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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:12 PM
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Rep Kevin McCarthy (R-CA22) says a Treasury operative changed the bill while in conference
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 04:17 PM by Stinky The Clown
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/House+Reps+Comment+Economic+Stimulus+Bill+Z11AtwdT1SDl.jpg
McCarthy (middle) next to another asshole

Gary Ackerman, with whom he was being interviewed, says he doesn't know who did it and then went on with feigned outrage of a measure to match the feigned outrage of McCarthy.

Lots of feigning today .... lots of it.




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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:14 PM
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1.  Legislators trying to blame the Treasury
Trying to save their asses. No one in treasury changed a bill in a Conference committee. These people think we're fools.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:15 PM
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2. What the hell is a treasury operative, and I thought the
treasury is still at bare bones staffing levels, which would have been the case even more so a month or two ago.

This is so confusing.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:18 PM
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4. The repubs are trying to say the administration caused the change to be made
I think a Dem did it ..... but I have no idea who.
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biopowertoday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:43 PM
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14. I think Treasury and Summers did the lobbied and Dems are in charge
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 04:45 PM by biopowertoday

of the bills. So it was Dems who somehow removed the provisions (unless you think some Repug slipped in at 3 am and zapped the provisions--or watered them down).



Treasury Attempts to “Blame Dodd” for AIG Bonuses

By: Jane Hamsher Tuesday March 17, 2009 1:15 pm


As Geithner tries to get out of the way of the AIG bonus train wreck, it looks like the designated sin eater is going to be Chris Dodd:

The administration official said the Treasury Department did its own legal analysis and concluded that those contracts could not be broken. The official noted that even a provision recently pushed through Congress by Senator Christopher J. Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, had an exemption for such bonus agreements already in place.

So Treasury says Chris Dodd did this? In a word. . . no.

What they're talking about is a clause in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which was signed into law by President Obama on Feburuary 17, and places limits on executive compensation for TARP recipients. According to the white paper obtained by FDL written by AIG to explain its legal justification, the $1.2 billion in bonuses they say they are contractually obligated to pay in 2009 are exempt from these limits:
........................


Who pushed back against Dodd, and told him to neuter the provision? The WSJ says Geithner and Summers:

Quote:




The administration is concerned the rules will prompt a wave of banks to return the government's money and forgo future assistance, undermining the aid program's effectiveness. Both Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Lawrence Summers, who heads the National Economic Council, had called Sen. Dodd and asked him to reconsider, these people said.



The Hill has more: ............................

http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/17/tr...r-aig-bonuses/



.................

Washington knew AIG was preparing to pay bonuses


By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS,

Tue Mar 17, 9:04 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Cue the outrage. For months, the Obama administration and members of Congress have known that insurance giant AIG was getting ready to pay huge bonuses while living off government bailouts. It wasn't until the money was flowing and news was trickling out to the public that official Washington rose up in anger and vowed to yank the money back.



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Around the same time, Congress and Obama's team were passing up an opportunity to put in place strict laws to revoke bonuses from recipients of the $700 billion Wall Street bailout. In February, the Senate voted to add such a proposal to the economic recovery bill that cleared Congress, but in final closed-door talks on the measure, that provision was dropped in favor of limits that affect only future payments.

"There was a lot of lobbying against it and it died," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., who proposed the measure with Republican Sen. Olympia J. Snowe of Maine. He said Obama's team is sending mixed messages on what will and won't be tolerated on bonuses, with the president coming out strongly against excessive Wall Street rewards but top officials not following through.

"The president goes out and says this is not acceptable, and then some backroom deal gets cut to let these things get paid out anyway," Wyden said. "They need to put this to bed once and for all."........................

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090318/..._did_they_know ;_ylt=Anb503rUj04SRI4KffgLQBayFz4D


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and some history:

From Senator Snowe's website:

Snowe-Wyden Amendment Will Recover Taxpayer Dollars Paid-Out as Wall Street Bonuses


February 4, 2009

Washington, D.C. -

Financial institutions that used "federal bailout" funds to pay employees bonuses in excess of $100,000 will be required to compensate taxpayers under a provision that will be introduced today by U.S. Senators Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine). The provision – which the Senators will offer as an amendment to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 – will require financial institutions that received funds from the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) to either repay the cash portion of any bonus paid in excess of $100,000 early – within 120 days of the amendment’s enactment – or face an excise tax of 35% on what is not immediately repaid to the treasury.

