Overheard some right wingers talking about stocking up on ammo before July 4th..

[BadGimp]

I was driving back from Denver on Interstate 15 out of Vegas and stopped at The Mad Greek in Baker, CA. AS I was leaving I overheard a group of dirt bike riders being lied to by one fo their own. Seems one of them was warning the group that on July 4th the Obama administration will secretly institute a law requiring all bullets to have some kind of traceable code on them and any buyer will be forced to show ID when making a ammo purchase. The big take-away was that they all needed to run out and stock up on ammo NOW!

Someone is peeing in the right wing info pool folks. They are trying to stir the rabble but all they are doing is increasing the collective ignorance level. Sad really when you think about it.

Almost makes me wish I owned a gun store so I could suck these fools dry of their hard earned cash.

[bunkerbuster1]

1. "the Obama administration will secretly institute a law..."

Yep, that's how it works!

[DBoon]

24. well that's how the last guy did it

After 8 years, people start to believe it's the way things wil always be run

[bunkerbuster1]

38. riiiiiiiight. the far-right gunloons were softened by by their hatred of Bush!

[customerserviceguy]

30. Did you know that there was a provision

tucked away in the stimulus package that OK'ed AIG bonuses?

It's things like that that give crap like this some credibility in the minds of people already predisposed to distrust President Obama.

[bunkerbuster1]

37. And anyone who thinks that one could ban ammo in a similar fashion is cuckoo.

I don't really care about establishing cred with people like that, frankly.

[MadMaddie]

2. You should send this info to the FBI

They probably already know but it doesn't hurt.

[ZombieHorde]

3. all bullets to have some kind of traceable code on them and any buyer will be forced to show ID

I don't understand why the quote in my subject line would bother anyone. Why are they frightened by easier to trace bullets?

[MineralMan]

6. Perhaps because they have unlawful activity on their

minds, I suppose. It's all part of being part of the 101st Keyboard Warriors. You know...they're ready for the tyranny to begin, and planning to shoot it out with the jack-booted thugs when they come for them.

Something like that, I guess.

If course, if that happens, it's not going to do them any good. A hellfire shot from a drone will make short work of their plans. What do they think? Do they think that the authorities are going to come for them with a search warrant and a smile?

Buncha morons!

[The Straight Story]

10. it is not a very good idea at all

Pick up some casings from a gun range, or anywhere else you may find one and leave it at a crime scene. Traces back to the person that bought it but does not mean they had anything to do with it.

Not all shooters keep their brass for reloading, it gets thrown away - someone knows you shoot, gets into your trash, and so on.

OR if you are using the ammo to kill someone, pick up the casings and don't leave them there.

There is a good discussion of it here (from people on both sides of issue):
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146985&page=10

[RamboLiberal]

14. Or use a revolver - casings stay in the gun n/t

There are some states out there that have floated the idea of traceable ammo - DUMB!

[Hangingon]

39. Not on the case

The idea is to micro engrave or stamp a unique number on the base of the bullet - the projectile. Not that it will be effective but the idea is to drive up the cost of ammunition.

[ZombieHorde]

23. The first poster's avatar in your link is a little distracting.

Pick up some casings from a gun range, or anywhere else you may find one and leave it at a crime scene. Traces back to the person that bought it but does not mean they had anything to do with it.


I guess the serial numbers would make today's unnumbered casings valuable on the black market.

[The Straight Story]

29. My avatar?

That's a pic of me.

[ZombieHorde]

31. No, in the link you provided. The moving avatar.

[DBoon]

25. Color printers already have this type of code

to trace counterfeiters.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/118664/government_uses_color_laser_printer_technology_to_track_documents.html

This would also be a good way for a dictatorship to track the authors of anti-government works - similar to how Eastern block countries would register typewriters

[MineralMan]

4. Funny...I have to show ID to buy ammo, just

like I do for cigarettes and booze...to prove that I'm of legal age to do so.

Just this week, I saw a sale on shotgun shells at my local Fleet Farm, so I bought a couple of boxes of 00 buckshot. I picked up a couple of the new Rapalas while I was there, and a bag of wild bird seed. Got to the cash register to pay and handed over my debit card (gee...it has my name on it) and was asked by the cashier for my driver's license.

Who cares?

[onethatcares]

5. bullet hits something, usually shatters or peels back from tip

where are they gonna put the code? on the cartridge?

[MineralMan]

7. On the butt of the bullet. That usually survives.

Still, the question is: Who cares? I don't, since I'm not planning any illegal activities. I guess that if you are planning such activities, it might be of concern, though...

Bottom line is that they're a buncha morons.

