"the Bible that blocked a bullet!" MSNBC!!

[PCIntern]

Oh shit...here we go...

IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On edit: the details don't matter...it's bible and bullet in the same sentence. that's all you have to know...

[tridim]

1. Obviously we need more powerful guns!

:sarcasm:

[YOY]

8. or bigger bibles!

:sarcasm:

[polmaven]

15. That is not the LEAST bit funny.

:thumbsdown:

[tridim]

16. Wasn't meant to be, sorry.

Take it up with the gun-nut crowd.

[kanrok]

2. Hardly a miracle.

The pastor was shot to death.

[HughMoran]

28. Dig it - it's not like it actually saved his life in the end

...at least if I understand the story correctly.

[hendo]

3. link please? NT

[JSK]

4. I thought he died anyway

So the moral of the story -- the bible is useless.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

5. Well, as makeshift kevlar, at least. nt

[ret5hd]

6. Obviously god is telling us that the king james bible is missing a few pages.

the comlete bible would have stopped that bullet.

[polmaven]

22. That isn't funny either.

There was more than one shot fired before the gun jammed.

[ret5hd]

31. You don't think the apocrypha would have helped?

[polmaven]

36. So you, too, think the shooting death

of a man is really good fodder to do some good old fashioned religion bashing? Some of the replies - actually MOST of the replies in this thread are as disgusting as some of the things the far right religious NUTS would say.

THE MAN WAS SHOT TO DEATH FOR NO APPARENT REASON OTHER THAN HIS OCCUPATION!!!! That is not something progressives usually celebrate.

[Fleshdancer]

7. Yeah, that's what happens when you use the bible as a shield

I wish it would have been enough. :(

[Canuckistanian]

9. The Iraqi body armor problem is solved!

There are probably enough Bibles in Iraq to do the job.

[NJmaverick]

10. If it blocked the bullet, why is he dead?

[polmaven]

21. Because there was

more than one bullet! Duh!

[NJmaverick]

26. huh so then the bible didn't save him

[tekisui]

30. He just didn't have enough bibles.

:)

[polmaven]

33. The reporting says he used the

bible to block ONE ROUND! I still have not seen a link referring to any miracle here. All I have seen is the OP saying that.

[polmaven]

41. Actually.....

The time for me to edit my prior response to you has expired, so I went to the MSNBC site to read the story myself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29582081

Please read that and then maybe point out to me where it comes anywhere NEAR using the word "miracle".

[TK421]

11. Once the bullet reached Revelations, it just said "Oh, what the hell"!

[Mad_Dem_X]

44. !

:spray:

[booksenkatz]

12. Wouldn't a Satanic Bible accomplish the same thing? nt

[Marrah_G]

13. Absolutely- or a dictionary even

I think mythbusters did a show on something like this.

[RamboLiberal]

17. Any thick book is better than nothing

to slow down the velocity and stop or lessen the impact of a bullet. I've certainly read stories of cops, soldiers and crime victims saved by something in their pocket from a bullet wound; books(including bibles), notebooks, lighters, cell phones, etc.

Sloppy reporting as usual. We know the bible was hit by a bullet but good grief the pastor was probably holding it in reflex. And you don't "deflect" a bullet with it like a bullet bouncing off Superman. The bible at most absorbed some of the impact.

Things happened so fast I'm sure the eyewitnesses in the church are not sure of the exact events.

[Lance_Boyle]

14. yes, but remember - nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. n/t

[GillesDeleuze]

18. bible and a brethalyzer

[polmaven]

20. What?

:shrug: Exactly what are you trying to say?

[dflprincess]

19. Teddy Roosevelt's life was saved by a speech he had folded up in the breast pocket of his coat

T.R. had many good points, but I never really thought of his words as being miraculous.

[snooper2]

23. Oh come on...

Have you never watched Mythbusters?

[dflprincess]

25. Occasionally, I missed any mention of TR

Before I posted, I googled for information on the assassination attempt and most the entries still come up indicating it is true... not that that makes it so.

[RamboLiberal]

32. TR had 2 objects in his pocket

Roosevelt was extremely lucky. He had the manuscript of a long, 50-page speech in his coat pocket, folded in two, and the bullet was no doubt slowed as it passed through it. He also had a steel spectacle case in his pocket, and the bullet traversed this, too, before entering Roosevelt's chest near the right nipple. Thus, one could say that Roosevelt's long-windedness and myopia saved his life!

http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/z_x26a_g.htm

And I'd imagine perhaps a .38 revolver and the cartridges of the day may not have quite the penetrating power of a modern day defensive round.

BTW, interesting words of TR after the attempt.

