Bachmann and Hannity Talk Violent Overthrow of the Government

[BurtWorm]

Bachmann is the Helen Chenoweth of the 2000s--except she's too stupid to seem to know what she's doing.


From Steve Benen:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_03/017477.php


March 27, 2009

BACHMANN WANTS A REVOLUTION.... Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) -- who is, by the way, mad as a hatter -- appeared on a radio show earlier this week, describing elected Democratic officials as the "enemy" and encouraging her constituents to be "armed and dangerous." Soon after, appearing on Sean Hannity's radio show, Bachmann went even further.

"We are headed down the lane of economic Marxism. More quickly, Sean, than anyone could have possibly imagined. It's difficult for us to even keep up with it day to day....

"<I>t's like Thomas Jefferson said, a revolution every now and then is a good thing. We are at the point, Sean, of revolution. And by that, what I mean, an orderly revolution -- where the people of this country wake up get up and make a decision that this is not going to happen on their watch. It won't be our children and grandchildren that are in debt. It is we who are in debt, we who will be bankrupting this country, inside of 10 years, if we don't get a grip. And we can't let the Democrats achieve their ends any longer.

"If Tim Geithner is successful under President Obama, and they move us to an international currency. Then we have no hope of standing on our own as a sovereign nation with our own economic system. It's over. We can't do that."

She went on to decry "tyranny" being "enforced upon the people," adding that "our very freedom" is at stake.

Now, Bachmann simply isn't well. Were she not an elected member of the U.S. Congress, she'd probably be shouting conspiracy theories and holding cardboard signs on some sidewalk somewhere. But what I find especially interesting is that her paranoid delusions are so detached from obvious truths. If Bachmann wanted to complain that a 39.6% top rate was the epitome of Marxism, she'd be just another conservative. But she's convinced herself that the Obama administration will "move us to an international currency," due entirely to her breathtaking stupidity.

My fear, at this point, is that lunacy from deranged politicians and their media allies is going to end up getting someone hurt. Republican officials believe they should emulate the insurgency tactics of the Taliban. They see themselves as "freedom fighters" taking on the "slide toward socialism." They want a "revolution" because Americans "can't let" Democrats succeed in taking away "our very freedom."

This is obviously madness, not from some right-wing blog, but from elected federal officials. But I worry it's more than that. Incendiary rhetoric like this leads strange people to do strange things.

[liberal N proud]

1. I wonder, do they really believe the shit that is frothing from their mouths?

Or is this just rhetoric to rile the base and incite riots?

[CatholicEdHead]

26. She might

It was her railing "against the gays" in the MN Legislature which helped her get the seat int he 6th. :puke:

She immediately dropped that and went like the second coming of Reagan once she was in DC.

Of course she also gutted the MN GOP in the 6th district in her initial run for the House, they worked to push out all opposition. Most moderate Republicans were forced or quit in disgust as empty-eyed Bachmann supporters pushed her up and forward.

[Chisox08]

30. She might

But if was more profitable for most of those Fixed Noise hacks to switch sides they would in a heartbeat.

[madaboutharry]

2. I think she needs a visit from

the Secret Service.

[Beer Snob-50]

3. do you think

that some in the repubican party are trying to shut her up. i hope that the intelligent faction of the repubs are not believing this intenational currency shit. or believing that most of the country believes it.

[Beetwasher]

6. Nah, It's Obviously Every Idiot For Themselves In The GOP These Days

A regular free-for-all. It's in complete and utter collapse phase.

[terisan]

4. Quoting Thomas Jefferson and talking about orderly revolution is not incendiary to me.

I am also against tyranny and Wall St. bailouts and want to hear Democratic party elected officials rail against them too.

Would have like to hear Dems shout "Tryanny!" during the past 2 years we voted them into the majority. They seemed to have spent much of their time collecting campaign money from big corporations instead.

[BurtWorm]

10. She's accusing the Obama admin of being Marxist.

She's got a Red Dawn fantasy going. When Clinton was elected, the right went into a similar armed defense mode. We wound up with the militia movement and Oklahoma City.

