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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:06 PM
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I would love to punch Chris Matthews in his smarmy face.
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 04:06 PM by WilliamPitt
He's on Hardball now raising hell about all the Bush lies regarding Iraqi connections to 9/11 that led the charge into war.

We're eight days shy of the six-year anniversary, Tweety. Could have used all this logic and reason from you 2,182 days ago.

But you instead talked about your "man-crush" on Bush. You talked about how the women love this war. You had on all the main players in the perpetration of this ongoing Iraq fraud, and you never once challenged them on anything.

Welcome aboard, Chris. Please be sure to go fuck yourself at the earliest opportunity.

:grr:

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:07 PM
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1. Amen, Will. But maybe better late than never? nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:09 PM
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5. Tell that to all the dead and maimed people.
There's a million of them, I think, if not more.

:hug: Don't mean to be snappish at you :hug: , but no, that line doesn't fucking wash with me. This asshole is just as responsible for that war as Bush and his people.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:13 PM
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Tweety by himself would never have changed a thing.
And there were too many r/w cheerleaders to change the course of what happened. I do wish there still weren't so many out there still in such deep denial, like Gaffney.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:15 PM
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42. for pete's sake
it's not just matthews.

we have a certain secretary of state, who a few months ago still refused to admit she made a mistake by voting for the war.

LOTS of blame to go around.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:33 PM
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36. the more noise. the more chance of action. I'll take my rabblerousers
wherever they be. If I can look at that press secretary of bush's, what's his name with a modicum of equilibrium, I can accept tweety.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:10 PM
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8. I'll go with better late than never.
The hardcore Rs haven't lost a step in their mendacity, especially their rewriting of history. The battle isn't over. Every mouthpiece we have that shoots down the RW talking points - as did Tweets yesterday with Fleisher - is a mouthpiece that we need, possibly more now than before as the stake is being driven into the heart of the R Party.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:12 PM
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13. See post 5
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:14 PM
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17. Yeah, yeah,
we know all about it. And it was all Chris Matthews' fault.

Really.

There's plenty of blame to go around - singling out the one guy who's trying to make it right strikes me as a rather affected pose. And not a very attractive one at that.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:17 PM
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21. He waited til it was safe to "make it right."
He'll do the same thing with every other issue. It's his MO.

Watch as he enables the continuing Wall Street bailouts, then in a few years when it's all been proven to be a clusterfuck and a pile lies, he'll change his tune.

Will is right on with this one.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:24 PM
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27. He's a news commentator,
not a policy maker. He was reading it as it came to him, and he went with what he thought was the real story.

Hey, I don't agree with what he did, but I do applaud his working to make it right and to shine the bright light on those murderous, lying thugs.

Tweety could have done and and said nothing. It's a good mode from which he is operating. It's easy for those who aren't in any position of influence and power - people who don't have jobs like Tweety's - to cast aspersions. I don't put much truck in Monday morning quarterbacks who never got in the Saturday game.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:29 PM
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32. Many of us got it right here on DU and elsewhere.
So I'll cast all the asparagus I like. :)
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:32 PM
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35. Mmmmm, asparagus.....
Soon, the season will be upon us.

Yay!

:toast:

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:22 PM
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24. I've been unattractively affected by Matthews in the past
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:25 PM
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28. Your error here
is thinking that I'm interested in anything from truthout - that site is a joke. I just saw a link to a truthout story written by Jason Leopold. If that's not funny, I don't know what is.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:09 PM
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44. You are right, there is a lot of blame to go around. And let's get started. Mattew's is a good place
to start. He is a back stabbing, bush enabling opportunist bastard. I don't want him on my side, thank you very much. I would say the same for Hannity, Oreilly and Lipbaugh. In fact now that i think about it, he is worse than they are. It is obvious whose side they are on. Not with Cris.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:19 PM
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23. I did. I wasn't impressed.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:13 PM
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45. Sad. bush and his enablers are responsible for the deaths of over a million.
Where was Chris's dissenting voice? He was too busy kissing bush's ass.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:15 PM
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51. Matthews was a strongly anti-invasion in February 2003:
From interview in Salon, February 2003 (edit):

In the wide-ranging conversation conducted earlier this week Matthews assailed neo-conservative Iraq hawks, slapped Bush for sitting "on Sharon's lap" and worried about whether his antiwar stand is hurting his ratings.

Q: You like to say that the missing element in the war debate is a debate. Why do you think that is?

A: It's so tricky to give an honest answer to this. Motives are so hard to get to.

Q: Well, Ted Kennedy wants the president to come back to Congress for approval before we invade.

A: But they voted for the resolution before the election. And I can't explain that -- I can't explain Dianne Feinstein's vote. I can't explain John Kerry's vote. I can't explain Chuck Schumer's vote. This was a blank check for war

Q:Though some of them tried to spin it differently.

A:This was worse than the Gulf of Tonkin.

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/02/14/chrismatthews/index.html
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:10 PM
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55. I didn't anything very strong in that. I have never been a Matthews fan but saw enough of him
kissing bush administration ass to make me sick. Of course I am glad he appears to be on the good side, but we needed more from the media in the last eight years.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:51 PM
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49. Tweets certainly had his man-crush, but he was against the war all along. nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:14 PM
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18. It's not like he's come around or something.
When/if the time comes, he'll go back the other way.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:29 PM
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31. Better never late n/t
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:08 PM
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2. Codpiece before world peace.
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tangent90 Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:08 PM
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3. Let's use the time machine to kill him in 2002.
...
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:09 PM
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4. Come on.......
Lots of people swallowed the line and went along with it. Check out the votes in Congress just for the damnable Patriot Act.

At least Matthew is making amends and doing it publicly. I gotta give him big props for that.

Way to go, Tweety..............

