Jon Stewart crossed the line last night.

[Rider Haggard]

He went from comedy/variety host to something new and entirely different.

He's something I haven't seen since Frost interviewed Nixon.

I think Jon crossed a line into history last night. That interview was part Beale, part Frost, part Rather and even part Cronkite. He had his facts, he held no quarter and he was cordial and polite. Jon was the penultimate television journalist Thursday evening. Yes, Jon crossed a line last night and I am unsure as to if I want him to cross back. His brilliant mind could be so well used in the venue it was employed with Cramer in so many ways but, god I would miss his comedic half hours four nights a week.

Whichever side of the line he stays or goes to I will be a fan and hope that he has as many years as possible on either or both sides.

[Dammit Ann]

1. I love trouble makers!

And, btw, HELL YES! Welcome to DU!

[Rider Haggard]

3. Thanks for the welcome.

You have the same first name as my ex had, dammit! :)

[Dammit Ann]

6. Sorry. love your name and yes, I get it.

cute.

[Rider Haggard]

7. God no!

I stole the name from the 19th C author who wrote pulp like King Salomon's Mines and such. However, haggard as an adjective would prove an interesting name as well. :)

[Dammit Ann]

11. O.K. maybe my mind sometimes goes to darker places than it should.

You were admirably quick to defend yourself. You will do well on DU. Being named Ann is not a character flaw, although, I do usually hold people accountable who innocently possess an ex's name. It's like a tick. You're completely natural in that, for sure. And I like the way you think. You definitely have found the right place in this little crazy, wonderful part of the world.

[Diclotican]

22. Rider Haggard

Rider Haggard

As in Haggard the terrible by Dick Brown? A comic stripe about a viking and what he is doing in his daily life?. In Norwigian he is named Hårrek den store. Or for short just Hårrek... A old norse hame, who in fact have their place in Snorre Sturlasons book from the 12 century

Diclotican

[buzzycrumbhunger]

26. LOL--you mean Hagar?

Sorry, but it's Hagar the Horrible by Dik Brown. (I think his son Chris still lives in the Sarasota area and did Hagar after his dad died, BTW. Both of them looked like the Viking IRL.) :hi:

But on topic, my son and I agreed way back during the interminable campaign season that Stewart was not just a mediocre comedian (mkay, his bit in Half Baked was funny), he's a really sharp, witty news guy who just hides behind comedy. Kind of a bastard child between Dick Cavett, David Frost, and Dennis Leary. Or sumpin'. Best political commentary in ages.

And all the other side gets is caustic, one-dimensional arseholes. Lawl.

[Diclotican]

69. buzzycrumbhunger

buzzycrumbhunger

Off course, it was Hagar the Horrible by Dick Brown;). Yes his son Cris is still painting the cartoon, but in the style of Dick Brown. And I have to say, he is still funny.. Even that the hunt for women and some others stuff, who raised some problems in the US are goon... The old Viking have been a good family father now, when he is not out and fighting dragons, or spaghetti that is:evilgrin: He is very fun of Paris, and Milan for some reason;)

Yes I believe also that Steward have used comedy, to hide behind when he in reality is a sharp man, who can make his point across many times.. He is an witty news man who have chosen to hide between the comedy, it have maybe been the only "allowed" way in the last 8 year or så, to get the american public to know that you are been fucked over again, and again, and again without been detected by the "patriot police" on the far right side... The others who have tried to get the information across the table have many times been stabbed in the back by the "loyalist" and more or less been told to leave or be fired by they who own the media utless.. US MEDIA have been very blind the last 8 year, more or less brain dead if you ask Me.

Dciclotican

[Rider Haggard]

43. Close, he did write She: She Who Must be Obeyed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Rider_Haggard

[Hissyspit]

86. Someone actually made that into a movie with Peter Cushing and Ursula Andress

in 1965:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_(1965_film)

I saw it on TV late one:

[jhrobbins]

91. It's so schmaltzy - I love it. And the blond King guy is a beaut!!

[Jackpine Radical]

56. Well, I've read Snorri, but haven't seen the cartoon på norsk.

So I had no clue that he had been transformed into Hårrek den store.

Anyway, I assumed you got your name from H. Rider Haggard.

