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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:33 PM
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Glenn Beck is batshit insane.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/3/15/105724/472/86/708765

FOX News personality, Glenn Beck, has been using his airtime to broadcast a right-wing conspiracy theory about the Obama administration setting up 'concentration camps,'part of a secret plot to establish totalitarian rule. Curiously, Beck's criticism of President Obama's economic policies seems to have been ripped directly from the plot of FOX TV's past hit series The X-Files (1993-2002) and the films based on the series (1998, 2008).

While Beck claims he is not 100% certain that the camps exist, he has proclaimed repeatedly that the Obama administration's economic policies are pushing the country into "totalitarianism' and that he "cannot debunk" the existence of the camps, which are supposedly being set up under the auspice of the Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA), but which Beck claims will be used soon for mass imprisonment of American citizens with right-leaning political views.

In a recent spot on FOX and friends, Beck claimed that he had conducted "research on" the so called concentration camps being built by the Obama WH as part of a conspiracy to establish totalitarian rule in America and the he could not "debunk them." According to Beck, "If you ave any fear that we might be heading toward a totalitarian state, look out. There is something happening in our country and it ain't good."

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f03zZA___Ho

Beck's conspiracy theory appears to be lifted directly from FOX Searchlight's 1998 movie The X-Files. In the film, a character named Alvin Kurtzweil (Martin Landau), warns FBI agent Fox Mulder (David Duchovny) about plans by FEMA to manufacture a federal emergency as a pretext for extending martial law, mass imprisonment, and totalitarian rule, thereby allowing a group of interplanetary aliens to take over the world.

One video expounding on the X-Files theory of FEMA concentration camps, which was posted to YouTube in mid-2006, has been watched almost one million times. The theory Glenn Beck is pushing is a version of the X-Files plot adapted to support Beck's argument against the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act passed recently by the Obama administration.

So far, no major news network has pointed out Beck's appropriation of the X-Files plot or his obvious use of them to spread fear of a totalitarian conspiracy under the guise of a critiquing President Obama's economic policies.
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:34 PM
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1. As someone said on DK, "The stupid is out there." n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:34 PM
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2. The camps were built under BushCo, not Obama
so it's typical rethug projection...again, again, again...
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:36 PM
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3. Precisely. n/t
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:37 PM
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6. yeah, my thought too
all those things he's saying will happen with obama, were my fears under bush. and there is that camp in texas.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:45 PM
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9. Yeah! He's stealing our material!
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 04:47 PM by backscatter712
the KBR FEMA camps were supposed to be used to put all us liberal unlawful enemy combatants away!

Yeah, you're right - the Rethugs are projecting big-time! They need a shrink and some lithium!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:36 PM
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4. I'm pretty sure these concentration camps already exist.
But I think they're run by Homeland Security and house illegal immigrants.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:02 PM
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16. Run by FEMA, I believe
which is under Homeland Security? (I'm not sure).
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:09 PM
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19. Oh, yeah. Same thing.
I had forgotten.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:22 PM
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33. It's the Federal Homeland Emergency Security Management Adminstration
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 06:22 PM by Canuckistanian
Otherwise known as "FHESMA".

Hey, give them a break. It's not easy to come up with an acronym that rolls easily off the tongue.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:36 PM
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5. Rex 87
We were talking about it during the Bush years, they were talking about it during the Clinton years.

Seriously, someone should tear down those camps - someone could get hurt
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:39 PM
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7. This black helicopter bullshit mushroomed under Clinton, too
Not sure whether it got TV airtime, though, other than (intentionally) fictional shows like The X-Files.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:42 PM
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8. OMG...if it was ponly true we get rid of the Wormers
Those Pesky Idiots who bore holes in good ideas and concepts pertaining to Fairness and Benevolency.....we don't need trouble makers....
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kywildcat Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:46 PM
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10. another drug adled idiot allowed to
pollute the public airwaves-and someone SPONSORS...PAYS...ENABLES... his drug adled meanderings.
Nice.
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:47 PM
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11. Last year, he said the Rapture was coming in a few days
It's not as detailed an argument as your admirable post and I didn't put into it nearly the effort you did, but I think it makes the same point. :evilgrin:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:48 PM
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12. Weren't he and Chuck Norris supposed to take over the country on Friday?
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:20 PM
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32. I guess the Illuminati got in their way. nt
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 04:50 PM
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13. Glen Beck is Art Bell in drag......nt
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:00 PM
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14. actually it has been me advocating that... for years.. link>>
it is actually a Posit, on reflection. to stimulate discussion, not that it can actually be done. so we are screwed.!

my previous post...

