at Warp 9.0210...

[ddeclue]

75. DUZY Award Alert!

:rofl:

[yourout]

7. Wow.......

That is a must see for me.

[GregD]

8. Here is another trailer for the same movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrdEe95Hs0&feature=related

This is going to rock. Sign me up!

[Marr]

9. Ok, now I'm going to see that.

I wasn't sure before, but that looked awesome. Looks like they explain why such a young guy is a ship's captain. Pretty cool.

[niceypoo]

10. Epic

...as always from Star Trek films!

[Subdivisions]

11. Beam me up, Scotty! n/t

[Orsino]

12. I can't wait to find out...

...whether this villain will quote Shakespeare or Milton before being blowed up. :eyes:

But as far as formulaic Trek goes, this looks very pretty (edit: and well-acted, maybe). Urban even looks a little like McCoy, which is much more than I can say for any of the rest of the cast.

[Occam Bandage]

13. This isn't formulaic Trek at all.

Formulaic Hollywood, sure. But this seems, so far, to be a standard Michael-Bay-esque action flick with Star Trek characters, rather than being a Star Trek movie.

Which I am all for, since Star Trek movies proper are terrible exercises in fan-wankery.

[Orsino]

18. Yes, something different would be most welcome.

Instead, this looks to be repetition with poor excuses for look-alikes. The story and acting had better be damned compelling to justify what seems to be, under the hood, the very definition of fan-wankery.

But that's all it would take to make me happy. If you're gonna recycle iconic characters, bring something great to the table. It's not fair for me to judge the movie based on a couple of trailers, but as yet I'm not seeing anything I couldn't get from any other Trek trailer.

I want to believe that this will finally be the movie that eschews sucky-cutesy in favor of awesome. I know nothing about Lost other than that Abrams is respected, but that gives me some hope.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

50. Oh, it's better than Shakespeare and Milton.

"Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence."

-the new Dr. McCoy.


:spray:

[havocmom]

14. Damn, I may have to drive into town and see this one!

Three hour drive. One way. But WHOOT! Looks like a kick!

[havocmom]

17. YouTube funny as hell about the movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTvID7jS8oI&feature=related

OMG! With beagles!

[tigereye]

15. I dunno. Looks a bit heavy on the explosions and machismo...

Yeah, asking a Vulcan if he's afraid (in the other trailer) seems a bit OTT.



We'll see.

[Lost in CT]

16. That looks very very good... getting my geek on as we speak. nt

[Greyskye]

19. Will this be the movie to end the curse of the odd numbered ST films?

Looks like a possibility...

[mainer]

20. What's the backstory on this plot? Is that supposed to be young Kirk?

Or Kirk's son?

And my gosh, that Vulcan really does look like a young Nimoy.

[Bill219]

23. Young Kirk

[tridim]

46. It's pretty funny that the ship's technology apparently decreases as they get older.

:)

[Qutzupalotl]

49. ...and the uniforms go all retro.

[ddeclue]

59. As far thinking as Roddenberry and the set designers were in the 1960's

we've so far outstripped so much of the controls and displays technology that they used that the set looks like a museum not a technology show piece.

The main things that still seem up to date about ST:TOS are:

The big honking plasma TV in the front of the room (although a forward projection system would be bettter)

Uhuru's bluetooth earpiece.

Spock's SD data chips

Voice recognition system for the computer.

Beyond that the flashing lights and mechanical gauges are just silly looking now and it is distracting from the episode.

They redid the exterior graphis for ST:TOS recently for use on TV and I think that was a worthwhile improvement over the 1960's special effects.

[Sequoia]

24. Yes, it's about them a young men, teenagers.

There is a book about that time in their lives and it was written by ole Willie himself.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41709vGTr6L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg


Young Jim Kirk wants nothing to do with Starfleet, andnever wants to leave Earth. In the summer of 2249, he's a headstrong seventeen-year-old barely scraping by in San Francisco, haunted by horrific memories from his past.