[Diclotican]

70. Jackpine Radical

Jackpine Radical

I thing I got the thing wrong.. It was Hagard the terrible who i was thingking about;): Not H. Rider Haggard... I was tired haven't sleep all night, so I guess I got the name wrong...

But Hagard the terrible, are translated into Norwigian on a more or less regular basis, and have the name Hårrek;).. After a caracter in Snorre..

Diclotican

[Jackpine Radical]

77. I understood--thought you were making a joke re: Hagar/Haggard.

A deliberate "confusion."

[Diclotican]

83. Jackpine Radical

Jackpine Radical

No, not a deliberate coonfusion at all I am sorry to say, Just a dam bad "translating" in my head...

And Hagar the terrible are in fact written in "nynorsk" not in Bokmål, but is still funny to read;):. In a population of mer 4.6 million we have tree public languages.. Bokmål, nynorsk and sami in the north... Not bad for a small country like Norway? It have for the most part something with the history of norway the last 1000 year or so..

Diclotican

[Tangerine LaBamba]

52. You forgot his first initial

H. Rider Haggard, he of King Solomon's Mines.

I had a college professor named Hugh E. Haggard. Close................

[Rider Haggard]

65. Well, I read a bio of him and found out that he went by Rider

and not Henry. There's a great bio of him by D.S. Higgins for those out there interested in 19th C English writers called Rider Haggard, A Biography.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

68. Yet, his books are all written by

"H. Rider Haggard."

So, you're just his good buddy?

Gocha............

[Rider Haggard]

71. That's the way he signed them.

And most of his correspondence.

I think I'm probably one of twelve people that have ever read his bios and diaries... So I guess I have way too much time on my hands. :)

BUT! I'm not the only one to leave off the H.! http://www.amazon.com/WOODVILLE-CLEOPATRA-THEATRE-RIDER-HAGGARD/dp/B001MXBBX4/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1236984495&sr=8-11

[Tangerine LaBamba]

72. Good for you.....

I daresay there aren't very many folks - outside of the academe - who would even recognize his works, let alone his name.

Well done, pal.

:toast:

[jhrobbins]

93. I almost changed my nick in January to Lamont Cranston.

But I daresay that it is not as obscure as H. Rider Haggard.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

101. The Shadow

would have known..................

[jhrobbins]

105. Hehe.

[hyphenate]

87. I enjoyed Haggard's work

for many years when I was younger, and was often told his books were for "boys." Strange that all the "boys" books were filled with action, interesting subjects and fun, while all the "girls" books were far more limited in both scope and thrilling aspects. I was quite happy to tell some of these people that I could read whatever I wanted to, and to stop trying to control my reading material!

I still harbor ill will against the 1985 version of the movie with Sharon Stone and Richard Chamberlain. They made a mockery of everything Harrard wrote.

[jamesatemple]

73. Funny! I heard of

a guy named Hugh G. Rection. As I understand it, he was quite popular with the ladies. I suppose a good name will do wonders for a person.

[valerief]

79. I put a character named Hugh Jorgen in one of my novels.

And, yes, his name was not false advertising.

[liberalpress]

103. And not to mention

Heywood Jablome

[jhrobbins]

90. I really get pissed when I hear people say, 'Yeah, he's really funny

but he's not that smart'. They should be so lucky to have a fraction of his intellect. I bring this up because I have actually heard people saying this of late.

[GreenTea]

2. Jon did a great job-And the line needed to be "crossed" If indeed one needs to calcualte it that way

Comedy Central - I laughed and enjoyed the truth for a change, how 'bout you?

[opihimoimoi]

4. Nothing like a Knight weilding a Sharp Sword of TRUTH....cuts through BS like butter

[L. Coyote]

78. Ditto. He gets it.

[Heidi]

5. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Squatch]

8. "Penultimate" = second to last

...fixed

[Rider Haggard]

10. Frost.

But we don't get to see that much of Sir David lately.

Or possibly the Woodward from the Watergate days.

[tkmorris]

12. Actually it's "second to last"

Either way, obviously it wasn't the word the OP intended. No shame in that really, stuff happens.

[Rider Haggard]

13. You're right.

I used the word improperly. Through my own misunderstanding of it... Damn, I've used it improperly for quite a while and thanks, I hope others weren't being polite and just misheard in my previous usages of the word.

Good on you!