[MineralMan]

8. Forget all that. What did you have at the Mad Greek?

Great place to stop. Far superior to the Bun Boy, thermometer or not.

[Ioo]

9. I hear that Onama is going to make you eat your children on April 11.

And you know what else?

Ever car tire in the world will now start to emite a radio wave telling the government of your location, and you know what else? If you change the tire before it needs it, the lug nuts will gouge out your eyes.

[Warren Stupidity]

11. We already filled them in earlier after the election.

The ammo thing is just the tip of the iceberg. They are all going to be so gay by then that they won't know where to put the bullet, and other manly things like that, anyhow.

[coalition_unwilling]

22. BUT . . . only after we force them to convert

to Islam and pass a test on Marx' "Das Kapital" (not necessarily in that order :)

[laststeamtrain]

12. Get them a map to Wall Street.

Or maybe to some ritzy gated communities.

Let's have us a real fine 4th of July.

[jody]

13. Obama's administration tried to limit ammunition supply by decreeing spent military brass was a

threat to national security. The brass is used for reloading and can be reused perhaps 10-20 times and is one form of recycling.

The administration was forced to retract that policy.

Such attempts by Obama's administration coupled with bills for ammunition encoding in several states adds fuel to speculations like the one cited in the OP.

[Canuckistanian]

15. This sounds like a bonanza for the ammo industry

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the major ammunition companies are "drumming up business" at the RW sites.

[patrice]

16. Dangerous doings! Probably referred to as "patriotism" when it's actually more like Sedition.

[safeinOhio]

17. I love rumors

Tell him you'll bet him a BJ that you can by ammo on July 5th with out ID.

[Uzybone]

18. Who will be responsible for the next Tim McVeigh?

we laugh a bit at all this but domestic terrorism is a greater threat than Al Qeada at this point.

[MineralMan]

19. So, I just did a search on Google...

for "mailing list conservative gun owners" (no quotes). The first hit was a story in Direct Marketing about a company called Complete Mailing Lists that is offering a database of conservative gun owners. Almost a million on the list, for $80/M.

Someone's been data-mining out there. And that's just one list, and I found it with such a simple search.

The list is overlaid with info on things like contributions to conservative organizations, political campaigns, and such-like stuff.

So, the folks who are buying up the ammo and posting rants on the web are probably all on that list. Or most of them, anyhow. No need for the feds to compile a list...they can just buy the list for $80,000.

As I said...buncha morons! They are excited to get those catalogs from ammo companies and all that stuff in the mail. They don't realize that they're already registered, thanks to modern data mining techniques.

[rrneck]

20. Smells like viral marketing. nt

[Donnachaidh]

21. this is your brain on crack and hot sunshine on your helmet

The sheep are easily stirred, it seems.

[jody]

26. Suggest you read WA House bill 3359 to understand more about the issue.

HOUSE BILL 3359

NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. A new section is added to chapter 9.41 RCW to read as follows: Beginning January 1, 2010, all pistol ammunition manufactured in the state, imported into the state, or kept or offered for sale, sold, or transferred in the state, must be coded ammunition as defined in RCW 10 9.41.010.

[TlalocW]

27. You should have joined in

"Not only will the bullets have some sort of traceable code on them, the way it works is that you have to stick each individual bullet up your ass so it can register your DNA, and this has to be done otherwise the bullet won't allow itself to be loaded into your weapon. Obama and his boys think this will actually cut down on people owning guns, but I'll tell ya, they can have mine when they pry them from my cold, dead anus. What about you guys?"

TlalocW

[treestar]

28. But right wingers, you have nothing to hide

Don't you remember saying that? :rofl:

[Sebastian Doyle]

32. I still think Chris Rock had the answer

It ain't about gun control, it's about bullet control.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFcVwDw4YLE

[gratuitous]

33. If I've said it once, I've said it a dozen times

Write it down. Every hare-brained rumor, every stupid assertion. Write it down, have them sign it, and date it. Then every other month or so, check back: Hey, are you still able to buy "untraceable" ammo? Are you still able to breathe free even after the "coup" of July 4?

Just shove it up their collective asses.

[whyisme]

34. Google is our friend

Ammunition Accountability Act
Ammunition Coding

[TexasObserver]

35. Cut and Paste is our best friend.

[K Gardner]

36. The people I work with (all RNs and RWers) are "investing in ammunition". Every

night I have to hear about the latest stockpile they've invested in, how they're "buying up guns before we can't buy them anymore" and talking about ammunition like its the latest gold rush.

It is bizarre. And scary.

[spanone]

40. the President is personally going to climb in peoples windows and steal their ammo

just before the fourth of july