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:12 PM
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12. See post 5
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:53 PM
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50. Tweets sucked up to Bush, for sure, but I rememebr his being against the *war*
even while everyone else was cheerleading for it.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:10 PM
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6. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:10 PM
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7. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:10 PM
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9. Twice
:P
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:29 PM
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43. LOL don't know how that happened, but I agree with you
much more than twice. At least a thousand times.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:11 PM
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10. Better late
than never. :shrug:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:11 PM
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11. See post 5
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:17 PM
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22. You're welcome to your anger, but it isn't worth much at this point, is it?
Let me know when it brings back one of those lives that was lost.

And I guess you don't cut Tweets any slack for being a major Obama cheerleader during the election cycle. Once mistaken, always mistaken, right? Perhaps Obama should give back the votes of the people who made the mistake of voting for bush once or even twice. After all, why would Obama want votes from people who have blood on their hands from supporting bush?

Linear thinking...which is surprising to hear coming from you.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:23 PM
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26. You're right. The war is over, isn't it.
Um.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:28 PM
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30. You call that a response?
Pretty disappointing, William, but it does open the door for me to imagine what you're thinking as you can't be bothered to address the points I raised in my response.

I guess you're saying Tweets is responsible for every death in the war in perpetuity, even though he changed his tune a while ago. I disagree.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:12 PM
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14. i'd rather punch frank gafney
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:13 PM
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15. Yep. He was a huge enabler... and he should own up to it.
It's insulting to see him just flip like that and pretend the past never happened.

:puke:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:13 PM
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16. He participated in the lies
He fanned the flames. And now he's checking his ratings to see where he should stand.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:15 PM
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19. Matthews is a weak reed that bends with the prevailing wind.
And a spine made of sponge.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:15 PM
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20. I get how it's good that he's finally mentioning it. But...
In my opinion he wouldn't be if the political wind hadn't shifted. Which doesn't bode well as to his integrity.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:22 PM
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25. Tweety's a finger in the wind kind of guy
But he's got blood on his hands, that's to be sure.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:26 PM
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29. I'm rather pleased that stuff like this is being discussed (I hope it continues) with
such anger and intensity - now that the evil little man is no longer Commander in Chief - and perhaps - maybe, just maybe - someday - not so impervious to all of this... So I'm happy it's being brought up again. And again. And again... and especially now that he's not protected by his criminal, dirty little vault-like bubble.

Never thought I'd say this, but... "Bring it on" seems rather apt at this point. Any of it. All of it. We can't forget what this monster did (we may have to deal with other, more critical stuff, like trying to mend our lives after his razing this country - and others), but we can't ever let it go. We really can't.

So I like hearing this stuff. As painful and infuriating as it is...

Oh heck, I'm actually really mad... I have to take a time out. : )
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:29 PM
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33. Tweety's a toady
Always has been, always will be. He sucks up to whomever is in power.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:32 PM
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34. Matthews is a slobbering loudmouth fool. nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:38 PM
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37. Corporate media hacks always want it THREE ways
Sign on to and magnify the lie early on, to help fill the bandwagon..(remember, GE is the parent company here, and jack Welch was wetting himself with excitement over the war)

Withhold certain "information", so they can include it in their book, which will be SOLD to the public, for their personal aggrandizement and financial gain.. They are paid by their parent organization when they are supposedly "covering" the issues, but all the while, they are holding back some juicy parts for their own book.

Finally, when the whole scam is exposed, they claim that they were "against x, y or z" all along, and then they embrace the opposite view, as if they held it all along..and maybe even write another book, about how misunderstood THEY are..

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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:39 PM
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38. But How do you really feel?
What's the word on the street? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:44 PM
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39. I would rather...
...punch Alex Trebek.

Of course, I still tune in every night even though I want to smack him.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:46 PM
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40. Right. After all that Tweety did for 8 years, I will not watch his show. Too
late here.

He is just changing with the political wind and that's not good enough.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:49 PM
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41. Indeed!
You were one of the first to inform the nation. Not enough people (in a position to act on the information) listened. :(

Though, I am glad that history is properly reflecting on the events leading up to the illogical, deadly debacle in Iraq.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:14 PM
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46. If it helps to stop the carnage I'll take his about face
he's getting heard and he's saying some good things now. I like people who aren't afraid in admitting a mistake, or will change their way of thinking when shown how something really is. I give him a pass because we need all the help we can get right now.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:20 PM
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47. Bush dissidence from the safety and comfort of an expired term
Way to stand up against the man Chris! You're a modern day Rosa Parks, if she sat in the fron of the bus after the Civil Rights Act of 1968 .
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:36 PM
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48. To set the record straight....
As I recall BEFORE the war Tweety was about the only talking head on the tube (after Donahue) who questioned at all the march to war.

It was some where between Shock and Awe and Mission Accomplished that he belatedly developed his man-crush on Commander Bunnypants.

Just trying to be fair here. I'm no fan of the evil Tweety.

Shock and Awe


Mission Accomplished
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:17 PM
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52. K&R
:thumbsup:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:28 PM
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53. I'm glad I am not the only one who feels like you do.
He is the hypocrites - hypocrite.

He makes me want to hurl.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:38 PM
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54. My husband was just saying something similar
great minds think alike . To quote him .

"what the hell is tweety doing on my T.V."
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:15 PM
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56. I approve this message...
add Scarborough,I want knock the hell out of him too..
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:18 PM
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57. Dumb post. And your responses to the "better late than never" are even dumber.
I suppose, no matter when/if someone comes around to agreeing with a certain point of view, if they didn't have it when YOU did, it's not good enough.

Fucking ridiculous.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:20 PM
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58. be careful, he's 6' 3''
should be good for some publicity, though.
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