Which Comes Closer to Your Definition of Someone Being Stupid?

[Uncle Joe]

Poll question: Which Comes Closer to Your Definition of Someone Being Stupid?

*My definition of ignorant in this poll would be for anyone not knowing a subject and knowing they don't know and for anyone not knowing a subject and not knowing they don't know.

**My definition for subject or issue could literally be anything ie: english, literature, philosophy, cooking, mechanics, carpentry, it could be something as complex as Quantum Physics or as simple as tying your shoes.













P.S. For anyone to kick this thread by posting that the thread or poll is stupid, what does that say about you?

[ThomWV]

1. I live in a community with certifiably one of the worst education systems in the country

And I can tell you there is no humor in smart people who have no factual knowledge. However it really doesn't make any difference what their IQ is, if they have been taught nothing then they are just butt-ugly stupid.

[masuki bance]

2. Kicking for teh stupid.

[sammythecat]

3. .

Someone who is ignorant is just that. Ignorance is does not indicate any particular level of intelligence. Isaac Newton was extremely intelligent while being ignorant of relativity or the existence of Mt Everest.

To say someone is stupid because they are ignorant is, in most cases, a stupid thing to say.

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. There's a difference between "ignorance" and "stupidity".

Many people use the words interchangeably, but they really aren't.

I can't cut someone's skull open and perform brain surgery. On the other hand, there may be a neurosurgeon somewhere who can't figure out why his computer isn't functioning correctly.

Neither of us would be stupid, yet both might be "ignorant" when it comes to the knowledge necessary to solve the given problem.

[Warpy]

5. Ignorance and stupidity are two different things

Ignorance can be fixed by education.

Stupidity is forever.

[Uncle Joe]

7. Who determines what is forever? n/t

[KittyWampus]

20. Ignorance presupposes a lack of curiosity and unwillingness to investigate. Ignorance is a choice

One CHOOSES to ignore evidence and prefers to remain in the dark.

So the difference, semantically, would be a question of one's personal Will and Discrimination.

[Warpy]

22. It can also be a lack of opportunity

and it can always be fixed. The incurious can be motivated, although it's difficult. The ones without opportunity can be given some.

[Posteritatis]

6. Stupidity = Ignorance that's maintained in the face of evidence (nt)

[L. Coyote]

8. Indeed. Invading Iraq was stupid.

[Uncle Joe]

9. Does that make Bush stupid? n/t

[L. Coyote]

14. Stupid is as stupid does.

[Uncle Joe]

19. Did Bush truly invade Iraq,

or did he just send American troops to invade it?

Bush, Cheney etal and their corporate masters/cronies made a fortune off the American People.

It seems to me, when we label Bush as being stupid, this gives him a sociological "Of Mice and Men" out for his actions.

Oh Bush didn't mean to invade Iraq, it was just an accident because he's stupid, we don't usually allow him out of the back room when polite company comes. He didn't mean to ignore reading his Presidential Daily Briefing PDB, he confused it with that chocolate powder drink because he's stupid. Bush didn't mean to disband hundreds of thousands of armed Iraqis making them unemployed while allowing Baghdad to be looted, he just didn't know any better because he's stupid. That's why Bush had to explode the national debt paying exorbitant amounts of money to private corporations like Black Water and Halliburton, it was all due to his stupidity. It was only due to Bush's stupidity that the American People were dis-empowered from their government by his shifting a disproportionate amount of power from the judiciary and legislative branch to the executive, President Obama will probably reverse 80-90 percent of Bush's program, so Bush's stupidity will only grant him and his masters a 10-20% return on their corruption of the Constitution.

[mikehiggins]

10. George Bush n/t

[MorningGlow]

11. Stupid = people who don't know and don't WANT to know

And then decide to expound on the subject, at great length, anyway.

[lunatica]

13. Also people who know they're ignorant and proudly flaunt it

[BlooInBloo]

18. It's typical of Americans.

EDIT: The OP is, in fact, a thinly-veiled example.

[lunatica]

12. You gave so many hints as to what you meant that only the truly stupid....

[MercutioATC]

15. Your definitions confused me. Guess I'm a 1...

...errr, or is that a 2?

[omega minimo]

17. Yer not stupid or you wouldn't be confused!!

:yoiks: (Homer Simpson whisper): Read #12!!

[Uncle Joe]

21. I've seen too many posters label one D.U,er or another as being

stupid either directly or indirectly "the stupid hurts" etc. I believe this is arrogant, spiteful, short term thinking and in the long run will only contribute to a perception of which the Republicans wish to label the Democrats as being.

In short I believe the term and use of the word stupid is abused to our detriment.

[omega minimo]

16. Neither. Stupid is being smart enough to know better and doing the worst anyway