[TexasObserver]

16. it's a word whose usage has led many to that mistake

We all learned the proper usage the same way - the way you did.

So don't sweat it.

[lumberjack_jeff]

40. Thanks, I learn something every day.

I've misused the word the same way that the OP did. But not any more! With God as my witness, never again shall anyone cast asparagus on my use of language!

[Rockholm]

66. Luckily he did not spell anything wrong.

Then the spelling police come out with their tasers.

[PCIntern]

29. You ain't the only one...

I considered myself quite literate when I wa a kid...read a lot...miused the words 'genuflect' 'penultimate', 'sacrosanct', all to great embarassment...

sort of like the guy who thought the Beatles song was "State Trooper, One way ticket, yeah" (Day Tripper)

[liberalpress]

104. Actually "second to last" in Vaudeville

was the best spot on the show to be. You were in fact, the opening act for the show closer, the one everyone came to see, and you had to "warm up" the audience for that act.

[HughMoran]

89. Penultimate - adj - Coming next-to-last in a sequence.

- Coming next-to-last in a sequence.

In a sequence of events, the penultimate event is the one that precedes the final event.

[Political Heretic]

9. I'm sorry but he did it long before last night.

I know that Jon himself has said many times that he considers himself an entertainer first and foremost, but he has also acknowledged his role as a critic of the media. He has been delivering some of the best and most honest critiques of our corporate/media nightmare for years.

Hopefully you remember his role in effectively ending CNN's Crossfire, and his role in terminally wounding Tucker Carlson's career.

I appreciate the broader point you are making though - Jon is representative of a unique new journalism. Under the mask of "comedy" he has become this generations Edward R. Murrow.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

53. He's a hybrid,

something that's not been seen before. The comparisons to Frost aren't quite accurate, since Frost wasn't much more than a variety show host, with very little of his own act to his credit. He mostly introduced people and had a talk show that was carried, more or less, by the guests.

Stewart, first and foremost, knows how to handle himself in close situations, but, don't forget - he has brilliant writers and he did a lot of stand-up, which is great training for what he did with Cramer. Keep in mind, though, that everything that was said last night had been, for the most part, scripted. And that's the work of the writers. Stewart's delivery was dead on, and his own sophistication, intelligence, and sharp wit kept the pitch so high even dogs couldn't hear it.

But, as for him being of Murrow's caliber - no. I remember Murrow, and he was, first and foremost, a reporter. Back then, they were called "reporters," before the much fancier "journalist" became the buzzword. Murrow did his own legwork, and wrote his own copy. Stewart works with a team.

That's a huge difference that even Jon Stewart would agree to, I believe.

[bigbrother05]

63. Frost was on "That Was The Week That Was"

TW3 was the Daily Show of the Kennedy years. Originally on the BBC then came to the states. Basic format was a pseudo news program taking potshots at the powerful with kind of a Laugh-In quality. That it didn't last more than a couple of seasons in each incarnation is more a reflection of TV network policy than the quality of the show.

That he eventually became Sir David lays down a marker for Jon.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

64. TW3 was hilarious

They paved the way for Monty Python, but they went away too quickly. Yes, they were 'way ahead of the times, what they were doing and saying. Much the same as with Tom Lehrer, whose retirement was, sadly, occasioned by the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to Henry Kissinger.

But, as for the kind of talent needed to do what Jon Stewart does - no, Frost never had it. They're in two different worlds, in that respect, and even at his best, Front was a sorry and far second to Stewart.

Well, we all know how the knighthood business works, don't we? Comparable to how it's done for the Hollywood Walk of Fame.....

[jhrobbins]

94. My partner and I have had this discussion many,many times about the effectiveness

of John's humor. We think it stems from the fact that, first, John is always dead on in his assessment and second, when delivered in a humorous way, it is very difficult to retaliate without looking like an ass that's retaliating. It's generally a lose/lose situation for the attackee. If they respond they look like they are arguing and being mean when john was just being 'funny' and yet if they don't, they look like wuss'. It's perfect and that's why I think many comedians are such effective 'pundits', if you will.

