Is anybody sick of these snarky anti-Clean Coal commercials

[empyreanisles]

Yeah, I get it -- Coal burning is not acceptable even if lower pollution levels are possible. But these TV spots get on my nerves with their irreverant, faux-1950s tone.

Also, they keep saying there is no clean coal. By what standard? Has it been proven that methods cannot be devised to make coal burning LESS "dirty"? Was the idea of "clean coal" created by the coal industry in hopes of stunting political will to investigate other energy technologies?

[lapfog_1]

1. It's real hard to burn coal without releasing CO2

no matter how hard you scrub the flue stacks... as for the leftovers... why not ask folks that live here how that is working out for them...



plus everyone that lives downstream from this.

[Raine]

2. No, I like those commericials

:thumbsup:

[Johonny]

35. I agree compared to the pro-coal Christmas commercials

these aren't even close to being annoying.

[Hissyspit]

3. Since when is less dirty the same as clean?

Why did you put dirty in quotes?

This is dirty: (Dec. 2008 Coal Ash Spill, Tennessee)

[LeftyMom]

4. Mountaintop removal.

It doesn't matter if they manage to create magic scrubbers that convert coal plant discharges into kittens and rainbows, just getting to the coal is an ecological nightmare.

[ColbertWatcher]

5. Sick of them? Hell no! I think they're hilarious!

I'm surprised no one thought of it before this!

I'm hoping to see more!

[ColbertWatcher]

6. (Oh, where are my manners?) Welcome to DU! n/t

[tkmorris]

7. You're a big coal fan, are ya?

Aside from the fact that current so-called "clean coal" plants are anything but, you just have to love the mining techniques.



http://www.ohvec.org/galleries/mountaintop_removal/007/

[Caliman73]

8. Nope, not sick of them.

They are putting information out there in a creative way. No such thing as Clean Coal. The 50's tone implies the time where corporations sold us cigarettes as healthy, and where rich old White men knew what was best for the country. Not too much has changed, but we're working on it.

[leftofthedial]

9. no

[me b zola]

10. No

[retread]

11. No. I do see something I could become "sick of" if they continue. n/t

[ejpoeta]

12. it's a good counterpoint to the pro coal commercials. the ones that

use obama to put forth the idea of clean coal. i find their use of him in their commercials funny. didn't they oppose him in the election???

[MindPilot]

15. That's odd -- I have never seen an ad for clean coal.

But it is not unusual to see the no-clean-coal ad twice in the same commercial break. Weird

[ejpoeta]

27. i've seen several. they show obama in a town hall from during the

campaign season where he is talking about clean coal and learning how to do clean coal or something.

[Berry Cool]

28. No, they supported him.

Their minions were at all of his rallies, handing out free "Clean Coal" T-shirts and caps to anyone standing in line waiting who would accept one (I wouldn't). He mentioned clean coal regularly in his speeches and still does when talking energy.

Like it or not, Obama believes in clean coal. It's one thing about him I wish he'd see the light on.

[ejpoeta]

33. remove dupe

[ejpoeta]

34. were they? i am sorry. i assumed that they were for mccain because

republicans tend to be for this kind of stuff.

as for obama.... there are things i don't agree with him on, but at least i know he will listen and i think he has the capacity to change his mind on things.

[MindPilot]

13. No, but they do raise a question for me

Any way you slice it they are very good productions--the anti-tobacco ones too--and good productions are expensive. How is it that these two groups have enough money to be prominent on TV, but none of the 14 brazillion other issue advocacy groups do?

Yeah, clean coal is an oxymoron and cigarettes are bad, mmmmkay. Perhaps it would be better to spend the money on something other than telling us shit any one with more than two brain cells already knows. That's all I'm sayin'.

[Hekate]

14. I like 'em. Welcome to DU. nt

[anniebelle]

16. No, but truly sick of the ones touting the virtues of "Clean Coal".

I hate money has to be spent to combat the coal company bosses, but too many are ignorant of the facts about coal and all the problems assigned to it -- removing it, storing it, and the clean up. I live in East Tennessee and it's not a pretty sight to see that ash all over what was once farm land and private homes. There is a better way!

