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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:56 AM Original message |
As a foreigner I truly don't understand why people blame teachers for the school failures |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. ! |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. i don't mean this to be a popcorn situation. i want to understand where people think |
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erinlough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I agree with you, |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. I agree but |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Nice post, op. I agree. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. I hope that no one is laying all the blame on teachers |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. Most people don't |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. so the variability in the quality of education, is more the problem? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Excellent post. nt |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. Good point |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
7. teachers aren't the problem. the parents and society have failed the teacher. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. Very, very true. Failed teachers, the education system, and most of all failed the kids. It is |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
8. We need to separate teachers/parents/students |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. brave new world? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. How else are we going to stop the blame? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think it's because . . . |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. i think you are very right. no one also sees that unless poor kids see an economic result to |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
11. Cops vs. Nuns |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
14. Because laying the bulk of the blame where it belongs |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. It is a strong rightwing meme |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
17. They are an easy target. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
19. I agree that there is a scorn for education in our culture. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. What the average American wants is not education, but job training |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. also, kids feel entitled to a college education, whether or not they've prepared |
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Progressive_In_NC (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Remember, Senators, successful business owners, and CEOS come from that first group you cited... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
21. There may well be some bad teachers in the public school system, but their numbers are few. You |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
22. US high schools are designed to turn out JOCKS not scholars. Btw "anomaly" is a word most US teens |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
23. Bingo. American anti-intellectualism is a huge problem, IMO. |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. BULLSEYE !!!! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Discipline problems in college are a new development |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. It all goes back to the decline in public support for public universities. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You've summarized many of the reasons I'm glad I left academia |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. re your last paragraph -- I keep repeating my opinion that we owe that ... |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
24. people = lazy. nt |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
25. I think you nailed it. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
28. You have to understand that these people are very, very stupid. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I actually had a dean tell us that our courses should be easier and grading standards lower |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. you are not alone in that!! If you try to |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
30. They're an easy target. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. Excellent thread. Thank you all for posting. k+r, n/t |
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nevia sky (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
38. Isn't it sad that our country seems to respect others based upon salary and status? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
40. You hit the nail on the damn head |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. i dont blame parents for this either. i do however blame polititicans for creating |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. It is the culture, not just the parents |
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