Fort Hood Soldier Arrested After Killeen Woman Shoots Would-Be Burglar

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

Fort Hood soldier Jamar Mcnair Jones, 18, was in the Bell County Jail charged with burglary of a habitation with the intent to commit theft Monday after a Killeen woman shot a man who tried to force his way into her home.
The woman called 911 early Friday morning after the would-be burglar fled.

She told officers she was awakened by the doorbell around 4 a.m. Friday. The front door of the woman’s home had a viewer, but she told officers she was unable to see who was ringing the bell so she opened the door slightly.

When she did, the man attempted to force his way in. That’s when she fired.

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/41335607.html


If we continue to enlist felons into the armed forces we will see more and more of these types of stories.


David

[Luminous Animal]

1. Anybody who opens their door at 4 a.m to a stranger

is an idiot.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

3. I would question that decision also.

Especially when the man is hiding his face from the peephole. I'm glad that she is okay though.\


David

[Luminous Animal]

10. I glad that she is okay, too. (n/t)

[petronius]

7. True. You'd think that if she took a gun safety class they would have

emphasized the importance of taking precautions to avoid getting into situations where the gun might come in handy. If she didn't take such a class, she should.

Definitely a bonehead move...

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

17. I don't know if that would be covered.

I'm sure it would be covered in a concealed carry class, maybe in some gun safety classes. Many though are just about gun safety and not about defensive gun use. It's hard to teach common sense though.

David

[anonymous171]

2. More evidence of the dangers of guns. nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

4. Yes they proved dangerous for the criminal in this case.

[ConsAreLiars]

5. Get counseling before it's too late (nt)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

6. Nice to hear from you this evening.

[U4ikLefty]

8. No kidding. Some people don't know the meaning of

beating a dead horse.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

9. Thanks for your concern.

[U4ikLefty]

16. I have no concern for you or these tired stories.

I do agree with ConsAreLiars that counseling may be a good idea...just a friendly suggestion.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

19. If you weren't concerned why comment? Regardless I appreciate the kick.

[Ghost in the Machine]

32. If you have no concern, don't click on the fucking thread and flap your gums

Counseling might be a good idea for you, too. It might help you overcome your need to control others.

I've heard counseling is ineffective for treating assholishness, though..

[U4ikLefty]

34. Counseling IS effective for treating anger issues however.

Look into it.

[Ghost in the Machine]

36. Project much?

You seem to be confusing me with yourself... you *do* seem intimately familiar with different types of counseling. Are you a complete whackjob?

If you don't have anything intelligent to add to a conversation, maybe you should consider just posting cat pictures in the Lounge or something.

[ConsAreLiars]

13. And even sadder, a few, after repeatedly beating the same dead horse, still persist,and

ask "whaddya mean I'm beating a dead horse?"

[U4ikLefty]

20. Maybe that dead horse should be shot instead.

...and I bet there would be thread on DU tomorrow defending the shooting.

[Joe the Liberal]

11. If someone came knocking on my door at 4 in the morning..........

I probably wouldn't even notice, I'm a pretty heavy sleeper! :P

But if I did notice I sure as hell would not answer the freaking the door. You'd have to be a complete moron to do so, who goes around knocking on peoples doors at 4AM? It sure is'nt girl scouts selling cookies. Good thing the woman was able to defend herself but she should not have opened the door in the first place, its just common sense.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

15. I agree, him hiding his face from the peephole should have been a big red flag.

[Fleshdancer]

26. Maybe she thought it was a neighbor in distress

Or maybe she wasn't thinking straight because she just woke up and it was 4am.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

27. Very true, shouldn't condemn without knowing all the details.

He did hide his face from the peephole, that should have raised concerns. Maybe it did though she was armed when she opened the door.

David

[Fleshdancer]

28. very true....

although, I've been known to answer the phone and carry on conversations in my sleep which is probably why I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. Mornings are horrible, evil things for us night owls. ;)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

29. I drove to a 1st Responder call, treated a patient and couldn't remember it the next morning.

My Captain at the time asked me to do the report and I said report for what. He says the call at 4:30am last shift. I thought he was kidding. I had to look it up on the computer to believe him.