[chknltl]

14. If rush limbaugh is the new spokesman for......

the republican party, may I be the first one to nominate Jon Stewart as the spokesman for the Peoples Party? Yeah, I know, I was supposed to say the Democratic Party this being the Democratic Underground after-all but imo Mr. Stewert speaks for more than just us Dems!
Welcome to the DU Rider Haggard

[Dammit Ann]

15. LOOK at you! Brand new and on the Greatest!

You should be proud, it's a tough audience. Keep 'em coming, we love a good voice!

[Divine Discontent]

92. agreed, it is tough to get on the front page, I've done it maybe 6-10 times, and I'm not trying, but

the point is, you have to be writing something that is relevant and/or inspiring to be getting your comments on there, and to have under 50 posts and get a 100 recs is AWESOME - they should be proud. They spoke something that really makes a lot of us say, "yep!"

Nice of you to congratulate them...

[kstewart33]

17. Welcome to DU. Keep posting! eom

[mod mom]

18. It reminded me of when he took down Tucker & Paul Begala on Crossfire!

[Olney Blue]

19. Good post. Welcome to DU!

[hlthe2b]

20. Not new for Stewart-- did you not see his CNN takedown ...

specifcally-Crossfire-- several years ago. A thing of beauty....

[Vinca]

21. We need to nominate Stewart for the next Edward R. Morrow Award.

http://www.rtnda.org/pages/media_items/edward-r.-murrow-awards100.php

[NNN0LHI]

23. Nope

He did it to CNN back in 2004.

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/01/4509.ars

Jon Stewart wins, CNN cancels Crossfire

CNN has canceled Crossfire, and the president of the network gives proper respect to Jon Stewart's chastising of the show. And Tucker needs a new bridge to live under.

By Ken Fisher | Last updated January 6, 2005 2:37

Ken Fisher

In the middle of October, Jon Stewart took his usual complaints about partisan hackery to his appearance on CNN's Crossfire (transcript here | streaming video here). From the beginning of the discussion, Stewart took aim at Crossfire and other media shows, saying (at first with a smile) that they "hurt America" by making politicians' lives easier by failing to "hold their feet to the fire." The gist of Stewart's complaint was that shows that were purportedly "hard" and "cutting" were really only theatrical performances of talking points and sensationalism. The incident is now famous, and little needs to be said about it. I'm following up that story because it was so popular when we ran it before.

Today CNN announced that they are nixing Crossfire, and dropping their relationship with one of the show's "commentators" (I use that word lightly), Tucker Carlson (who claims that he actually quit months ago). CNN's new President, Jonathan Klein, said that he agreed with much of Stewart's indictments against the media. So sayeth the New York Times:

Mr. Klein specifically cited the criticism that the comedian Jon Stewart leveled at "Crossfire" when he was a guest on the program during the presidential campaign. Mr. Stewart said that ranting partisan political shows on cable were "hurting America." Mr. Klein said last night, "I agree wholeheartedly with Jon Stewart's overall premise." He said he believed that especially after the terror attacks on 9/11, viewers are interested in information, not opinion.

[KharmaTrain]

24. Not Frost...Murrow

Frost was able to get Nixon to admit his crimes years after the fact. Stewart did a Murrow. His dressing down of Greed Central and Cramer was equivelent to Murrow taking on Joe McCarthy and his exposure of the "red scare". While Murrow didn't say it, last night, Jon had a "sir, do you have no decency" moment.

Yes, he crossed a line that was desperately needed. It's been a long time since we've experienced a moment of such candor and straight talk. Jon wasn't the first. There are many others out there who said the same thing, but they didn't have a national TV show with a large audience to expose. The corporate media was also exposed...being both negligent in holding their own accountable and ignoring a story that had a profound effect on millions.

Thank goodness Jon has the cajones to go over that line...and a shame on the many corporate "journalists" who knew what was happening and either were intimidated or just plain lazy to expose such a big scam.

Cramer tried to show decency...and I give him props for taking this trashing like a man, but will others also eat crow or will Stewart become a target?

[mucifer]

25. Yeah and Stewart unlike Frost or Murrow got to drop the f bomb several times.

:)

[SidDithers]

30. "It's not a fucking game"...

was maybe the most important line of the night. Words have meaning, and sometimes the right expletive at the right time is just what's needed.

