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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:09 AM
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A thought on Seymore Hersh
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:17 AM by Joe Fields
There is something wrong, IMO, about a guy who "leaks" info to the public about a super-secret C.I.A. force that reported directly to Dick Cheney, but doesn't want to let the facts out, until he has published another book.

Anything wrong with that picture?

If Mr. Hersh has any proof, then take it to the Justice Dept. NOW! Don't wait, until you can profit by it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:12 AM
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1. He said he hasn't written about it.
He didn't say he never told anyone before.

Also, It's Seymour Hersh, not Seymoure Hersch.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:16 AM
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5. excuse me. Hersh.
Happy now?

Hew doesn't work that way. He is about promoting himself for profit. Not once have I read where he has contacted authorities. He always waits until he publishes a book. If he has such "bombshell" info, screw writing a book. Gather what you know and take it to the appropriate govt. agencies.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:28 AM
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9. Seymour, not Seymoure.
It's not about my happiness... just accuracy. I mean the man's name is all over the place, how much effort does it take?

As for the rest, you seem to be happy making lots of assumptions... I'll just leave you to it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:02 AM
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13. He has for decades....
Starting with Mai Lai massacre... Lots of justice followed from that, didn't it?

You know not of what you speak.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:51 AM
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19. I heard he didn't want to go completely public with the information
until he had all his ducks in a row. He didn't want to put ink to something that could not be completely proved beyond any doubt. He is just giving us a preview of what he will be divulging in his book.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:12 AM
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2. He has written columns and columns of the crimes and abuses
of the previous occupant of the White House. Real action and real justice never follow. Maybe he thinks he can get more attention by doing it this way.

I really don't think much would happen if he took it to the DoJ and read it to Holder himself.
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Last Stand Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:51 AM
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18. He is a professional writer. Or is that too simple of an explanation?
The guy has made a living out of writing about controversial things. If he wanted to fix them the old fashioned way, he would've gone into politics or police work. He wanted to be a writer and he just happens to have some serious cache now. If he gets his book onto the Bestseller list it's better than his 5 minutes on CNN with a 15-minute rebuttal by KKKalr Rove.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:14 AM
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3. He may just be too impulsive for his own cause. But consider this -
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:15 AM by peacetalksforall
he probably spoke prematurely though he's not ready with all his sourcing - the footnotes. At the same time, he may get more sources from this little slip or packet of planted words.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:14 AM
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4. To be fair, the man probably does need to spend more on security than you or I
Knowledge is power, but sometimes it is a huge liability too.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:17 AM
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6. He's protecting himself.
He's saying, "I know what's going on, I have the interviews to prove it, and if you whack me now, it will still get out."

I would imagine that fellow has created more dead-man switches in his career than just about anyone else.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:55 AM
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22. Exactly. And in doing so, he has also tipped off the administration.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:21 AM
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7. We found out about the torture in Abu Grahib through him
Crickets from the media. It all went on the internet
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:26 AM
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8. And was there not that little thingy back in 'Nam?
:P
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:35 AM
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12. and Kissinger's October surprise nt
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 12:46 PM
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23. The list goes on and on
:D
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:04 AM
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15. Yep. He broke the story on child rape there also, MSM wouldn't touch it
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:32 AM
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10. Hersh has the best sources in the biz
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:34 AM by Botany
He has 40 + years of being right.

He broke the Mi Lai story in 1969.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:34 AM
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11. Seymour Hersh is a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist...
he exposed the My Lai massacre, the abuse/torture at Abu Graib and the US covert operations in Iran. Going public with these is the only way to ensure they don't get buried by the Administration. Going to the DOJ does not ensure any action would be taken whereas going public via articles and books ensure the public is informed and the government cannot bury the evidence.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:03 AM
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14. There is no reason
to assume that he hasn't.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:18 AM
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16. He's very well sourced
Justice knows.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:20 AM
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17. Who do you go to when your government is the corrupt body
committing the crimes?

Who do you trust and how do you know you can trust them?

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:54 AM
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20. Yeah, damn him. If he had come to the government first....
they could have had him offed and NONE of this would have had to become public.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:54 AM
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21. He intentionally let the info slip publicly, in order to give a head's up to the administration AND
to protect himself. Now if anything happens to him, people will wonder why. And now the Obama admin has been tipped off about Cheney's activities.
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ebay_bizzare Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 01:30 PM
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24. wrong indeed
wrong indeed
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aldo Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 01:58 PM
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25. I dunno, sometimes he seems like a limited hangout specialist
Remember the second round of Abu Ghraib disclosures? He said that the pictures and videos were just terrible, but he never managed to be able to disclose them. So, effectively, he calmed down the chattering classes (us) but didn't reach the masses and Bush was re-elected.

So what's his point now? It may again be to calm us down but prevent any real investigation with teeth. We'll see.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:30 PM
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26. How exactly did talking about the abuses at Abu Ghraib calm anyone down?
All it did was ignite a fire under people who might never have heard of the more extensive abuses, which the pentagon is still hidning.
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