[Captain Hilts]

17. The Wash Metro is plastered with ads for both sides. nt

[Brazenly Liberal]

18. No. They're clever and TRUE. I'd like to see a lot more of them.

Irreverent, faux-1950's is very 2009.

[H2O Man]

19. gosh!

Those jerks that want a clean environment are such a pain in the ass. I hate it when they expose the coal industry's lies. It's so dishonest of them. And really annoying.

[Bluenorthwest]

20. I love those spots

especially the one made by the Cohen Brothers with the giant spray can...the commercials I am sick of and offended by are the daft pro-coal ads that use clips of campaign Obama edited to make it seem that his speech is all about 'clean coal' and that the aduience chanting 'yes we can' means we can make coal clean. One of the most innacurate and heavy handed ads I have ever seen.
Lower pollution levels are not possible with coal burning. Ads for clean coal are like ads for a trip to the moon...selling that which they can not deliver.
There is no clean coal.

[Kolesar]

22. I love the ad where he sprays the nasty black stuff from the aerosol can

...and the family recoils in horror. I didn't know that was by the Cohen Brothers!

[elizfeelinggreat]

21. Not me, I love them

I believe they are making their point very well and I hope other progressive groups learn from them.

[JTFrog]

23. Has it been proven that methods cannot be devised to turn my coal into a pony?

Where the fuck is my pony?

[AlinPA]

24. No. Coal mining is dirty business. Come to W. PA and check it out.nt

[KharmaTrain]

25. I'm Sick Of The Sexed Up Coal Industry Babe...

She's probably on Arnold Murray's payroll. That shitbag should be in jail. He and his buddies started this "clean coal" bullshit with their slick ads that inundated the cables...along with a bunch of fluff pieces that networks like Chicken Noodle Nuze always like to do when a big check arrives in the sales department. It's corporate checkbook "journalism" at its best.

I'm glad to see a group willing to take the time and money to fight the corporates...their spot can't run enough on my teevee.

[ellie]

26. No

I don't feel sorry for the coal industry one bit.

[DireStrike]

29. I was far sicker of the "clean coal" commercials. "By what standard?"

Coal is not clean, that's the standard.

Cleaner coal is not clean coal.

Yes, the idea of "clean coal" was created to suck away investment in other technologies and to maintain the place of the coal industries in our energy infrastructure.

[ThomWV]

30. Nope, and once you've been here long enough to have about 100 posts ...

Maybe you'll come to understand the general bent of the board - which while anything but unitary is at least consistant in its view of the environment - that being that its a thing worth taking care of.

As for the commercials - I want more of them. I want to see on every 15 minutes when the TV is on.

[BluePatriot21]

31. I want more commercials that are anti coal

Clean Coal
Tasty Clean Shit
Edible Clean used Tampons
Drinkable Clean Urine
Chewable Clean Razor Blades
Non Toxic Clean Nuclear waste

all the same in my eyes - all bad and all harnessing the use of the word Clean.

The republican mantra of drill baby drill wasn't my favorite of theirs, I liked the smarmy "Country First" one. But I never trust anything that they push as an alternative energy source.

Clean Coal
Nuclear Power

both ideas need to be gone from the list of energy options, put them on there with wood burning stoves, steam power and human pulled chariots for transportation.

[Ilsa]

32. I thought I saw a program where Canada had extremely

low CO2 emissions from their coal plants.

[AllieB]

36. If you could present some FACTS about the coal industry being 'less dirty'

you may have some non-snarky discussion here. But you can't. Coal is an ecological nightmare.

[Sinistrous]

37. Yes. They are intellectually dishonest.

They state that there is no such thing as clean coal, which may be true today. But, by ignoring the possibility of processes and technology being developed in the future, these propaganda screeds are false and misleading.