Sid

[ProfessorGAC]

32. Boy, Do I Agree With That, Sid!

His use of that expletive was perfect in its timing and power.
GAC

[eppur_se_muova]

75. Agreed. And not the first time the comparison has been valid. nt

[Shakespeare]

102. Not Frost or Murrow - Mike Wallace.

That interview was much in the tradition of Wallace on 60 Minutes in the 70s, when he was at his absolute toughest.

[BlooInBloo]

27. In the immortal words of Charlie Murphy: "He's a habitual line-stepper."

:rofl:

[Odin2005]

28. Jon's pwnage of Cramer was a thing of beauty!

That, my friends, was real journalism, not MSM crap.

[ProfessorGAC]

31. Your Title Got My Back Up

But, then i read your post. Nice one! And welcome to DU.
GAC

[SidDithers]

33. Good post and welcome to DU!...nt

Sid

[annabanana]

34. His "court jester" status enables him to be far more forward in his

accusations then being a "journalist" as it is currently defined by the media that we have...

[Rider Haggard]

35. I think Cramer knew what was going to happen.

I'll tip my hat to Cramer in that "he took it like a man."

He didn't whine and never tried the same excuse twice.

[annabanana]

36. he's very nervous... some of the info in those clips is actionable..

"the SEC doesn't understand"

[pepperbear]

37. Jon was the second to last journalist thursday evening? n/t

[Rider Haggard]

38. Yes, I used the wrong word.

And should be chastised for it. :)

Doh!

[DrZeeLit]

39. I read Alessandra Stanley in the NYT today, writing about Stewart/Cramer. She really thinks

Cramer will be the "winner" and that Stewart was out of line.

Where the HELL do these people live that they do NOT know how ANGRY the American Public is????
Every show, except KO and Rachel, seems to be in some la la land where any minute everything is gonna be all right.
Or... everything isn't at all bad. OR... we're all just buttoned down and nodding an affirmative to the Repub "No" Machine.

Doesn't Ms. Stanley (I'll go check her name again after I post, because I'm having crashing problems if I move from tab to tab on my browser)(yep, it's Stanley)(she's been a t.v. critic for the NYT for ages, but she's a stuffed shirt)....
Doesn't she READ the polls?
They just don't believe that we are all TOTALLY PISSED OFF, do they?
They're all tsk-tsking about Madoff and all the poor billionaires/millionaires who lost their shirts with this guy, when MILLIONS of regular ol' hardworking (not to disparage millionaires and billionaires who work, but..) people HAVE LOST JOBS and HOMES and RETIREMENT and HEALTH CARE and COLLGE FUNDS and SAVINGS.

Thank goodness for Jon Stewart and his platform -- somebody has to say it...THEY ARE CRIMINALS. Somebody has to pull the veil off the mannequin and give us the truth!!

These shows and these politicians who think we're all just waiting for the stock market to go up and we'll get back to the malls and our little lives... whoa, they have to wake up. They really have to wake up.

[dana_b]

42. hmmm... maybe you

(and I) should let Ms. Stanley know what you think. I agree- these people want us to hush and play nice. B.S! That's what got us here in the first place.

edit*
Okay - so I just wrote a silly comment:
Ms. Stanley,
What you failed to state is that although Jon Stewart is primarily a comedian, he is also the only one in the media with the guts to say anything to these “entertainment” money shows or hold any of them accountable. No one else of “real” journalistic integrity has done so. Why is that? People have put their faith in these unscrupulous buffoons and have lost a lot. Everyone is focusing on Madoff and his victims, but what about the millions across the country who don’t have millions of dollars but who have lost their jobs, 401Ks, almost everything they have? They are MAD and these people handing out unsound advice need to be held responsible for what they say. Especially those with very large audiences. “In Cramer We Trust” - puhleeze… he did NOT win the war last night, Ms Stanley, and it shouldn’t be a case of them against us.

[DrZeeLit]

62. AWESOME! That's terrific! I love it! You are my hero!!!!! xoxoxox

[Cleita]

41. Yes, he showed the "real" journalists how to do it.

After a day of frustration watching the news actors interview Republican politicos, allowing them to lie and obfuscate without challenging them with the follow up questions to make them explain what they claim to get at the truth, what Jon did made me want to have his baby. There were a couple of extra follow-up questions I would have asked but he did a brilliant job nonetheless.

[tblue37]

44. "Penultimate" means "second to last." "Antepenultimate" means third to last. nt

[Rider Haggard]

45. I now know.....

Please people, forgive me. I used the word incorrectly.

