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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:04 PM Original message |
Michelle's sleeveless dresses -- the start of a new culture war? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nah. Possibly the start of a new *stupid* war, however. |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Jackie Kennedy used to wear sleeveless dresses frequently, and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It must suck to keep having to re-hang your livingroom drapes. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Or reupholster the couches... |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Jackie wore them in the summer. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. It was colder in the sixties. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. did she wear jackets or sweaters in cooler weather? A lot of women wear sleeveless |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. They usually had jackets. Correige - I can't spell it - was big on matching jackets. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
113. You might want to rethink that... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Distinction? |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Umm, the 60s have ended. (and for most of us, so have the styles) |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
44. Not true. She wore one to a State of the Union address, |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Picture: Jackie Kennedy, sleeveless at the State of the Union address. |
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xenussister (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. Here's a picture of Jack sleeveless in winter |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. That photo was from January 1963 which is definitely winter. |
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xenussister (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
99. Of course, I meant Jackie. It's a color version of the one DevonRex posted. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. And, I ask..so the fuck |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. And, it ain't even true. See above links for Jackie at the SOU in 1963. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
67. (facepalm) |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. I thought it said 'Michael Steele's sleeveless dresses!' |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Very bad imagery |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
96. I actually thought the exact same thing but |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. Are you serious? |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Wish I'd made a list. I've read so many references to this over the |
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Blue Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. I think the Huffington Post is keep ing a running tally on the stories... |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Wow, I can't believe how low they've sunk. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. She's a "Hussy." |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. If wingnuts want to go after Michelle, let them. That is lose-lose for them. |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. The best comment I have used, is... |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Sleeveless dresses and blouses - I stopped wearing them 20 years ago!!! |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
11. it is hardly a precedent - Jackie was often photographed in sleeveless dresses |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. yes, summer dresses |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Not just summer. Here's a photo from the 1963 State of the Union |
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xenussister (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
101. Thank you for that link DrDan. So many great pictures of Jackie. |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's a modesty thing |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
87. *gasp* Next thing you know, she'll be baring her ankles!!elevens11 |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. Maureen Dowd wrote a whole column about her bare arms. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. As Max Bialystock said in "The Producers," "If you've got it, flaunt it." |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. My same, take. She looked great, but I think a jacket over it would have been appropriate. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. That dress cried out to me saying, "I need a matching jacket!" |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. They are so jealous! It's jealousy. She looks FABULOUS and they can't stand it. nt |
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sweetpotato (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Jealousy is absolutely correct |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. People who even pay any attention to this |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. It does matter what impression Michelle makes. She is the first lady and |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. But who under the age of 70 gives a shit? |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Apparently some people from Mississippi. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Some people will always insinuate that Michelle doesn't have the class to mix with polite society. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I don't think that is what people mean and I know it is not what I mean. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Who said "money is no object"???? And a classy, knee length silk sleeveless dress is hardly |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. "Personally, I cringed when I saw her in the sleeveless dress at the address to Congress." |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So now you know better than I what I meant. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Funny, no one thought that when Jackie Kennedy wore sleeveless in winter. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Great minds think alike. And it took us, what? One minute to google it? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. People pulled the same thing on the Clintons, promoting a "trailer trash" |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yes, it is. As if Laura and Ma Bush are the last word on etiquette. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Why not present our best arms forward? |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I'm jealous, too. They're slim and strong. Plus, mine are pasty white. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Please give up on the sunning, fellow pasty-white. It's not worth it, in terms of |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. *sigh* Do you mean I really have to grow up and accept reality? Dammit!! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Maybe the trick is to skip the beautiful early years, |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
115. We can all get involved with some free weights. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. That's what I'm thinking. Start light, more reps. It'll be good for us. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
74. All it amounts too is a fashion statement |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. This day will go down in history. I agree with you. |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. good grief |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. I hear she hangs with people whose parents visited |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. What's wrong with sleeveless dresses now ? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. The fact that Mrs. Obama is wearing them. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
111. That is no problem at all. |
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s-cubed (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
30. She may have a very good reason for sleeveless dresses. She is in her |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. I've thought that, too. If so, she's lucky she looks so gorgeous in them. n/t |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. I don't have a problem with her going sleeveless at all except, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. You haven't hit menopause yet. You might be reevaluating layers by then. |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. Oh absolutely! lol. |
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PlanetBev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
61. What would they prefer? |
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AyanEva (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. I'm not saying obsess over fashion |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
64. Princess Di wore lots of sleeveless. |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
65. Place and time. Place and time. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Picture of Jackie Kennedy at the State of the Union address, January 1963. Sleeveless. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I'll bet she has a jacket to that ensemble |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I'll bet Michelle does, too. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. If she does, it's no more visible than Michelle's. n/t |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. Yet somehow, for Jackie, it's "assumed." I guess if one begins with the premise that |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. And your point is.... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. So you're equating Michelle at teh SOU with a female attorney at work in court??? |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Not silly. Both are serious occasions where more professional dress is the norm. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Who decreed that women can't wear sleeveless dresses and be professional? |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. NYC is not D.C. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. And Michelle is not the president. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. She's not the President. She's a First Lady, sitting in the audience. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. Be careful or you'll be accused of a whole litany of things: |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. It is possible that the views from Mississippi aren't shared by most |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #107 |
118. I was born there nad still have family there. What you say is true. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. Well the conservatives across the country probably |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
106. When she gets a salary for her work, then let's talk about her sleeves. |
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PopSixSquish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. l've Said this Before and I'll Say it Again |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
68. I cannot BELIEVE we are still on this here |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
69. Who gives a flying fuck what wingnuts think |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
71. They're just jealous of her arms. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
72. Maybe the building is overheated. |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
81. People who give a fuck about First Lady fashion should be prevented from voting |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. Oh, tanngrisnir3. I am literally |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. If I'd known you'd have been so pleased, I would have posted sooner! |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. Yep, that's the real culture war. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
82. she looks great! I love it. |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
84. Obviously, this marks the beginning of a new Arms Race. n/t |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Haha Best answer! |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. Now that's funny. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
88. Michelle Obama is lovely |
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dddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
95. HEY! This is unconstitutional |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
102. They're just jealous Michelle got her tickets |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
103. For all the non-fashionistas, clothes do matter. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
105. Michelle's nude arms are beautiful! |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
108. They are just jealous because Pickles never had the biceps to pull the sleeveless look off |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #108 |
119. Hey Jenn! That Pickles nick always cracks me up. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Hey! Michelle is such a welcome change from Pickles and her |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
109. They have puny girly-mahn bodies and need the Gobernator to PUMP them up.. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
110. If her arms "flapped" when she waved, THEN she shouldn't wear sleeveless. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
112. All these fashion critics make me so glad I live in the northwest. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #112 |
120. Same here in Colorado. As long as it's sufficiently dressy for the occasion |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #112 |
124. Is that kinda like |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
114. No sleeves, in great shape? Let her be an inspiration to us all. |
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mwei924 (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-12-09 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
116. It's cause half of Americans are obese. . |
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122. I really miss the cross-eyed Pickles and her fine taste in clothing... |
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