In the same city, a nineteen-year-old alien named Spock is determined to rise above the emotional turmoil of his mixed-species heritage. He's determined to show his parents he has what it takes to be Vulcan -- even if it means exposing a mysterious conspiracy at the heart of the Vulcan Embassy, stretching to the farthest reaches of the Federation's borders. There, a chilling new threat hasarisen to test the Federation's deepest held belief that war is a thing of the past and that a secure future can be forged through peaceful means alone. But it is in San Francisco, home to Starfleet Academy, where that threat will be met by two troubled teenage boys driven to solve the mystery that links them both.

In time, the universe will come to know these young rebels as Captain James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock...two of the Federation's greatest heroes. Yet before they were heroes, they were simply conflicted teenagers, filled with raw ambition and talent, not yet seasoned by wisdom and experience, searching for their own unique directions in life -- a destiny they'll discover on one fateful night in San Francisco, when two lives collide, and two legends are born.


amazon.com

[mainer]

26. Oh, cool!!! I can't wait to see this.

I stopped watching those Star Trek movies after a few of them were so bad.

[Sequoia]

42. I still like the orginial series.

Sadly, the stations in my area don't have it on it seems.

[mainer]

52. I confess. I've been a Star Trek convention attendee.

I even went in costume (urk!) but then I was only in my 20's. I'm afraid I never did get into the Next Generation or any of the later iterations. For me, the show's appeal was always the friendship between that original core group of bridge officers.

[johnfunk]

77. In effect the missing prequel to season one of ST:TOS

Young Jim Kirk, an angry and self-destructive Bush 43 type, is convinced to enlist in Starfleet's OCS by no less a figure than Enterprise commanding officer Christopher Pike.

[Richard D]

21. It's been years since I went to a movie theater . . .

. . .but for this I'll make an exception.

[Sequoia]

22. I can't wait.

I want Star Trek stuff.

[Le Taz Hot]

25. Is this supposed to be young versions

of Kirk and Spock? I'm confused.

[Deja Q]

32. Prequel... like what Paramount wanted to dio in 1990 but was thankfully vetoed.

I don't know why they want to do it now either. Can't the Voyager cast be bothered? Patrick Stewart is definitely out as Picard (he's said so). Robbing characters from the cradled grave and retconning them just doesn't work.

I'll give it a chance when it hits the dollar theaters.

[Raineyb]

86. They couldn't find the DS9 crew either?

I didn't care for Voyager myself but I'm sure they could come up with something to do with the wormhole, the Delta Quadrant and the space station. Sheesh.

Not to mention that considering the life cycle of Vulcans it doesn't ring true to me for the two to be friends as teenagers. That is to say that having Spock and Kirk as contemporaries at that age seems wrong.

That said, I'll probably see the movie. I still have free movie tickets in my possession.

Regards

[NeedleCast]

27. Micheal Bay, this is the guy who did Transformers, right?

They have a very similar look.

I'm looking forward to it.

[ddeclue]

84. OMG... I hope this isn't a Michael Bay film...

the same guy who gave us that stinker "Pearl Harbor"?

[Touchdown]

89. It isn't. It's JJ Abrams' Film.

He's the creator and exec producer of LOST. So you know there will be a cliffhanger.;)

[maxsolomon]

28. yeah, i'll probably see that

i expected to see hayden christensen as Kirk, so i'm pleasantly surprised that some other callow lightweight is cast.

[Deja Q]

29. They all look like teenagers. "Star Trek Babies"?

None of the trailer's iterations does anything for me.

More big f/x with tons of spaceships in the air. Looks more like another wham-bam flick, with trademarked Trek characters in the forefront.

I can't get the image of Robocop(tm) chasing after Kirk(tm) in the petrol powered convertible he stole either.

The franchise is dead, Jim.

