Brian ROSS blames 2nd Amend.for U.S.gun exports to Mexico, violence over there

[UTUSN]

So, thought the news reports yesterday about "90-95% of guns in Mexico involved in violence came from the U.S." would make a good topic to post, so GUESS what the first link in the Search was: From an item DATED 2008!1

Yaas, something by intrepid (not) "investigative" reporter Brian ROSS, who seems to be saying that this phenom is CAUSED by the 2nd Amendment. Uh, NO, Brian, it's because of ignorant wingnuts who can't READ the 2nd Amendment and who have NO ethics or morals about capping their GREED.

Otoh, just as Mexicans, for generations, have said that 1) The BUSINESS of the U.S. is to manufacture and sell ARMS and then the U.S. gets all verklempt about violence when the arms are USED, and 2) Mexico would not SEND drugs to the U.S. if there were not a DEMAND in the U.S. for them: So the reverse is also true, there would not be guns going to Mexico if Mexicans weren't asking for them.


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http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=90%25+gun+Mexico&src=IE-SearchBox
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4695848

U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame?

Officials: More Than 90 Percent of Weapons Used by Mexico's Drug Gangs Come From the U.S.
April 22, 2008

By BRIAN ROSS and RICHARD ESPOSITO

U.S. gun stores and gun shows are the source of more than 90 percent of the weapons being used by Mexico's ruthless drug cartels, according to U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials.

"It's a war going on in Mexico, and these types of firearms are the weapons of war for them," said Bill Newell, the special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division of the ATF, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which has primary law enforcement jurisdiction for investigating gun trafficking to Mexico.

"It's virtually impossible to buy a firearm in Mexico as a private citizen, so this country is where they come," said Newell. ....

President(sic) Bush(sic) said today at a press conference that Mexican President Felipe Calderon again raised the issue of guns at their meeting in New Orleans.

Mexico's strict gun laws are being subverted by the easy availability of weapons in the U.S., the Mexican attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza, told ABC News. "The Second Amendment," said the attorney general, "is certainly not designed to arm and give fire power to organized crime abroad." ....



http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2009/03/04/a_lethal_export_to_mexico/

Globe editorial

A lethal export to Mexico

March 4, 2009

.... This is not just a Mexican problem. According to US and Mexican law enforcement oficials, 90 percent of the guns picked up from criminal activity are purchased in the United States.

Mexico has strict gun-control laws, prohibiting purchase of assault rifles and requiring gun purchases to be registered with the government. Even so, 55 percent of weapons picked up are assault rifles - which can be bought legally in much of the United States. These military-grade weapons easily out-muscle the Mexican police. ....

The criminal demand for assualt weapons cannot be deterred by Mexican law alone when they are so easily available in the United States. Attorney General Eric Holder admitted this on Friday when he said reinstituting a federal ban on the sale of assault weapons, which lapsed in 2004, "will have a positive impact in Mexico, at minimum."

This is a good first step, but the problem is not just at the federal level. Because gun-control laws vary from state to state, those that opt not to require background checks for sales at gun shows, for example, significantly harm the security of other states. ....


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[fumsm]

1. oh ohh,, here we go..BO taking away my guns.....

Shalnt be long now, the repukes will be screaming. Hell, I'll bet Beck is already practicing his crying.

[TheWraith]

2. Yet more bullshit about the situation in Mexico.

According to all the news reports I've seen, the cartels are using fully automatic weapons, mostly AK-47s. The Mexican government claims that these weapons are being smuggled into Mexico from the US.

And yet, full-auto weapons are effectively illegal in the US, and if you could smuggle some in they'd be worth vastly more for sale HERE rather than smuggling them again into Mexico. Whereas in Mexico the borders have all the integrity of swiss cheese, as proven by the cartel's ability to move tons of drugs through the country. So remind me again, where the problem is coming from?

[inwiththenew]

4. Exactly

The last few pictures I have seen of confiscated weapons have included rpgs, 40mm grenades, and hand grenades. I could see them getting hand guns from the US, but why would they come up here and buy semi-auto rifles for probably about 3x what they would pay for a real deal fully automatic weapon?

[TheWraith]

6. Here in the US, a true full-auto assault rifle is worth around $20,000.

That's the going price for a properly registered military grade M-16. Why? Because they're collectors items. There's only so many in existence from before the 1986 ban on new registrations, so they're expensive. Explosives like grenades and RPGs are completely out of the question.

If some gun dealer really had a crate of 100 AK-47s in his back storage room, and was willing to sell them illegally, which do you think he'd do: sell them to the Mexican cartels for maybe $250,000? Or sell them to people here in the US for north of $2 million?

[Vickers]

3. "Mexico has strict gun-control laws"

Oh, the irony!

[jmg257]

5. Uhh - if only our 2nd prevented the govt from infringing on automatic weapons,

this all might be true. But in reality...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mex...

"MEXICO UNDER SIEGE
Drug cartels' new weaponry means war

Narcotics traffickers are acquiring firepower more appropriate to an army -- including grenade launchers and anti-tank rockets -- and the police are feeling outgunned.
By Ken Ellingwood and Tracy Wilkinson
5:53 PM PDT, March 13, 2009

The Feb. 21 attack on police headquarters in coastal Zihuatanejo, which injured four people, fit a disturbing trend of Mexico's drug wars. Traffickers have escalated their arms race, acquiring military-grade weapons, including hand grenades, grenade launchers, armor-piercing munitions and antitank rockets with firepower far beyond the assault rifles and pistols that have dominated their arsenals.

Most of these weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the smuggling of semiauto-matic and conventional weapons purchased from dealers in the U.S. border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California."


BS like in the following report, and like in the OP articles, just DOES NOT MAKE SENSE...

http://www.mccaffreyassociates.com/pdfs/Mexico_AAR_-_December_2008.pdf

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D. Mexican law enforcement authorities and soldiers face heavily armed drug gangs with high-powered military automatic weapons. Perhaps 90% of these weapons are smuggled across the US border. They are frequently purchased from licensed US gun dealers in Texas, Arizona, and California. {note...**BULLSHIT**}

AK-47 assault rifles are literally bought a hundred at a time and illegally brought into Mexico. Mexican authorities routinely seize BOXES of unopened automatic military weapons. The confiscation rates by Mexican law enforcement of hand grenades, RPG’s, and AK-47’s are at the level of wartime battlefield seizures."


Note: Sorry but this is BULLSHIT! There are NOT boxes of automatic rifles or automatic military weapons available in the US, unless someone is stealing them from the US military suppliers, or from the US military themselves. And where in the US are "BOXES" of real automatic Ak-47s coming from? NO ONE HERE MAKES THEM OR LEGALLY IMPORTS THEM!! Maybe smuggled in from Iraq, but they certainly aren't being sold via straw purchases by US dealers.


Reading the report and the OP articles, one can see they are using bait and switch to try to fuck us.