I'm beginning to feel like Cramer in a room full of Jon Stewarts because of that damned choice of a word. :)

[tblue37]

48. That's OK--but I am a college English teacher, and I see it a dozen times a term in students'

essays.

BTW, I also thought you'd like to have the word "antepenultimate" as part of the set, which is the only reason I chimed in.

[ret5hd]

106. What about peoples use of the word "decimated"?

[grantcart]

58. basically only people who study Greek, Latin or some other language that

need it for accenting on syllables know what it means.

You should have said that you are expecting Jon to climb to even higher sites, lol.

[Motown_Johnny]

46. he has been doing this for years... he killed the CNN show Crossfire when he took it on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

[stanwyck]

55. One of my all time favorite clips, along with

Colbert's speech at the Washington correspondent's dinner. Tucker Carlson has never receovered from Jon Stewart's criticisms. Carlson's career arc took a swift turn downward in a matter of minutes.
Now, let's get Rush in front of Stewart or Colbert and let his fans see their emperor has no clothes. Yikes. That's an ugly visual.

[Motown_Johnny]

111. i would love for one of them to accept Rush's debate invitation, on behalf of our President

But I think it better be Stewart, Colbert always uses sarcasm and Rush won't understand WTF he is trying to say

[BrklynLiberal]

47. I hope he continues to demonstrate both sides of his persona.

[Sebastian Doyle]

49. God bless Jon Stewart, but isn't it telling of how pathetic the media is in the US today

When you get a more realistic analysis of the news from a comedian on Comedy Central than on any of the actual news programs (with the possible exception of MSNBC's evening lineup)

[misanthrope]

51. YES! That's the saddest aspect of all this...

...I think part of the decline of newspapers has been fueled by the public's shrinking respect for modern journalism. People are just tired of the bullshit, the obfuscation and journalists putting personal glory above journalistic ideals.

The Fourth Estate has failed due to corruption on both personal and institutional levels.

[DCKit]

50. Unlike the MSM talking heads, it doesn't seem that Jon "prepares" by huffing hairspray...

before every show. He's also got one hell of a talented staff of writers and producers who support what he does. The whole concept of the show is pretty damn subversive - at least when compared to the MSM model.

TDS was one of very few bashing *, his maladministration, the Republic Congress, Wall St. and the banks before it was cool anywhere but DU. In fact, back when I was watching regularly, it seemed many of the daily topics were exactly the things being discussed right here.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

54. I thought of Frost too

Frost like Jon Stewart was not a "serious journalist" - he was more a proto-Larry King at that time than anything else, but somebody incredibly rising to the occasion.

[sazemisery]

57. He did the same thing when he was on Crossfire

If you had not seen this, here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

[liberal N proud]

59. He is now a comedic JOURNALIST!

He is more of a journalist than any of the anchors on any of the networks with "real" news.

[Deep13]

60. Smart people are always funny.

Ever notice how conservatives have no sense of humor?

[stlsaxman]

61. Truly, Stewart was Moyeresque!

welcome to DU.

[Evoman]

67. Yeah, but the more "hard" he gets, the more the people he needs to confront will avoid him.

Thats the curse, and it's part of the reason the media is so fucked and allows shit to go past unquestioned. That's why you'll barely ever see the really powerful and important people on shows like Bill Maher. The media goes easy on these people, and they keep access. They put on the pressure, they lose access.

Of course, when you have the truth on your side, maybe you don't need access. Good research is more important anyways. But repugs will probably now be more cautious about going on Stewarts show.

[and-justice-for-all]

74. Jon Stewart did us a great service!!! Cheers to him!!

:fistbump::applause:

[MadMaddie]

76. Stewart, Maddow and even Olbermann are

becoming forces to be reckoned with. They are forcing those that call themselves MSM to stand up and take notice.

Ha, ha..ha..:popcorn:

[Emillereid]

80. I was so afraid he was going to be a wuss - but HE WAS BRILLIANT!!

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

81. Remember Crossfire's demise?????

Cramer should have done his homework. He has no one to blame but himself.