[ThomWV]

31. Just what you'd expect from an extravaganza aimed at the 12-year-old mind

[Phoonzang]

67. Oh by the way they're remaking Robocop too.

*smile*

[ThomWV]

30. Dear sweet Jesus ...

is this what we've come to?

[SpiralHawk]

35. "Smirk." - Ferengi Republicons

[damonm]

33. WARP SPEED to may 8th, baby!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. Holy shit, that looks terrible.

Just awful.

[sampsonblk]

36. I object to any portrayal of Spock as emotional

A young Spock can't be the action hero type. He didn't understand human emotions because he hadn't experienced. That's what made Spock special.

I will definitely go see this film though. Looks good.

[DavidDvorkin]

37. He started out as emotional

The emotionless stuff was added later. A lot of the mythos was created on the fly, including that.

[johnfunk]

81. In the original ST pilot (The Cage), Spock actually smiled

meanwhile, at the used record store, lookit this!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TnAcMqiBxug/Rka7f5F4mCI/AAAAAAAAACQ/3V2Pm9kJU7k/s200/mr+spock+cover.jpg

[Lorien]

91. I think that his mother was human

so he did have the ability to feel emotions.

[hootinholler]

38. I'll have to look later, teh tube be blocked at werk. n/t

[Ilsa]

40. Here's the site for the movie with that trailer:

http://www.startrekmovie.com/

[ddeclue]

41. The preview strikes me as military recruiting propaganda NOT as Star Trek.

It has that "Starship Troopers" feel of being a military recruiting propaganda piece disguised as science fiction. I wonder if Gene Roddenberry would approve of this - he was decidedly a pacifist after his WWII experiences.

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

[Bolo Boffin]

43. Wow, did you miss the point of "Starship Troopers."

180 degrees. I mean, Neil Patrick Harris in a Nazi-esque uniform was too subtly drawn for you? Wow.

[ddeclue]

44. It came across as Neo-con propaganda to me..

are you saying it wasn't?

[cascadiance]

47. If you wanted it to be more obvious like Starship Troopers 3, then sorry...

... but I liked how the first one was done better. For many of us, the third sequel parallels to the Bush regime was too obvious that it was over the top and the ending seemed to be more serving of neocon fantasies than anything the first did. Though perhaps the irony escapes some people and fuels their neocon fantasies, but I still don't like to have an attempt to lecture me about the wrongs of neocon philosophy be more obvious.

[ddeclue]

57. I usually have a fairly sensitive irony/sarcasm meter but I sensed nothing from Starship Troopers

to give me the impression they were ripping BushCo in the first film.

I found the first one SO bad I didn't even bother seeing the sequels so I never saw Troopers 3 so I don't have that to do a comparison.

:shrug:

Sorry...

[cascadiance]

71. The first was made in 1997, so it couldn't have been ripping Bushco.

But it definitely WAS ripping at fascism, much like Babylon V was around that time. The problem is that entities like Fox News probably used the video news depicted on Starship Troopers as a template for their work later, much like Bush and Rove used their "favorite sci-fi show" Babylon V as a template for their wickedness as well. J. Michael Strazcynski, who created the show is anything BUT a right winger, and said he had to go lie down a bit after he heard someone tell him of Karl Rove's remarks to this effect.

[Bolo Boffin]

73. I make no claims about the sequels

I never knew there were sequels. :D

[Bolo Boffin]

72. No, it is war propanganda ad absurdium - intentionally so.

Watch it again. Look at the movie treats the bugs. At first they are just mindless, faceless enemies. But as the movie progresses, you see them in similar situations as the humans, especially one scene where the humans are attacking a bug training camp. The bugs are the same as the humans. In their own way, they're just as gorgeous and vacuous as the human soldiers. And when Nazi Neil triumphantly yells to the troops that the brain bug is afraid of them all, well, I'll bet! Wouldn't you be? Weren't you?

