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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:24 PM Original message |
Billions for high-speed rail; anyone aboard? Not in America... |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. 200 mph trains will always be irrelevant |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You just made the point |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. What makes you say the may be on the way out? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 06:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Kind of depends on the cost of fuel... |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Nowhere Near 600 mph for Short Hops |
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knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I do not agree |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. and much closer to the ground!n/t |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. As always, there is more to it than raw speed... |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Aviation fuel will continue to become more scarce and expensive in the future |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Not in areas like BosWash, California, etc |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. To take the train between LA and San Francisco |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. It's 350 miles; about the same as London to Glasgow |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. As the crow flies? Or as the tracks wind? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 06:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Part of the point of this is to invest in decent tracks |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Not WINDY as in WIND |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Ah, right! |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Don't worry about it |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Heh - it reminds me of a moment in an electronics shop when I was a child |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. You remind me of "Windy Mountain Road" in Westlake Village. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. What, no subway or light rail? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Max speed is not average speed |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. They're not irrelevant in Europe and Asia. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Aren't there 600 mph airplanes in Europe and Asia? |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Of course, or we'd never go there. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Ahh no. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. so how do you explain 55 mph trucks? |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. When you factor in the transit time to and from the airport, the parking hassles..... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. I would love it, but then I liked riding the bus to work in Pgh. for years too, |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. we've never built one because it's never been needed, or particularly wanted by the masses. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 05:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
35. The masses want what's most affordable and convenient |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. That would be just great but if you haven't noticed we are broke |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes we are 'broke'.... |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I just can't see the added deficits |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Well bud, lets talk reality... |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I won't argue we should have deficit spending to |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Doc, I get where you are coming from... |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. The deficit is going to be cut in half, not double |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Don't confuse debt and deficit, the deficit will be cut in half |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. At least you admit you're a repuke...sorry - we don't agree with you at all... |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Just because I disagree with this President's |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Consider the idea of "return on investment." |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'll tell you what: |
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rebecca_herman (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I'd rather take a train... |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. The point is that taking a train in the US sucks now... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. This is exactly the point |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. anything roughly around and under 400 miles, high speed rail is faster. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. An additional point is public transportation |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. As a train fan... |
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Optical.Catalyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
39. High speed trains are good, but the Government needs to make Public Transportations more attractive |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. What's your definition of a necessary use of an automobile? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
51. America is bigger than Japan and most European countries. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. rail connects the entire european land mass, including eastern europe. bigger than the us. |
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