Christians marking their territory in Texas

[johncoby2]

You have wonder where the priorities are of some Christians in the Bay Area. Sagemont Church has decided to spend God knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars on marking their territory with a 150 ft tall white cross. The cross is surrounded by a moat and illuminated with light at night.



Complete post at: http://tinyurl.com/as8q82

[walkaway]

1. And then do they lift their legs on it? n/t

[TWiley]

2. HEY JESUS ....... REMEMBER THIS?

I never did understand why the symbol of torture and death is considered a holy icon. I do understand that it is, but it seems rude to keep bringing it up. Kind of like forcing the victim of a violent sexual crime to relive the experience for our gratification.

[Codeine]

7. What comedian once compared

honoring Jesus with the cross to honoring JFK with the symbol of a rifle?

[Tim01]

11. Most beautiful pic I have seen in .....

Hmm, well I don't know. Maybe ever.

[Codeine]

17. It's absolutely gorgeous, isn't it?

Found it on DeviantArt, I think. I was instantly entranced.

[Tim01]

29. Of course.

I've been away from that site for too long.

[TWiley]

13. It is difficult to make sense out of isn't it?

I would be offended by anyone wearing a cross if I got crucified on one and somehow came back to life.

[NC_Nurse]

21. Bill Hicks, of course. I wish he was here now.

[Codeine]

25. That's the guy!

Thanks! :hi:

[givemebackmycountry]

26. That would be the late Bill Hicks that pointed that out....

Damn, I wish he was still around.

[AllentownJake]

8. It was originally a fish

Don't know when it turned into the crucifix :shrug: I think probably when the church got mixxed up in the state. A cross is a more threatning symbol than a fish on shields.

As a Christian, I don't really focus too much on the crucification, I focus mostly on what Jesus had to say. All the cross is, is a reminder of what happened to him for saying it and a reminder to me that if I live by his example and speak against the system of the powerful I as well may face something similar.

I believe in the resurrection and the miracles so alot on here will jump all over me. It's my faith I'm secure in it.

[TWiley]

15. That is kind of how I saw it too.

The symbol seems like some kind of a veiled threat. If you live like Christ, then this can or will happen to you.

Quote: I focus mostly on what Jesus had to say. All the cross is, is a reminder of what happened to him for saying it and a reminder to me that if I live by his example and speak against the system of the powerful I as well may face something similar. End Quote

Maybe the organization itself is trying to keep their members in line? It is a mystery for sure.

edit for spelling.

[AllentownJake]

19. Real Christianity

Doesn't say if you don't sin, live by these moral rules, and pray when you should everything will be ok in life.

If anyone really understands Jesus they understand there was this guy who spoke out against the religous leaders of his time who were part of the government, asked people to be more forgiving towards one another and take care of each other, and the only way to live is to not be afraid to die for doing the right thing.

If I do the right thing, it doesn't mean I necessarily will get rewarded. There is a chance I will die for doing the right thing.

Ghandi got that, MLK got that, and Bobby Kennedy got that. Despite Ghandi not being a Christian he was one of the most Christ like men of the 20th century.

[RoyGBiv]

36. It's blood symbolism ...

It's the ancient world's version of waving the bloody shirt. As was said up-thread, this is all about the political value of a symbol. A fish doesn't quite do it.

But, it's not about threatening opponents directly so much as inspiring followers to develop a blood lust, which in turn is a threat to opposition.

[Tim01]

3. They think the christian religion is great

and it makes them happy. They want everybody to see how great it is and how happy they are.
Sort of like decorating everything in sight with stickers of your favorite band, or whatever.

[AllentownJake]

9. I'm a Christian

its my faith. I'm willing to be persecuted and killed for it. Unlike the people down there I'm not willing to kill another human being to protect myself over it. I don't need a Giant Cross in my hometown for me to be secure in my faith.

[DainBramaged]

4. I wonder if they would be happy if a GIANT Star of David was erected

within spitting distance of their cross?

[Eugenian]

6. Better yet,

a giant Flying Spag Monster.

[blogslut]

5. Pffft! Slow pokes.

We've had a big-ass cross in the Panhandle for almost 20 years. Granted, it's only 90 feet tall but the high plains region is way flat so it shows up on the horizon a lot sooner. We win the Jesus wars.

http://www.crossministries.net/

[AllentownJake]

16. I look at that and think

How many people could have been fed, how many people could have recieved treatment for an addiction, and how many people could have gotten clothes...you know people...the thing that Jesus was really interested in.

[hootinholler]

27. Oh yeah?

Well, you don't have TOUCHDOWN JESUS!



HAH! Ohio Wins!

-Hoot

[Raine]

10. They "believe" they're under assault

for their faith so they put up all kinds of "in your face" smybols, love playing victim vs. the big bad godless liberals ... whatever. :shrug:

[AllentownJake]

14. Its odd

because if they read their New Testament, they are doing the exact opposite of what they were told to do.

The symbol of your faith you are supposed to where is living a good life.

[Eugenian]

18. And doesn't the Old Testament

have something to say about worshipping objects and idols?

[DainBramaged]

20. Today's pseudo-Christians (I am not one) believe in symbolism

instead of reflection and prayer.

[AllentownJake]

23. Its alot easier to set up moral rules that make you good and others bad

than to reflect upon yourself and how you could better serve. I believe those people were responsible for that symbol to begin with.

[AllentownJake]

22. It seems to be a theme that comes up alot there

For most in those churches their idol is money not the cross. Ask them about taxes.

[Canuckistanian]

12. A moat? What is that supposed to symbolize?

To reinforce the idea of only a chosen few? To force the infidels to die in the wilderness, shunned and locked out?

That's my theory.

[Fumesucker]

32. Jeebus has to walk across the moat to get to the torture device..

It keeps out the religiously impure.

[BlueJazz]

35. ...and the moat is filled with a special kind of Alligator.

[NoPasaran]

24. Looks like a lightning magnet to me

[AndyTiedye]

30. If That Cross Were Struck By Lightning

Would the insurance refuse to pay on grounds that it was an "act of God"? :evilgrin:

[Eryemil]

37. Hahaha. I'd pay to see that! n|t

[kestrel91316]

28. What do you EXPECT them to spend their money on?

The poor? Widows?? The sick???

Why on earth would they do THAT?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

31. Did you contribute to the church?

[Ioo]

33. I wonder how many in that church have no money and forclosed home?

What a waste of cash

[Fumesucker]

34. illuminated with light at night

Well, that will certainly help blot out the firmament of Heaven from human sight.

As if we don't already have enough wasteful light pollution on secular nonsense.

The Heavens declare the Glory of God, but Sagemont Church would rather we saw a creation of man than of God.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

38. Disgusting, but not surprising.

Guess they never read about "As you did it unto the Least of Them so also you did it unto Me".

Feeding the hungry, comforting the afflicted, clothing the naked.....all that stuff must not be in their Bible either.


Sagemont Church
11300 S. Sam Houston Parkway E.
Houston TXC 77089

[AndyTiedye]

39. Zeus Weighs In

[TWiley]

40. Neptune is pissed too, he is scheduled at eight.