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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:32 PM Original message |
Legislator wants welfare recipients drug tested |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. Now I'm guessing Rep. Stouffer is a good Christian man who would |
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Raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. I want Legislators drug tested...they also get public funds. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. i like that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
99. Exactly. And much more of them, too! Maybe they also need |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. Citizen wants legislators drug tested |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. what about bank CEO's? (nt) |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. The repukes in MO are on a roll this year |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. i gave up the fight |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
126. You're a better person than I am. I don't even try. They disgust and |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. I want all bank and wall street firm officers and traders drug tested |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
105. +100!! I was thinking that EXACT same thing |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
7. Probably a VERY GOOD Idea |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Yes |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Only if he gets drug tested himself. nt |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I'm under the DESA program as mandated by DOT |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I was with Dept of Corrections for nine years - seven as a guard, two |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. When my name comes up in the rotation - I'm tested |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. And your point would be....? I'm talking about *him*. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. How does that justify drug testing welfare recipients? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. Treat the Problem rather then throw money at it |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. So because you are drug tested at work, that means welfare recipients are |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Your logic is STUPID |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. You started this by talking about your work and how you were tested |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. As Jimmy Hendricks would say "Are you Experienced" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Um yes in fact I do |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Maybe you should go back to school then |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Actually no they wouldn't |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. Buying Marijuana when they need to feed their children ..... |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I'm not a "Social worker"... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. Oh yeah all over America children are starving so their parents can feed their marijuana habit |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Here is a somewhat off topic "clue"... |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Hey, you beat me to it. ;) |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Yeah, that happens... |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. Comparing a Grammatical error to Failed Logic is comical |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Yes, you have cleverly exposed me for what I really am... |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Liberals and Progressives didn't Win the election |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. What? |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Give it up...you have already lost. You have expressed "failed logic" |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Umm, that's "Jimi Hendrix"...sorry genuis. n/t |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 05:15 AM Response to Reply #79 |
118. Dude, you can't spell Jimi Hendrix |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Why? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Its not about making conditions harder - |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. You probably have no idea how much that would cost |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Flood the child welfare system |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Drug testing and administration is an expensive proposition |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. The program in itself cost a shit load of money |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Cost less then a WASTED LIFE |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. If you are addicted to crack, meth, or coke |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Marijuana does present a problem |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. People who smoke Pot don't need counciling |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. If they know they got a Drug Test coming - and can't pass it |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. The question is cost/benefit |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Not BUYING the excuse - at all |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. So I guess we need to define "drug problem" |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. On that point I agree with you |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. There are other ways to deal with this than drug testing them |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
72. Are you sure you are on the right website |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. You'll just have to get used to it Jake |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Yes and Barack Obama and Trinity UCC |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
114. Goldenseal. It's an herb. And not usually placed in "quotes". n/t |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
65. that's your idea |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. So your "solution" is spend a ton of money to cut people off from aid for a dirty UA |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. GENIUS - pay them to stay addicted to drugs |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I know quite a few people from "East L.A." who are not... |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Go ahead test me - I don't have a problem with that |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Actually there is someone looking like a fool here |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
77. The fact of the matter is... |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
97. Here welfare gives approx. $300 per month, nothing to a true addict.n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. And everyone who tests positive for drugs is an addict who is wasting their life? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. If you can't pass a test you know is coming - you just might be a Drug Addict |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. But drug tests are usually not scheduled |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Eating a poppy seed roll... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. We think that is what happened in my husband's case |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. PURE Myth - eat Poppy Sead Muffins all the time - never FAILED |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. How about a link? |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Perhaps the drug test you so happily submit to... |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:09 AM Response to Reply #88 |
119. Not a myth. It depends on how sanitized the seeds are. |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
98. Lush Rimbough is a Multi-Millionaire so a guess you could say his life isn't wasted |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. NO, he's not |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Yes I Do Think it is a Good Idea |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. Yes, and all welfare receipients are drug addicts |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
73. Do you rant about a lot of things you're only half-assed educated about? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Hate to say it, but you and he are wrong. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. You have any clue as to the Looses from just Alcohol - |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Legalize Pot and you can have your fucking drug tests |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. On that point I agree - n/t |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Prove that testing welfare applicants reduces those costs. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Number of people in Prison from "Broken Familys with Drug problems" |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. That is not evidence that testing welfare applicants will reduce the problem. |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
116. You are debating a wall... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
53. How is he right? |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
84. How dare you attempt to withhold your tax dollars from meth heads. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
100. Seconded. |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. What about alcohol? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. There are more drugs |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. No jobs available in Napton, MO |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. So much for the govt staying out of one's life.. for some idiots who tout |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. One more thing about what does this accomplish |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. Ahhh, more $$$ for the drug-testing industry. |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. That's the PRIVATIZED, profit-making drug-testing industry! |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hey Bill, how about testing hatemongering radio talk show propagandists too? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. IT'd be great if drug tests were free |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
25. Why stop here? |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Yes, and let's start at the top instead of the bottom for a change! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. Doesn't he worry about his federal tax money being handed to an "associate" by David Vitter, wearing |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
37. I don't have a problem with this as long as they offer treatment and support. |
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NavyDavy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. how about the CEOs who take our money |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
44. Tell the legislator -- *YOU first, dude.* n/t |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
52. So if they smoke a little pot, they should starve? |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'm with those who want the legislators drug tested. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
87. I'd prefer that they test 'em using PCL-R |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think it's unconstitutional. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
113. It's just a Class War talking point |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:13 AM Response to Reply #59 |
120. Of course it is. A republican introduced this wonderful idea. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
61. just let 'em starve! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
75. Yeah, MO should breathalyze its legislators during the session: I'm sure the taxpayers |
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GOPisEvil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
101. Hey numbnuts! State governments are broke!! |
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sohndrsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
106. um.... wait a second. This is stupid. |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
108. only if all our elected officials take one too, |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
110. It reminds me of someone against food stamps for those who drank or smoked |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
117. It goes back to the victorian prudery of the 'deserving poor'. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
121. "...let's test legislators while we're at it." |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
122. Thankfully we've got a sane, Democratic governor |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
123. I think that the analogy between workplace testing and testing for welfare is flawed for one reason. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
124. The comments to the article put me in tears. |
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125. Another brainless GOP grandstander. |
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