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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:01 AM
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My mom just received this forwarded email from an asshat I've tangled with before....
I want the smackdown that I will send to everyone on his silly distribution list to be mega awesome

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:


You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

Boy am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.ht...

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h...

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. (This equates to $1.1 Billion per year.)
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h...

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h...

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h...



10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.h...

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation....


13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:03 AM
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1. Ask him if he'll mow your lawn.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:03 AM
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2. The irony is that illegal immigration is down something like 20%.
They don't want to come here any more because there are no jobs here.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 03:25 PM
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19. What's really interesting about this
Is that one wants to ask them - which would you rather have, a bad economy or illegal aliens?

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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:04 AM
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3. I'd put something in about...
Haliburton and how they sent our troops rotten food and showers that electrocuted them.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:06 AM
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4. OMG, he sites rense.com!
And a whole bunch of other far right drink tanks. I'd try Snopes, but hell, even Google would bring up sources that would shoot all that crap down, or at least give you some sort of frame of reference for those figures by citing others in comparison.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:10 AM
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6. Well obviously this asshat did not write it, he is just forwarding it, but it's all over
wingnuttery land

I'm starting with this and going to use the Powell Doctrine

About $700 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office, has been appropriated from the 2003-09 fiscal years. Taking into account operations for fiscal year 2010, the price tag is about $800 billion.

And although the rate of U.S. deaths has slowed since a spike in 2007, it has added up over six years.

According to CNN's count, as of March 12, 4,259 Americans have been killed in the war since it started on March 19, 2003.

Need some data on churn & burn costs to equipment, and care for wounded troops, and lifetime care for just Iraq soldiers, I want to try t keep Afghanistan out of it.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:08 AM
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5. This shit again. "Iraq doesn't cost too much because we spend money in other places."
Weak.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:14 AM
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7. Most of the links didn't work.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:22 AM
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9. One problem is there's an extra "." in cis.org
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:56 AM
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13. If I have the energy and desire I can try to refute the e-mail.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:20 AM
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8. Several of those are duplicates of the same thing.
But it should still be a simple matter to add up all of those numbers as show that all of them combined are not as much as the war.
Sun Tzu said you must not have a protracted war because it destroys the economy of the country waging the war. In his day, soldiers were eating rice, instead of being home growing rice.You can't keep that up forever.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:24 AM
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10. Reply All
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:32 AM
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11. There is no public aid
to illegal aliens. All you have to do to find out is to call DSS and ask. I guess that's asking too much of them.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 11:29 AM
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16. They don't go to school?
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:56 AM
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12. I think right wing think tanks pay people to put together
emails like this one that they send to ignorant people so that these ignorant people will vote for politicians who are in the pockets of the super rich.

Because of the bad economy, the number of illegal aliens is going down.

But the top 1% don't want to pay their fair share of taxes. They have gotten richer and richer under W, while the middle class has gotten poorer and poorer.

But instead of having the good sense to see that a strong middle class is good for the U.S. and ultimately for them, they just want to keep their riches while forcing the middle class to cough up the money to fund the military and the roads and all the benefits that his country gives the top 1%.

That's why you hear the mouthpieces for the corporations on the corporate owned TV programs constantly say that Obama is raising taxes. Obama is cutting taxes for 95% of the people. But you don't hear that. And Obama is just going to let W's tax breaks for the top 1% expire. He's not adding new taxes to them.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 11:01 AM
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14. I've gotten that email a couple times myself
I doubt that anything you say will have any effect other than to send the damn thing out across the "internet tubes" again. I'd bout bet money you won't change anyones mind.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 03:19 PM
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17. I realize that, but the asshat who originates it gets egg on his face when a thinking American who a
response (me) comes off looking better than he does.

The asshats that send these send them to a lot of apolitical people
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 11:11 AM
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15. Tell them to let all the immigrants out.
They'll all go home because there are no jobs.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 03:22 PM
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18. Your mom knows Lou Dobbs?
:rofl: :rofl:

Illegal aliens cost even more than the Iraq war? :rofl: How could we afford the war to begin with then, Lou? Already bankrupted by illegal aliens! :rofl:

The poor, poor U.S.! Uses up disproportionately more of the resources of the world than any other country, spends more on military than most other countries combined, yet is still so victimized by illegal border crossers who pick lettuce and clean building! :rofl: :rofl:

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 03:31 PM
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20. LOL - the email is Lou Dobb's porn.
:rofl:
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