Now, I would not speak to you insincerely within five minutes of being shot. I am telling you the literal truth when I say my concern is for many other things. It is not in the least for my own life….

I don’t know who the man was who shot me to-night…. He shot to kill me. He shot the bullet. I am just going to show you (Col. Roosevelt then unbuttoned coat and vest and showed his white shirt badly stained with blood)….

Now, I wish to say seriously to the speakers and newspapers representing the Republican and Democratic and Socialist Parties that they cannot, month in and month out, year in and year out, make the kind of slanderous, bitter, and malevolent assaults that they have made and not expect that brutal and violent characters, especially when the brutality is accompanied by a not too strong mind; they cannot expect that such natures will be unaffected by it….

Don’t you pity me. I am all right. I am all right, and you cannot escape listening to my speech either….

http://edgeofthewest.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/i-am-all-right-and-you-cannot-escape-listening-to-my-speech-either/

And from the end of this article - interesting point that applies today IMHO with all the hate being spewed against President Obama and Democrats and liberals.

Assume, as Roosevelt did, a population in which there are some weak-minded people, prone to violence. What makes such people fixate on a public figure? Roosevelt thought it could only be the language, bordering on incitement, with which it had become acceptable to attack public figures.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Oh for god sakes, it is a 45, a VERY SLOW round

a fairly thick book, any thick book, will do that...

[Occam Bandage]

27. Here's an interesting site with a guy who took books down to a shooting range,

to see how much paper it took to stop various bullets.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot31.htm

[Hassin Bin Sober]

29. Reminds me of the movie Support Your Local Sheriff...

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Jason McCullough(James Garner): *Fingering dented badge*.. That must have saved the life of whoever was wearin' it.
Mayor Olly Perkins: Well, it sure would have, if it hadn't been for all them other bullets flyin' in from everywhere.

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065051/quotes

[ThoughtCriminal]

46. Doh! - just noticed you beat me to it.

I've often used to same scene to explain why I had low confidence in missile defense systems.

[graywarrior]

34. I watched that for 30 seconds longer than my stomach could tolerate

[Vinca]

35. A miracle? I think not. A miracle would be the bullet misses the Bible,

makes a direct hit on the guy's heart and he lives to tell about it.

[NNN0LHI]

37. Blazing Saddles

[Dukkha]

38. The Origin of Species is a thicker book

at least my copy is.

So the bible stopped only one round. oh how those pesky laws of probability get in the way of miracles.

[Cheap_Trick]

39. A phone book would've done the same fucking thing.

Let's start preaching from the almighty yellow pages.

"From the pages of yellow, let us turn to the book of "automotive", and sing a hymn to "Frank's Auto Repair"."

Amen

[LeftHander]

40. Stack O'Porn Mags does the same....nt

[camera obscura]

42. maybe we should be more concerned with the fact that a guy was gunned down in church

instead of whether or not the Bible blocked a bullet or whether or not Christians are going to call it a miracle.

[backtoblue]

43. I had a booth at the county fair..

and across from mine was a christian ministry that was giving away a FREE RIFLE! I wish I'd taken pios of it because it was absolutely ridiculous. Why does religion promote guns anyway???

[ThoughtCriminal]

45. I can't make light of this situation

but it reminds me of a scene from "Support you Local Sheriff". When he receives his badge, the new sheriff notices a dent from a bullet and comments "Looks like this saved the life of whoever was wearing it." The mayor responds: "Yep, it probably would have if it weren't for all them other bullets flying in from every direction."

[NoPasaran]

47. Remember the nut who ran for Oklahoma Superintendent of Schools

Remember the nut who ran for Oklahoma Superintendent of Schools a few years ago and promised to put thick textbooks in all classrooms so students could use them as shields from flying bullets?

[PCIntern]

48. Remember the OK School Board member who said:

If English was good enough for Jesus then it should be good enough for everyone else.

[NoPasaran]

49. Actually, that's usually attributed to Miriam "Ma" Ferguson, Governor of Texas

"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it ought to be good enough for the children of Texas," questioning funding the teaching of Latin. But it may actually be one of those apocryphal sayings.

[PCIntern]

50. the version I heard was OK...

but who the heck knows...

[NoPasaran]

53. Yeah, apparently it goes back to at least the 19th Century

Or so the internets would have us believe.

[closeupready]

51. I was on a bus last year passing a public park and someone shot at our bus,

leaving a hug indentation in the window (but since it's bulletproof, it didn't shatter). I think about that all the time, and get kind of scared about walking about, which is weird, I suppose, but you read about people being killed by random gunfire all the time.

[Auggie]

52. Maybe it's time I carry "The Origin of Species"