"Starship Troopers" is incredibly subversive. There are plenty of tells to the actual intent of the movie. I remember about 2/3rds of the way through, a reporter -- well, it's been too dang long since I've seen it. But he makes some kind of report, and I recall the camera holding on him as he finished and stared at the camera in a "Can you believe this crap I have to say?" way. And as I remember, it's a crucial speech.

I'll admit the source material is what you're saying, but the slavish devotion to the Heinlein book is part of the satire. I looked through some reviews, and I'll also admit that even Ebert missed this. But I still think I'm right -- "Starship Troopers" is war propanganda ad absurdium. It gleefully overplays its hand, and the underlying message is "Do not be caught up in this type of trash. Think for yourself." Harris' character could have been that guy. Instead, he's the cautionary tale.

[ddeclue]

76. I guess I'll have to rent and watch it again more carefully...

I think the first time I saw it was in the theater and I hated it so much I didn't bother buying it and watching again or seeing of the sequels.

[Bolo Boffin]

83. I just put it on my Netflix too

Just to make sure I'm not crazy! :D

[Greyhound]

53. That is the trend. Can't be sure from a 2.5 minute preview, but it certainly looks like

the antithesis of Roddenberry's point. They did it (really badly) with Jewison's Rollerball, too.

Starship Troopers was an abomination, the entire film was based on half of one chapter and they didn't even get the Troopers themselves right.

Can't wait to see what they do (if they do) with A Clockwork Orange.
:eyes:

[ddeclue]

55. Never do a cover of The Beatles.....

It's tricky stuff doing a cover, a re-make, a prequel or a sequel.

It's tricky stuff turning a book into a film too.

I just think that it's gonna be real hard not to piss off a lot of Star Trek fans with this film.

[NeedleCast]

56. Sometimes it's just a movie

[cascadiance]

48. And Majel Rodenberry's performance here is her last like Heath Ledger's was in the Dark Knight...

Though I'm guessing as a voice of the computer she won't have a performance strong enough to warrant a posthumous acting Oscar award the way Ledger did this year, I wonder if they'll seek to honor her performance in some way, to honor the great legacy that her and her husband have given us with this great series over the years.

[ddeclue]

58. If anything it should be at the Emmys because most of her work was on television. nt

[cascadiance]

80. It's interesting though that Star Trek actually might not be her LAST movie.

She's also in Hamlet A.D.D. later this year too as another robot voice, according to IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000854/

[Pacifist Patriot]

51. *sigh* My kids will love this much like...

the inferior Star Wars prequels somehow sucked them into my nostalgic Star Wars obsession.

[ddeclue]

60. Yeah WHAT happened?

The first three SW films had heart, humour, good writing, world class acting and magic...

The "prequels" seemed to be about look how much money I can spend on CGI these days...

Computer graphic special effects are NOT a good substitute for writing, directing, and acting.

[Pacifist Patriot]

68. And your last sentence is precisely the impression I got from the ST trailer.

[dysfunctional press]

54. i saw it last nite at the watchmen opening...

i'm ready NOW....

[progressoid]

61. Harold goes to White Castle in the future!

That was Harold right?

[donco6]

62. Looks fun. n/t

[TommyO]

63. I was going to see the movie anyway

The newest trailer gives me a little more hope that it won't be Suck Trek '09.

I downloaded it from iTunes, it looks phenomenal in 1080p!

[hedgehog]

64. In my continueing obsession with soundtracks, is the music on the trailer

from this movie or is it dubbed in from another?

[Lorien]

90. I tried to grab it with Midomi and shazam, neither could identify it

so it could be the soundtrack. When I worked in Feature films we never used our soundtracks on our trailers (always scratch from other soundtracks or classical music) but that was a different studio.

[Phoonzang]

66. I need to change my pants.

That looks completely awesome. The series needed a reboot and I think this will be a good way to do it.

[Cleita]

69. I like escapist stuff with good characters and stories and Star Trek often

filled that bill, but truthfully I think this dead horse can't be beaten again. It's time for some fresh fantasy and Sci-Fi to rock us.