"Conservatives" are unfortunately Born that way.. it isn't a Choice, they lack Fluidity in their thinking, QUITE POSSIBLY /obviously/ because of Organic physical deficiencies in essential cognitive structures of their brain.

my personal view of this subject..if we cant legislate out the Phenomenological IRON LAW OF OLIGARCHY http://bitbucket.icaap.org/dict.pl?alpha=1
"snip...ON LAW OF OLIGARCHY First defined by German sociologist Robert Michels (1876-1936), this refers to the inherent tendency of all complex organizations, including radical or socialist political parties and labour unions, to develop a ruling clique of leaders with interests in the organization itself rather than in its official aims. These leaders, Michels argued, came to desire leadership and its status and rewards more than any commitment to goals. Inevitably, their influence was conservative, seeking to preserve and enhance the organization and not to endanger it by any radical action. Michels based his argument on the simple observation that day-to-day running of a complex organization by its mass membership was impossible. Therefore, professional full-time leadership and direction was required. In theory the leaders of the organization were subject to control by the mass membership, through delegate conferences and membership voting, but, in reality, the leaders were in the dominant position. They possessed the experience and expertise in running the organization, they came to control the means of communication within the organization and they monopolized the public status of representing the organization. It became difficult for the mass membership to provide any effective counterweight to this professional, entrenched, leadership. Michels also argued that these inherent organizational tendencies were strengthened by a mass psychology of leadership dependency, he felt that people had a basic psychological need to be led. ...snip"

then we must consider that.. they may need to be put in walled Reservations and prevented from breeding, it's the only way to humanely deal with them. we are all Doomed if they are left to continue to FUCK everything up and profit from it, they are bad enough alone.. but thru the Iron Law of Oligarchy only the truly and severely mentally ill take over the organization. but the end product is that they are obsessive compulsive sociopaths and some psychopathic and all out of control." :shrug:

they have totally messed up the 21st Century.. they have proven beyond ANY DOUBT their ideology is a complete failure, AGAIN. THEIR TORTURING MURDERIOUS GENOCIDAL ASSAULT ON on central and south america during Reagan/Bu$h/Kissinger/Milton Friedman should have told the world what were, but we allowed them to rewrite history ane get away with murdering and torturing to death 250,000 people..declared Genocide by the UN. and we are allowing them to do it again by validating them in Obama's government and ignoring their horific NEW CRIMES


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+cognitive+brain+differences+liberals+Conservatives&btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=liberal+brain+differences&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:01 PM
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15. The camps surround you Glenn.
Oooo-WOoo-OOoo-oooo-Ooooh
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:11 PM
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20. ROFL
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:03 PM
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17. When Chuck Norris does pushups...
he doesn't lift himself up. He pushes the world down
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:07 PM
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18. There is some evidence that the camps do in fact exist.
That being said, Beck's outlandish interpretation of what they will be used for is without any reasonable basis and serves only to incite fear in his target audience - an audience proven time and time again to respond especially eagerly to such tactics.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:13 PM
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21. I don't think Obama's gotten around to figuring out what to do with them.
If I thought that Obama would actually use them or put a large number of people in them for political reasons, I wouldn't have voted for him.

That, and the KBR contract is a contingency contract, which means they may have built one or two facilities here or there, but unless the .gov pulls the trigger on the contract, we won't see hundreds of American gulags springing up all over the country.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:14 PM
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22. It's the Bunkers of DOOM, I tells ya!!!11




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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:22 PM
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23. BREAKING...Glenn Beck is batshit insane...in other developing stories,
new evidence suggests that bears shit in the woods and that the Pope is indeed Catholic...stay tuned for more details...
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:29 PM
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24. yup.
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:41 PM
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25. Not to mention the "9-12 project"... link
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 05:44 PM
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26. OMG...Beck is on to us.
Quick!
Everybody switch to Plan B.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:00 PM
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27. Wingnut radio promoted such claims extensively before the Oklahoma City bombing
After Beck riles up a bunch of wackos with his conspiracy theories, I can only wonder who's going to die as a result
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:01 PM
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28. So that's where our Chief of Staff
went while they were investigating our workplace "climate"! The camps must be all ready to go now, as I understand he is returning to us next week. I'll ask at work tomorrow if anybody wants more details.:rofl:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:01 PM
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29. Why is his show not considered incitement to riot?
It's only a matter of time.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:22 PM
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34. There actually has to be a riot first before one can be said to incite it.
Also, I like your avatar.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:06 PM
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30. Good. Can we send Rupert Murdock there first? nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:17 PM
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31. I'd like to know where Beck stands on interplanetary aliens
Although at the rate his mind is deteriorating, I'm sure we'll know pretty soon.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:24 PM
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35. Is the government building concentration camps?
Rule by fear or rule by law?

Lewis Seiler, Dan Hamburg

Monday, February 4, 2008

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."

- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:47 PM
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36. This genius describes himself as "self-educated"
Another wingnut inty-leckshul like Rush who didn't even go to college but knows EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:13 PM
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39. Let's be careful with that broad brush.
I am also self-educated, and I'd be happy to compare my results on any given standardized test to those of a college graduate. Please don't imagine that Glenn Beck represents the inevitable result of self-directed independent learning. Rather, he represents the result of (probably minimal) self-directed study applied exclusively to an intellectually bankrupt ideological agenda. In other words, Beck isn't to be dismissed because he is self-educated. He is to be dismissed because he is a nut.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 06:49 PM
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37. I think we need to move along with plan Fv.67 before any more of this gets out.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:06 PM
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38. Rodger that, plan Fv.67 initiated
that is the one where we trick people into mailing teabags to the White House, right?
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