David

[Fleshdancer]

31. now THAT is scary

I would probably have experienced the same thing if I were in your position. :rofl:

Yet another reason why the human brain facinates me...it's crazy that we're capable of being sleep active and/or go on autopilot at times.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

35. I'm a Captain now so I don't drive anymore, nothing to fear.

Unless of course I hook you up to the defibrillator. :)

David

[Joe the Liberal]

37. No way..........

If it was a neighbor in distress he/she wouldn't have been hiding his/her face from the peephole, and he/she would have probably yelled "Open up I need help" or something.

If it's just some random person who is hiding from the peephole and is knocking at your door at 4AM that's a sign you probably shouldn't answer the door.

I'll assume she just wasn't thinking clearly.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

38. She was armed.

Maybe he acted hurt. I agree it's questionable, but without knowing more information, I'm not willing to say much more.

David

[Fleshdancer]

12. The article doesn't say he was a felon when he enlisted

I agree enlisting felons is a bad idea, but I don't think this particular situation is proof of that. :shrug:

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

14. My apologies, didn't mean to imply that he was.

I've seen more stories of this behavior and just saw a piece on gang activity in the military. I just meant that we will see more of this if we continue to enlist felons.


David

[MajorChode]

24. I don't see how

If they don't enlist they are still felons and still perfectly capable of committing a crime. In fact, I would suspect they would be more likely to commit a crime if they DON'T enlist.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

25. Apologies again, crimes by soldiers on or around military bases.

Your point is well taken though. Families around military bases aren't afforded any more protection then the general public.


David

[MajorChode]

30. There might be a higher instance of military members committing crimes...

since they started allowing more waivers to felons. Although it would be interesting to see a study to see how many offenders repeat vs those that don't go in the military.

There will always be serious crimes committed by military members, even if no felons were admitted, however if you compare military members to the general population, I'm pretty sure you'd see much lower crime rates within the same age groups.

Back in the day many young people were given the choice of going into the military or going to jail, so it's not as if the military has always taken the best and brightest. I would like to think those that get waivers truly deserve them and use the opportunity to turn their life around, but clearly some won't.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

33. I agree I think there is an overall lower crime rate.

The waivers for felony convictions of violent crimes are the most concerning. I served when they still did the military or jail bit also. It was usually property crime though instead of violent crime. The piece on gang activity was very disturbing though. Some of them probably make great soldiers hard to predict though and teaching gang members and violent felons coordinated fire and movement tactics and how to use advanced weaponry may not be a good idea.


David

[1]

18. good for the killeen woman. i love stories about women standing up for themselves...

and refusing to be victims.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

21. Oddly enough some here find women protecting themselves demented.

Just kidding, I know you'll don't feel that way.

David

[tkmorris]

22. Thought I missed this morning's post from the "Gunz R Gud" campaign

I was feeling oddly incomplete somehow, but now the world is right again.

How ya doin' Dave? Everything copacetic in your neck of the woods?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

23. Sorry for the late post fell asleep watching South Park with my wife.

I'm okay. Still mourning the loss of our puppy but doing okay. Thanks for asking.

David

[TWiley]

39. Wrong Again

Quote: If we continue to enlist felons into the armed forces we will see more and more of these types of stories" End Quote

Where does it say the shooting vicim was a felon? To assume any relationship between enlisted felons, and "more and more of these types of stories" is bad reasoning. How many prisoners in Levonworth committed their first crimes while in the service versus enlisted felons?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

42. You assume much.

[noamnety]

40. I see the gunwatch site has added their own special race baiting to the story

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2009/03/virginia-one-burglar-shot-another.html (check their headlines for March 18)

[asteroid2003QQ47]

41. Killeen woman who shot intruder should be charged...

with use of a sub-caliber weapon, one more suitable for plinking at cans than
bringing down an attacker.

[Aristus]

43. Showing up at morning formation with a gunshot wound is bound to raise questions.

That's our military writ small these days; busting in some place where we weren't invited and aren't wanted, and getting tagged by the innocent, but vigilant people living there who are better armed and more determined than we had been led to believe...

Damn! B-) :popcorn::rofl: