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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:33 AM
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Is food becoming poison?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:47 AM
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1. Oh noes! Making us watch an 8 minute video.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:49 AM
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2. Better than a 45 minute one.
:evilgrin:

So, did you watch the video? Any thoughts?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:48 PM
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12. lol. true enough. No didn't watch it (hanging head in shame). I will
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:56 AM
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3. It has been for some time now
too many additives, too many frankenfoods, too many chemicals. The best i felt all year was when I existed on nothing but organic lemon juice, purified water and organic cayenne pepper for 17 days. Makes me wonder just how many toxins are in the "healthy, natural" foods that I normally eat.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:03 AM
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4. Naturally occurring toxins in naturally occurring food
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 11:04 AM by HysteryDiagnosis
http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/consumers/chemicals-nutrients-additives-and-toxins/natural-toxins/index.htm


http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/chem-chim/toxin-natur/index-eng.php
Natural toxins are chemicals that are naturally produced by living organisms. These toxins are not harmful to the organisms themselves but they may be toxic to other creatures, including humans, when eaten.

Some plants have the capacity to naturally produce compounds that are toxic to humans when consumed. For example, under certain conditions, microscopic algae (tiny plants) in the ocean can produce compounds that are toxic to humans but not to shellfish that eat this algae. When people eat shellfish that contain these toxins, illness can quickly follow. There is an active monitoring program in place to ensure that shellfish sold to Canadians do not contain these "shellfish toxins". This monitoring program is jointly administered by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, and Environment Canada.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:04 AM
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5. Thank you for posting the link
:thumbsup:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:07 AM
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8. It's what I do, without Google I'm nothing. Ask my ignored list. n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:44 AM
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10. That's not what the video is about, though
we're not talking about naturally occurring toxins. When melamine is added to the food supply to boost protein levels there's nothing "naturally occurring" about it.As in all things, greed is leading to our own undoing.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 03:08 PM
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13. Since that is the real issue, artifically induced stuff consider this,
years ago our livers weren't under such stresses from added chemicals. Our livers have much better things to do than cleaving toxins that need not be in our food. Consider the fact that the liver produces sugars that are involved in cell to cell chatter, but only as a backup system. They should be in our food supply but are typically destroyed during food processing. Is it any wonder we are falling prey to the diseases of "old age" in our 20's and 30's? Is it any wonder that supplements that can reduce the stress on our livers can help us avert or even treat disease?? No one wants to talk about it but that is the reality of it in a nutshell.

http://autoimmunedisease.suite101.com/article.cfm/milk_thistle


The herb milk thistle (Silybum marianum), which is also known as St. Mary’s thistle and lady’s thistle, has been used medicinally for more than 2,000 years. Today, milk thistle is widely used in Europe and in the United States. Milk thistle is used in both humans and pets with autoimmune disease to protect the liver and promote general health, especially in patients with autoimmune liver disorders and thyroid eye disease and to reduce environmental sensitivities and oxidative stress in autoimmune hemolytic anemia and other autoimmune conditions.
Active Ingredients

The active ingredients in milk thistle seeds include the bioflavinoid antioxidant silymarin and its three components: silibin, sidianin and silcristin. Silibin is the most active ingredient and most responsible for the medicinal effects of milk thistle. Milk thistle supplements standardized to contain 80 percent silibin are recommended.
Physiological Effects

Milk thistle exerts its protective effects by blocking the entrance of harmful toxins and helping remove these toxins from liver cells. In the case of poisoning from the potent hepatotoxin (toxic to the liver) Amanita phalloides mushrooms, milk thistle is recognized as the most efficacious cure.

Milk thistle is also reported to help regenerate injured liver cells by increasing the rate of RNA synthesis. Milk thistle also reduces collagen production, which reduces the circulatory changes that lead to fibrosis, liver cell necrosis, and cirrhosis. The bioflavinoid antioxidants in milk thistle reduce oxidative stress in autoimmune disorders, which helps reduce inflammation and promotes healing.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:05 AM
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6. Food has historically been toxic
yes, I agree that over processed food is a huge problem, but there have always been big problems with the food supply. Beyond that going on your lemon juice diet for 17 days is a spectacularly stupid thing to do without medical supervision.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:41 AM
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9. Jesus, you are both rude and uninformed:
http://www.amazon.com/Master-Cleanser-stanley-burroughs/dp/0963926209/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237653393&sr=8-1

My doctor suggested it in the first place! This type of fast has been used safely and effectively WITHOUT doctor supervision for decades to detox the body. Many people do it for 30-40 days without any other effect than better health and a few less pounds of fat on their frames. What's spectacularly stupid is making such colossally ignorant attacks on something that you obviously know absolutely NOTHING about.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:54 AM
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11. bwahahaha. oh yeah, that ridiculous Amazon thread really backs you up.
Sorry, it does not. And yeah, going on a diet of lemon juice, maple syrup, cayenne and water for 17 days without medical supervision is dangerous and stupid.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18595886/
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:07 AM
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7. Since the GOP's all but killed any oversight into the food production
in this country, it surely has become worse.
Don't anything you don't cook yourself.

mark
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