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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:33 AM
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An Islamic Creationist Stirs a New Kind of Darwinian Struggle
MARCH 17, 2009

An Islamic Creationist Stirs a New Kind of Darwinian Struggle
Mr. Oktar Has Plenty of Fans in Turkey, but Biologists Beg to Differ

By ANDREW HIGGINS
WSJ

ISTANBUL -- As scientists around the world celebrate the 150th anniversary of Charles Darwin's seminal work on evolution, Adnan Oktar, a college dropout turned theorist of Islamic creationism, is working on the fifth volume of a 14-part masterwork that he says will bury Darwinism once and for all. "Darwin and his theory are dead," says Mr. Oktar, founder and honorary president of the Science Research Foundation, an Istanbul outfit dedicated to debunking the Victorian-era English naturalist. Darwin, says his 52-year-old Turkish scourge, is "Satan's biggest trick on humanity." Mr. Oktar, who briefly studied interior design, hasn't had much success swaying scientists with the weight of his research. "He is a complete and utter ignoramus," says Richard Dawkins, an evolutionary biologist and Oxford University professor.

The physical weight of Mr. Oktar's work, however, is considerable. Each volume of his anti-Darwin magnum opus, "Atlas of Creation," weighs more than 13 pounds. Also weighing in on his side are very aggressive lawyers. They've repeatedly gone to court in Turkey to silence critics whom Mr. Oktar accuses of spreading "lies and insults." Scores of Web sites have been banned at his behest. These include the site of Oxford's Prof. Dawkins, which Mr. Oktar -- who writes under the pen name Harun Yahya -- got blocked last fall after it posted an article entitled "Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya." Prof. Dawkins responded to the ban by posting a Turkish translation of the article. Mr. Oktar derides Prof. Dawkins, an outspoken atheist, as "a pagan monk."

Mr. Oktar's combative zeal has put him in the vanguard of what some secular-minded Turks lament as a dangerous phenomenon: a retreat from science into religious dogma. "We are trying to turn the trend back, but I'm not sure we'll be successful," says Aykut Kence, a biology professor at Ankara's Middle East Technical University. Prof. Kence has worked with like-minded scholars on a series of conferences and other events marking Darwin's birth 200 years ago and the publication, in 1859, of "On the Origin of Species." He last week joined a chorus of secular outrage over a decision by the official journal of Turkey's state scientific-research council to pull a planned cover story on Darwin.

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A recent survey found that only a quarter of students entering Turkish universities accept Darwin's theory of evolution and that the proportion is much the same when they graduate. The findings, says Prof. Kence, are "very depressing." Islam, like Christianity, holds that God created the world and its creatures. But the Quran leaves more room for acceptance of evolution than does the Old Testament, which states that the world was created in six days. Creationism, says Prof. Kence, was originally a "Christian import," but has gained traction among Muslims, thanks in part to Mr. Oktar. Mr. Oktar's message has won support in some unlikely quarters, most notably among educated, wealthy Turks from secular families. Emre Calikoglu, a businessman in the construction industry, says he was "not interested in religious things before" he met Mr. Oktar but is now a devoted believer.

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"He's a megalomaniac. He worships the mirror," says Edip Yuksel, a Turkish writer who got to know Mr. Oktar in the 1980s when he first began developing his idiosyncratic take on Islam. Now a bitter critic, Mr. Yuksel has written a Turkish-language book on Mr. Oktar -- "The Cult of the Antichrist" -- but says he hasn't found a publisher willing to brave Mr. Oktar's lawyers. His Web site is banned in Turkey. The 1980s were a period of political turmoil and also Islamic awakening in Turkey. A military coup at the start of the decade led to the arrest of many left-wingers but left Muslim activists mostly unscathed. Under their influence, the Ministry of Education in 1984 revised textbooks to include creationism alongside Darwinism... Mr. Oktar has had various brushes with the law, including a 1991 drug-possession case in which, he says, security agents planted cocaine in his food. He was acquitted. A glamorous model then accused him of blackmail. The case collapsed. Mr. Oktar is now fighting to reverse a conviction last year of himself and six others for forming an unnamed illegal organization that Mr. Oktar says does not exist.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123724852205449221.html (subscription)

Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page A1



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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:42 AM
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1. Alrighty then
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 01:03 AM by Solly Mack
" One of the pictures in the first volume of Mr. Oktar's work features what is labeled as a caddis fly. It is in fact a man-made fishing fly with a metal hook clearly visible. Mr. Oktar says this is a "little detail"

LMAO




luress decoratives now.


Here is the same lure from billions and billions and billions of years ago



A family group of the luress birdus.




I slay me
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Hanse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:44 AM
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2. The WSJ?
Must be a different WSJ.

Couldn't be the same one that routinely endorses Creationists for president.

Or the one that published this trash:

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2005/05/Can-Science-Explain-Everything.aspx?p=1
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 12:52 AM
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3. Two different department
One, the news one which provides excellent reports.

The second - the editorial, well, as rabid as they come.

By the way, Obama and Kerry and Clinton and other notable Democrats on occasions have submitted op-ed to the WSJ.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 08:11 AM
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4. wow...i'm surprised to see the WSJ give this nutbar this many inches of copy
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 08:24 AM
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5. Harun Yahya is an interesting guy and a prolific author. Has done
many many works.

I have read a few and find them compelling.
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