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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:06 PM Original message |
Will New Power Lines Run Through Your Back Yard? |
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moundsview (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Depends on whose backyard it is |
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PM Martin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. True. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. I would have no problem with a solar tower |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Wind turbines . . . |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Do you know this personally? 'Cause I've stood beneath some mighty big ones and... |
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Massacure (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Bullcrap |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. I think it depends on the kind of turbine used |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. At what point do we "underground" the whole system, leaving it less vulnerable to weather? ... |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. My new neighborhood has all its utility lines underground |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. our new neighborhood has underground lines as well- but we get more outages than anywhere else... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That's a great point. I wonder if anyone has researched the |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It's very definitely 'doable' it's just insanely expensive in existing developed areas. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Fixing power failures after ice storms and hurricanes are also insanely |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Compared to the cost of burying utilities in developed neighborhoods, replacing overhead lines |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. It's insanely expensive to blast holes in mountainsides for power lines too |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Perhaps you should leave technical issues to technical people. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. How many transmission line projects have YOU worked on? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. The technology really doesn't exist to "underground" massive power lines over long distances. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. why does it matter if the cables are strung above ground or underground? |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It has to do with how electricity behaves in close proximity to earth vs. air. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. and how is europe different...? |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Which poster? I don't know who you mean. But anyway, they don't bury |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Long-distance *TRANSMISSION* lines in Europe look just like ours. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Because it's easy to insulate 1 million volts in air and really tough in an underground cable. |
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Kip Humphrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Real viability suggests developing a nationwide long distance superconducting buried |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Circular storage? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Actually, that aspect of the poster's post is valid. |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I'm all for R&D, even the sort that has little chance of real world functionality... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Well, luckily work on fusion *IS* going on, just not so much in the US anymore. |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Sure, that's great...I think WE should be pursuing it. Imagine what might've been done with the |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. We *WERE* investigating it, but Reagan substantially defunded it. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Cough-choke-gasp! |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Wait...what if we just line the tunnels with Republican hearts? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. 4) Lots of work for environmental consulting firms |
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GentryDixon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. I live in a community where all my utilities are underground. |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. They started burying our about 20 years ago |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
28. That's nothing. Consider Easements by Eminent Domain. |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. There's a 3 phase 440 KV line running over our property about 120 feet from my chair here. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Right, but it can greatly hurt property values |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Yes, that's true. Fortunately our area (shore of a nice big lake) isn't affected. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
33. "NIMBY makes a comeback" |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
38. You want massive solar projects? You want massive wind projects? |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. I wish every building produced it's own energy. |
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