[sce56]

82. Crossed what Line? I have been getting more real news from TDS for years now

Instead of Runaway bride or Octomom like you see highlighted on CNN, FAUX etc:

[WestSeattle2]

84. I'm totally with you...

About damn time someone grew a pair and said what needs to be said. Denying the obvious just focuses a laser on commercial news organization's lack of ethics and professional standards.

Sadly there are so few legitimate "news" organizations anymore (beholden to no one), that it does not surprise me in the least that the most honest "newscast" of the last eight years occurred on the Comedy Channel last evening.

[goclark]

85. Yea for Jon and D.L.

I am so tired of all these Andrea Mitchell and Mourning Joe clowns telling us what to think and how to think like they do ---

It is not rocket science to ask a question and keep at it in an honest way until you get closer to the truth.

Jon Steward and D.L. are doing a fantastic job - yes they are comedians but they are able to see the world with different eyes.

Go get um Jon and D.L.

:bounce:

[Blue Belle]

110. It's too bad DL got canceled.

I don't think they gave him enough time to pick up and audience.

[goclark]

112. I didn't know that- oh no!

:cry:

Do you think it is because he was getting too tough with his interviews?

[Blue Belle]

114. No. I think he just didn't have enough time to establish himself.

They did very little in terms of promoting his show. I think MSNBC should pick him up.

[goclark]

115. I hope MSNBC picks him up ~ he has really grown

and I like his style.

[Richard Steele]

88. Yes indeed. K&R

[JohnnyRingo]

95. So you're sayin' he wont get any more guests?

Actually, I'm saying that.
That's how it works in the cable news bubble. If you hold someone's feet to the fire, you'll be interviewing the OctoMom.

The pols will dodge your show like it's a time share seminar.
They'll avoid an appearance like Jared at an all night breakfast buffet.

There's a reason Rachel Maddow can't get a guest from the opposition party, and now Stewart will settle for the company of no one to the right of Michael Moore.

I don't like the way that works, but even I, as a democrat steeped in liberal values, wouldn't go on Hannity's show if he donated $1,000 to MoveOn.org in Alec Baldwin's name.

That's just how it works these days, and I for one can live with liberal guests on The Daily Show

[upi402]

96. He was the adult to the bratty TV News hairdo's before

Sad that it takes a comedian to tell truth to power. There are others who are just as patriotic, but not near enough to save this country.

[BobTheSubgenius]

97. I guess I'm a bit of an apostate here.

First....let me say that I can't get enough Jon Stewart. I think he's brilliant, funny, and has genuine humility that's sometimes disguised as "Hollywood Humble," but it's really there. I think I was the only person that actually watched his talk show, too.

So, this is not at all about JS and his performance. He was articulate, stuck to his message and was civil to boot. I just think that Cramer didn't come off as bad as people would like to have seen, at least in his "performance." True, some of that tape from 2006 was pretty hard to explain away, though. In fact, I don't think enough was made of the cynicism it must take to not only think that way, but to say it out loud.

However, I also don't think for one minute that he is the biggest villain in this whole clusterfuck, and he deserves at least a few props for having the jam to show up and take what he must have known was coming. He took it with some measure of dignity and didn't try to bluster his way out of it at all.

Clearly, YMMV.

[opihimoimoi]

98. He is cutting edge stuph,,,able to leap tall opponents in a single laff.

Cutting Edge Stuphs is 10X more Powerful than regular "Stuffs"

Jon is the New Kid on the Block in a Profound way....From Silliness Reality to Series Correctional Journalism...Result...the Peeps are Ecstatically happy

OMG...who woulda thought....the Mighty Pub Party brought down by Comedians and a Variety Show

[Brucie Kibbutz]

99. "penultimate" journalist?

He's the next to last journalist? :shrug:

[orleans]

100. damn--an hour too late to recommend! well, i'm here in spirit. n/t

[zomgidiftl]

107. I say that it was totally overrated; Stewart is the Ray Romano of politcal humor:

pleasant but not offensive. Predigested for the masses and the intellectuals who enjoy mild humor. Me? I am more into the edgy comics like Bill Maher and Chris Rock. They aren't always politically correct, but they push the envelope.

That so-called ambush was a whole lot of nothing.

[sad sally]

108. As Jon Stewart said at the end of his Thurs. show

maybe now he can get back to making funny faces and fart noises:)

[ihavenobias]

109. K & R n/t

[Wetzelbill]

113. Welcome to DU!