[onenote]

18. actually, the militia movement pre-dates the Clinton administration

The Posse Comitatus group formed in the 80s. And the uptick in militia activity in the 1990s -- and the OK City bombing -- was principally a response to the Waco and Ruby Ridge situations. It wasn't simply a reaction to Clinton's election

[BurtWorm]

20. Good point. But people like Rush Limbaugh and Helen Chenoweth

were egging them on.

[terisan]

28. What are the chances of a concerted effort to defeat her in 2010 on her

stands on fair tax and social security privatization ?

[Tempest]

11. What's so orderly about the people her message is geared to?

She's speaking, in full knowledge of, the lowest form of humanity in the U.S., rightwing knuckledraggers.

[robertpaulsen]

17. Me neither. But when she follows that up by saying she wants people "armed & dangerous"....

That kind of negates the "orderly" part and makes me question just how sincere that desire is.

[onenote]

21. the "armed and dangerous " remark wasn't a "follow up" to her blather with hannity

it actually was from a separate radio interview done earlier and it was specifically (and bizarrely) in reference to Obama's cap and trade legislation, as in "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back."

While I suppose some might argue that is a call for violent overthrow of the government. Most however would simply see it as the unintelligble ravings of nutjob.

[robertpaulsen]

23. Context is everything. Yes, she is clearly a nutjob.

And while her ravings are not specific enough to qualify as an According to Hoyle act of sedition, the nutjobs she appeals to might very read something specific into her blather as a call to use those arms.

Thanks for pointing out those were separate interviews, but I still think her call for an "orderly" revolution is disingenuous.

[jberryhill]

27. There is a certain mindset....

Trivia Quiz For You:

What did Tim Mcveigh's t-shirt say, when he blew of the Oklahoma City federal building?

Front:



Back:



Now, go over to Freeperville and look at the sig lines.

Yes, it is a Jefferson quote, and yes it has a particular modern context.

[lurky]

5. There seems to be a Pinochet faction on the right.

People like her and Glen Beck are pushing right up to the edge of open treason without breaking the letter of the law. Let's hope they and their comrades are not nuts enough to actually try something.

[sweetpotato]

7. She really missed the party, didn't she?

The ruination of the country and the outright treason occurred during an earlier administration, I think.

Where was she then, when our actual freedoms were being stripped? Hmmmm?

[Politicalboi]

8. After the Repukes raped us

Now they are concerned. Fuck you Michelle. At this point I don't care what Obama does. They didn't care all the time Bush was fucking us so why the fuck should we care now. I sort of wish Obama would use the dictatorship laws Bush had and lock these loons up.

[Beetwasher]

9. The Repub Party Is In Complete And Utter Collapse Phase

They don't have a fucking clue what to do. I really think they're going to become extinct and splinter into factions.

[WeDidIt]

12. The STOOPID! It BURNZ!!!

The irony oozes from this since Bachman called for investigations into Congresspersons to determine if they have an anti-American agenda.

[inna]

35. that's right! now i remember, she was the one who wanted a 'penetrating expose" on

allegedly anti-American activities! what a neoMcCarthyist nutjob.

:shrug:

[flor de jasmim]

13. Revolution? We did that already--we elected Obama.

[rucky]

14. She's using this to whip-up the Rapture Ready folks.

one world currency fears

[sinkingfeeling]

15. Didn't Michele demand that members of Congress be investigated for their 'anti-American' views? Is

she going to investigate herself?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. One Sarah Palin comedy act isn't enough?

[krispos42]

38. If those two stood side-by-side...

They could pool their talents and walk. Or chew gum.





But not both.

[chrisa]

19. Her first.

The people who speak so kindly of war are the first ones running away.

[rockymountaindem]

22. If only she knew what she was talking about... n/t

[JuniperLea]

24. Idiots. The Revolution has already begun...

And the RW lost! Dumbasses are always a day late and a dollar short.