"It’s not enough to say these bonuses are wrong – they must be paid back," said Wyden. "To get our economy moving again, the American people must regain confidence in their financial institutions. Protecting taxpayers with this amendment is a strong start."


More at: http://snowe.senate.gov/public/index..._id=&Issue_id=


and today:


Snowe Expresses Outrage over AIG Bonuses and UBS Tax Crimes


March 17, 2009

Washington, D.C. -

At today’s Senate Finance Committee hearing examining Ponzi schemes and other egregious tax evasions, U.S. Senator Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) today voiced outrage over the extreme violation of public trust committed by American International Group (AIG) for doling out $165 million in bonuses after receiving a $170 billion bailout from the federal government.

"These bonuses are a staggering insult to the American people," Senator Snowe said. "Clearly these executives need a strong and resounding reality check."

Referring to her amendment with Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) that would have forced financial institutions receiving TARP money to repay bonuses over $100,000 or face a 35 percent excise tax on what is not immediately repaid to the treasury, Senator Snowe commented that if the provision had not been stripped out of the final stimulus package, the American people could reclaim these obscene bonuses.

"The stimulus debate presented an opportunity to enact firm restrictions on the ability of financial institutions receiving TARP funds to provide executive compensation," Snowe continued. "The Snowe-Wyden amendment would have forced AIG to either return the TARP money or pay out the bonuses and incur a 35 percent tax – equating to roughly $58 million. Yet my provision with Senator Wyden was inexplicably stripped out of the final package - leaving us with the unacceptable outcome we face today."


More at: http://snowe.senate.gov/public/index...7-637922150088



Snowe, Wyden Urge Geithner to Re-Examine Executive Compensation Proposal
Initiative Could Have Prevented AIG’s Abuse of Taxpayer Dollars


March 17, 2009


Outraged at American International Group’s (AIG) abuse of taxpayer dollars, U.S. Senators Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) today, in a letter, urged Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to re-examine the Wyden-Snowe proposal to force those financial institutions using Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) funds to pay excessive bonuses to either return the funds or face an excise tax. A version of the bipartisan proposal -- which was successfully offered as an amendment to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act -- was regrettably stripped out during House-Senate conference negotiations. Had the initiative been enacted into law, the amendment could have prevented AIG from rewarding top executives in the firm’s financial products division, the same group responsible for engineering risky subprime mortgages, which, in part, led to the collapse of the financial markets.

More at:http://snowe.senate.gov/public/index...7-62b4beedd66d
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:17 PM
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3. That segment was very confusing. Are they trying to blame
Geithner for stripping the bill?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:19 PM
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6. It was confusing cuz Matthews stepped on both his guests' remarks
Matthews is a self-absorbed, name dropping gasbag
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:53 PM
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18. I find this confusing too. Also, the timing is important.
The testimony today was that Geithner learned of the bonuses two weeks ago and immediately called upon Liddy for a meeting, which happened seven days later, or just one week ago.

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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:53 PM
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19. I find this confusing too. Also, the timing is important.
The testimony today was that Geithner learned of the bonuses two weeks ago and immediately called upon Liddy for a meeting, which happened seven days later, or just one week ago.

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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:19 PM
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5. Hope we are not paying for that bottled water. nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:20 PM
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7. So... our prime suspects so far are Snowe and McCarthy.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:24 PM
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9. They're just feigning being suspects
Or they suspect they're feigning. Or maybe they're actually just feinting ..... to the left .... or right ......
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:22 PM
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8. I thought the joint committee was made up of
nothing but Congresspersons and Senators.

Since when did any member of the executive branch sit in on these things?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:24 PM
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10. Facts, schmacts
The implication is that one of the Dems was doing Treasury's bidding.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:30 PM
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13. IF they don't name the name, they lied the lie.
That's it with these fucks. If a Republican can't name the name, they're just lying the lie.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:25 PM
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11. Ooooo, a Treasury operative. Sounds like he should be in the shadows when something blows up in a

movie.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:29 PM
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12. Do treasury operatives wear some kind of uniform?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:46 PM
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16. Yes, of course they do. Sheesh
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:44 PM
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15. How in the hell
would Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) know what went on in a committee he wasn't on?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:47 PM
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17. Who is this strange man in our committee?"
anyway, let's give him the floor.
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