[jakeXT]

70. Where is Jar Jar Binks?

New uniforms a nod to the original
According to TrekMovie sources, the Starfleet uniforms on the Enterprise are the element of this film closest to The Original Series in design. They are comprised of very dark grey (almost black) pants and boots for the men and mini skirts and boots for the women along with the previously mentioned shirts. For the women’s outfits, the mini-skirts are a bit longer than TOS and they have both short-sleeved and long-sleeved versions, and at least one female member of the crew will be wearing pants.

http://trekmovie.com/2008/07/31/star-trek-movie-uniform-spoilers/

What!! longer mini skirts ?

[johnfunk]

78. Longer Miniskirt = Jumbo Shrimp = Military Intelligence = Republican Integrity

'Nuff said.

[ddeclue]

79. Hopefully pushed under a bus somewhere...

It they were trying to be as close to the beginning of the ST:TOS series as possible they would have to have spent a lot of effort dovetailing into the original pilot episode "The Menagerie" which actually had a lot of significant differences from the second pilot and got dovetailed into the series later as a sort of clip-like show where Spock gets put on trial for mutiny.

How does Captain Christopher Pike fit in?

What about all the different uniforms in THAT pilot?

What about the differences in weapons and all the different characters from THAT episode? There was a different doctor, a different captain, a different first officer.. Spock was the only one the same and even HE was different in his personality.

On the other end, there would need to be some effort to dovetail it into the end of Star Trek Enterprise (the last TV series) which came chronologically before it.

Overall there would need to be as much effort as possible to insure that the story line remains consistent with the other 5 series and 10 movies and that is a LOT of mythology to keep consistent (it already has a number of inconsistencies). The only persons alive who are remotely qualified to do it are Brannon and Braga who produced the last four TV series and several of the movies since Gene Roddenberry is long since dead.

I suspect major "retcon" issues will arise from this film and it will screw things up tremendously.

[road2000]

82. Prequels suck.

Remember that excrement that was the Butch and Sundance prequel? Why ruin a good buddy relationship? "Troubled teens." Dark and edgy. Bah. Kirk and Spock sprang fully matured from Roddenberry's mind, IMHO, and an appealing part of their relationship was that frequent and deliberate kitsch begun on the series and carried out in the first six movies. These throwback characters don't appear to be loveable at all.

What's next? Ratso and Joe Buck as kids?

It might have been more interesting if the young captain were the child of Riker and Troi, although 12 minutes as a captain would certainly be an ignoble end for Number One.

[hedgehog]

92. At the risk of exposing myself as a Trekkie, I think Roddenberry

had only a vague notion of where he was going to take these characters at first. The episodes in TOS were written by freelancers, some of whom never saw a single episode before submitting their scripts. There is a lot of unevenness in the characters in the first season. The actors came up with a lot of the bits, such as Spock's "Livelong and Prosper" gesture which I believe is derived from Jewish tradition. IMO, Roddenberry nearly killed the franchise with the first season of TNG. It was only when other writers got hold of it that it took off. Roddenberrry thought that Wesley was going to be the break-out character!

[KittyWampus]

85. looks great

[No.23]

87. Glad to see that he rides a motorcycle too.

Motorcyclists (versus bikers) rule!

[AyanEva]

88. *flails*

I really have no words. Just *flails*

I need to see this movie NOW. Thank GOD the Bermaga moster is gooooone GONE GONE GONE. OMFG this looks awesome. I'm so excited!

I was all CANON VIOLATIONS at first but the timeline/alt universe thing makes it OK, so the TOS-verse canon is intact and I'm happy. I can do two versions of canon as long as they don't conflict and I'm so starved for some decent Trek in any form that I'll go along with it and to hell with any reservations I might have had.

I'm determined to be a loyal Trek fan and love this movie just on principle. Majel felt it was OK and Nimoy feels it's OK, so I'm OK. If those two gave/give it their seal of approval, I won't argue with that.