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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 12:56 PM Original message |
The Real AIG Scandal-By Eliot Spitzer: "This Was ALL An INSIDE JOB" |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is the motherlode. Those who KNOW have to tell us what;s going on. Thanks, kpete! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
78. A big K&R. Spitzer was on AIG's back when the feds went after him. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
93. exactemundo nt |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. A boobytrap in other words. |
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RJ Connors (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. I gathered from another article that, |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. I am missing Eliot Spitzer already.... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I have missed him since the very day he was shot down. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. he gave them the rope.. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Spitzer's personal issues were the public reason for his downfall |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. and HE had to have known that was so... |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. ...at least he managed to stay alive. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
79. Yes, he did, |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. I still do not know what is the big deal if he had a hooker.... |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Vitter got caught and he's still in office. |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
90. Joe Scarborough and dead assisstant |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. the outrage is only justified if it is REPUBLICAN outrage... |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #56 |
94. Hooker was a set-up? |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
66. Screwer or screwee |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
120. Sex....seems to be the only thing that outrages 'murkins. |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. K & R |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. we are slowly inching closer to the truth. |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. same mo as well...aig bonuses and the 'gun to your head' bailout in sept..fast...lets round up these |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
102. Shoot them |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. Spitzer certainly puts forward excellent questions that should be... |
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Last Stand (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
58. Elliot knows the answers to these questions. That's why they outed him. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
9. Now we know why Spitzer had to be destroyed |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. I wouldn't doubt it. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. Everything's a conspiracy |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. With criminal enterprises it always is. n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. And that's what's so perplexing about those who honestly believe conspiracies are non-existent |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. And that is business as usual. Damage control is done by big business's media |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #47 |
112. Unfortunately it seems to work that way within most social/belief structures |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. RICO Enforcement |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
74. With ever crime, the Police want to know who else is involved! n/t |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. We need Eliot Spitzer. Racketeering or other criminal convictions may get $ flowing back to us.nt |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. K & R. n/t |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. Could this be a rope-a-dope? |
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elizfeelinggreat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
16. k & r |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. It seems so Enron-ish. |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Foreclosure Phil |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. uhhhhh...errrrrr....no foreign banks received TARP money... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I think the poster means indirectly. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. That doesn't make much sense... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Ugh, I missed a step. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. mehh...I covered that part...not significant. nt |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Payouts to UBS via AIG |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. I saw Senator Olympia J. Snowe on tv today say she and Senator Wyden had it written in Stimulus |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. That's a real shame. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #80 |
117. how likely?? she shouldn't..none of them should sign off on anything |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #117 |
128. As to last bill, which was required |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
89. Larry Summers and California Energy "crisis" / Enron |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #89 |
114. Tim Geithner worked for 3 years at Kissingers firm..and then the CFR......... |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. The next company that comes with it's hand out needs to go immediately |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
21. dupe |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
22. Here's more from TIME: Obama's AIG Outrage: All Talk, No Action |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
25. Great insights by Spitzer |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R ...."It's not the bonuses...." n/t |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
27. As I have been saying AIG was always a 'passthrough' for govt taxpayer $$ .... |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Exactly! |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. AIG ,CIA, and BCCI |
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suegeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
69. Ira Sorkins' sons |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. Thank You! |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Bet your ass that the REAL crooks have 3-4 layers of indirection.... |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
95. AIG Reinsurance scam |
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Jambalaya (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Link to Komisar Scoop |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. Ding ding |
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Mr. Hyde (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. Why do we keep "bailing out" these criminals? Is this change we can believe in? |
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TornadoTN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. There will be a tipping point |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. I even heard people talking about it on the Los Angeles Metro |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
98. My next door neighbor never talks to me about politics |
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TornadoTN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. It's a common theme - and it's a shame too |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Or like he has a choice-we all do |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #108 |
126. Don't get me started on the approach/justification to inequality for |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
125. I know - it really doesn't add up. Here is Pres. Obama coming out and |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. Give Spitzer a boost by digging the Slate article |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
31. Spitzer gets his moment- he had to go-the man who knew too much |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. too bad he managed to undo his reputation of right/wrong |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
38. Big K & R !!! |
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Flagrante (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
39. Greg Palast had the Spitzer story a long time ago |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
100. my question to Spitzer is why didn't he reference AIG & the doomed financial market in his downfall |
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marias23 (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
40. The bonuses in spite of their obvious unfairness are a distraction |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
115. absolutely!!!!!!!! You have it right MARIAS23!! |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
44. It appears that Henry Paulson wanted his former employer, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
83. Can we hang Paulson now? |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
46. the thousands of these fucked politicians and bankers in on this scam is incredible |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
49. And Europe is yelling "protectionism".. We bail out their banks and when |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It is rather annoying. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
67. What nations in Europe have done that? Did you mean Mexico? Links please |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R n.t |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
59. We are told we owe 80% of AIG |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. Sanctity of the Contract = Zero Tolerance. |
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PaulRevere08 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
65. OMG!! Why does this remind me of the Californina "energy crisis"! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
68. K. Ms pete does it again! k*r n/t |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
70. "A-I-G was an in-side jo-ob". |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
72. Of course it was an inside job... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
73. knr |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
75. Read this as well |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
76. K&R'd. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
77. They'll probably be back to actually kill Spitzer now . . .!!!! |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Yeh, you can bet he's extremely depressed and despondent. A man ready to take his |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
84. odd how Spitzer's piece isn't getting much play. too bad. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
86. the 'bonus outrage' is a distraction, with the msm fanning the flames... |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
87. Same old suspects_Chris Dodd on Mary L. Schapiro |
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Vic Meyers (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
88. What would make me feel better about it all. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
91. 'Failure to answer these questions will feed the populist rage that is metastasizing very quickly.' |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #91 |
110. Great questions. |
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Stinger2 (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
92. Hello, Did you ever think the USA has had a Coup |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
97. Geithner has been exposed and the Obama administration better do something about it! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
99. How many of us here on DU were screaming this truth last fall? |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #99 |
106. Swear to God! A whole lot of people could smell this sh*t from a mile away. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #106 |
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Chimichurri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
103. The-poweres-that-be knew what they were doing when they |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
104. 116th recommend. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
105. The only mistake in the article: There WAS in fact a "reason" and "explanation." |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
107. Oh, we know Spitzer |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
109. Interesting article from 2004 involving AIG... |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
111. Figures. This is why I had no illusions that a Dem majority would change much |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
113. WSJ: Citi's Chief Economist Leaves for Treasury Post |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. yep. |
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antimatter98 (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
116. AIG scam is tip of the iceberg. Obama's doing nothing. n/t |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. It seems it is ALL a scam. We're just paying for it. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Oh and our kids and our kids kids will be paying for it!! This will be generational!! |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
121. Marking for later read |
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sixmile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
123. Kicked to keep Cuomo safe and out of trouble |
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127. kick |
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129. ....n/t |
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130. kick |
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