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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:33 PM
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Byron Dorgan calls for financial crimes commit. at Justice and a Senate comm w. subpoena power re: $
re: current financial mess. On Rachel. Make my heart sing.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:44 PM
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1. interesting idea
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:48 PM
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2. For future reference: The usual abbreviation for 'committee' is 'cmte.'
It helps to have such trivia when composing Subject lines. :shrug:


Yes ... Dorgan was right on. I'd like to see him heading it up.

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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:01 PM
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4. Thanks. I appreciate the tip.
:toast:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:52 PM
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3. Dorgan is an under-appreciated guy. He's got weird hair and is not 'cool' enough for folks here. nt
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:03 PM
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6. If he's looking to apply some accountability..
... to the financial actors, then he's cool enough for me :)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:15 PM
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10. He's a real friend of the workin' man and woman. nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 12:12 AM
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13. It is a sin to be cool. nt
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:02 PM
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5. Good, I'm glad somebody is. Go Byron!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:05 PM
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7. Confusing OP title, but great idea
I'm always in favor of subpoena power.

It's been a little-used and rarely-enforced power lately.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:08 PM
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8. He called this republican deregulation bullshit back in 1999 when Graham removed all safeguards
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 09:10 PM by GreenTea
and Dorgan said it will lead to massive bank bailouts in 2010 he was only off by two years, (Dorgan again said this in 1999) those safeguards were put in after the great depression when greedy republicans back then were doing the same thing and the greedy republican corporations did in 1999 and will probably do again in the future!

I saw this great interview on Rachel Maddow's show tonight with Dorgan.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 09:14 PM
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9. I didn't realize that he had predicted this mess ten years ago
What's more he said it would lead to more tax payer bail outs by 2010.
He has walked the walk.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:10 PM
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11. Great, link to video and text from 1999...
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/congress/?q=node/77531&id=8716772

Some snips below.

1999-11-04

"Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, I come to the floor in a circumstance where I will not support the legislation that is before the Senate today. Before I describe the reasons for that, let me say I certainly admire the craftsmanship and the legislative skills of the Senator from Texas and the Senator from Maryland, the Senator from Connecticut, and so many others who have played a role in bringing this legislation to the floor. Frankly, I did not think they were going to get it done, but they did.


In the final hours of the Congress, they bring a piece of legislation to the floor--it is called financial services modernization. I know they feel passionately and strongly it is the right thing to do. For other reasons, I feel very strongly it is the wrong thing to do. I do not come to denigrate their work. We have a philosophical disagreement about this legislation, and I want to describe why.

This legislation repeals some of the major provisions of the Glass-Steagall Act named after Senator Carter Glass from Virginia, and Henry Steagall, a Congressman from Alabama, the primary authors. It will allow banks and security underwriters to affiliate with one another. It also repeals similar provisions in other banking laws to allow banks and insurance firms to marry up. It will permit many new kinds of financial services to be conducted within a financial holding company or a national bank
subsidiary....


....When there is this aggressive move toward even greater concentration--and the concentration we have seen recently ought to be alarming to all of us--but when this increased concentration occurs, we ought to ask the question: Will this be good for the consumer, or will it hurt the consumer? We know it will probably be good for those who are combining and merging. They do that because it is in their interest. But will it be in the public's interest? Will the consumer be better served by larger
and larger companies? Bank mergers, in fact, last year held the top spot in the value of all mergers: More than $250 billion in bank mergers deals last year. That is $250 billion out of $1.6 trillion in merger deals. Of the banks in this country, 10 companies hold about 30 percent of all domestic deposits and are expected to hold more than 40 percent of all domestic assets should the pending bank mergers that now exist be approved.

....Clearly this legislation is not concerned about the rapid rate of consolidation in our financial services industries. The conference report that is before us dropped even a minimal House bill provision that would have required an annual General Accounting Office report to Congress on market concentration in financial services over the next 5 years. Even that minimal step that was in the House bill was dropped in this conference report...


....This bill addresses a lot of issues. But it does nothing, for example, to deal with megabanks engaged in risky derivatives trading. I do not know if many know it, but we have something like $33 trillion in value of derivatives held by U.S. commercial banks in this country.

Federally-insured banks in this country are trading in derivatives out of their own proprietary accounts. You could just as well put a roulette wheel in the bank lobby. That is what it is. I offered amendments on the floor of the Senate when this bill was originally here to stop bank speculation in derivatives in their own proprietary accounts and also to take a look at some sensible regulation of risky hedge funds, but those amendments were rejected. You think there is not risk here? There is
dramatic risk, and it is increasing. This piece of legislation acts as if it does not exist. It ignores it.

A philosopher and author once said: Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. We have a piece of legislation on the floor today that I hope very much, for the sake of not only those who vote for it and believe in it but for the American people who will eventually have to pick up the pieces--I hope this works...



...It may be that I am hopelessly old-fashioned. But I just do not think we should ignore the lessons learned in the 1930s, when we had this galloping behavior by people who believed nothing was ever going to go wrong and you could do banking and securities and all this together--just kind of put it in a tossed salad; it would be just fine--and then we saw, of course, massive failures across this country. And people understood that we did something wrong here: We allowed the financial institutions,
and especially banks in this country, to be involved in circumstances that were inherently risky. It was a dumb thing to do.

The result was, we created barriers saying: Let's not let that happen again. Let's never let that happen again. And those barriers are now being torn down with a bill called financial services modernization....


...Last year, we had a failure of a firm called LTCM, Long-Term Capital Management. It was an organization run by some of the smartest people in the world, I guess, in the area of finance. They had Nobel laureates helping run this place. They had some of the smartest people on Wall Street. They put together a lot of money. They had this hedge fund, unregulated hedge fund. They had invested more than $1 trillion in derivatives in this fund--more than $1 trillion in derivatives value.

Then, with all of the smartest folks around, and all this money, and an enormous amount of leverage, when it looked as if this firm was going to go belly up, just flat out broke, guess what happened. On a Sunday, Mr. Greenspan and the Federal Reserve Board decided to convene a meeting of corresponding banks and others who had an interest in this, saying: You have to save Long-Term Capital Management. You have to save this hedge firm. If you don't, there will be catastrophic results in the economy.

The hit will be too big....


...One final point: With respect to the regulation of risky hedge funds, and especially the issue dealing with the value of derivatives in this country--$33 trillion, a substantial amount of it held by the 25 largest banks in this country, a substantial amount being traded in proprietary accounts of those banks--we must do something to address those issues. That kind of risk overhanging the financial institutions of this country one day, with a thud, will wake everyone up and lead them to ask the
question: Why didn't we understand that we had to do something about that? How on Earth could we have thought that would continue to exist without a massive problem for the American people and for its financial system?

I yield the floor."








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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:33 AM
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15. 1999: He voted against the Glass-Steagal repeal and predicted it would cause a crash in 10 years!
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:31 AM
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16. And voted against the 700 billion TARP bill...
I'm glad he is calling for an investigation.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:51 AM
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17. Being right is the worst political sin in this country, being wrong makes you Larry Summers.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 11:14 AM
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18. True...
competence is too often overlooked for a promotion.

:(


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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:52 PM
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12. Video from the Rachel Maddow show...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:11 AM
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14. If you haven't watched the clip, take a minute and do it.
He's so clear and so sensible. I hope he follows through.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 04:13 PM
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19. Kick for an investigation n/t
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