[rhett o rick]

33. Michelle is a dollar and a half short. nm

[cascadiance]

25. So if she wants to keep Guantanamo, SEND HER AND HANNITY THERE!

... for the terrorism they are fomenting now!!

[GreenTea]

29. The republican tried to overthrow FDR with the military...yet FDR succeeded

(after the plot was exposed) in making this country stronger, as well as a more responsive government to it's tax paying workers and it's people....

Republicans and their corporations despise this concept, it goes against everything republican ideology stands for...Republicans only want socialism for the rich, the corporations and themselves.

[guruoo]

31. IMO, a legally veiled effort to inspire acts of 'leaderless terrorism' e.g.:

Tenn. church shooter hoped attack would spur more
AP

By DUNCAN MANSFIELD, Associated Press Writer Duncan Mansfield, Associated Press Writer – Thu Mar 12, 7:56 pm ET

...

Adkisson left a four-page suicide note in his SUV in the church parking lot. In it, he described the attack as "a hate crime," "a political protest" and "a symbolic killing."

He railed against extending constitutional rights to terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, about the news media being "the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party," and how he would like to kill every major Democrat in Congress. But he said they were inaccessible and decided to go after "the foot soldiers, the (expletive) liberals that vote in these traitorous people."

Adkisson concluded, "I'd like to encourage other like-minded people to do what I've done. If life ain't worth living anymore don't just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go kill liberals."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/ap_on_re_us/church_shooting_tennessee

[rhett o rick]

32. "she'd probably be shouting conspiracy theories and holding cardboard signs on some sidewalk

somewhere." What's wrong with that? Doesn't everyone do that? oh, you mean it's just me?? Dang

[depakid]

34. The woman is quite literally delusional

Which makes you wonder about the Minnesotans who voted for her. A bit frightening, when you think about it.

[krispos42]

36. We're a sovereign nation with our own economic system?

:rofl:

Tell that to the trans-nationals and the WTO.



Hey, Michelle... we did wake up and make a decision. That's why you're in the MINORITY PARTY!

[krispos42]

37. Whups, dupe, delete n/t

[burning rain]

39. OK, when will the House *at least* censure this character?

Tolerance is a fine lefty value, but enabling incitement to sedition by condoning it with silence and inaction, is carrying it too damn far.

[HughBeaumont]

40. If stupid were a grain of sand, Michelle Bachmannnnn would be the Mohave Desert.

I don't think SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy would take her.

[lonestarnot]

41. Can you imagine if Keith had said that shit in the first months of the bushitler?

[myrna minx]

42. I apologize on behalf of the State of Minnesota. n/t

[Odin2005]

43. I want them to try. They will be crushed and GOP will be tarnished as the party of treason.

We'll finally get our chance to crush these lunatics once and for all and purge them from the body social.

[Djinn]

44. how can ANYONE with an IQ over room temp

think that the current administration is even remotely akin to Marxist? Oh hang on - we're talking Faux, few IQ's over room temp there

[wroberts189]

45. But Henry Reid says its liberals that are the exremists...

Reid Tells Liberals To "Back Off"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5341928

snip

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Friday that liberal groups targeting moderate Democrats with ads should back off, saying pressure from the left wing of his party won't be helpful to enacting legislation.

snip

“I’m not one who is going to be driven by people on the extremes, saying it’s only my way or no way,” Reid said. “That’s not the way legislation works.”

[arcadian]

46. Where the fuck were these people when Bush was setting up a fascist dictatorship?

Waving the god damn fucking American flag no doubt.

[Marr]

47. It's not the talk of revolution that bothers me, exactly.

It's the fact that she's saying Republicans have "had enough" after just two months.

They had the government for at least the last eight years-- and arguably longer than that. They put us in the mess we're in now. But this schmuck thinks she can stamp her feet after *two months* and say she's had enough?

[vinylsolution]

48. The good folks of Minnesota....

.... should rise up and overthrow Bachmann.

Make an example of her, and keep the rest of the reich-wingers in line.