This is sick - a rally for Lovell Mixon - A suspected rapist, who killed four police officers

[HardWorkingDem]

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/306703.html

Here are two clips from a rally for Lovell Mixon.

Some people are even calling this man a "hero." Shit like this is why "liberals" are seen as wacko and off base.

The second clip really shows why some people just continue to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to true movement forward when it comes to race relations. People in this clip are portraying Mixon like he is on par with true leaders of civil rights.


This man was a thug piece of crap who probably victimized people regardless of race or gender.

Disgusting.

[Texasgal]

1. How do you know they are "liberals?"

[malaise]

2. Suppose he was not a rapist? Suppose he was like all the

other innocents in prison. What then? Does he deserve a rally?

[Tangerine LaBamba]

5. Suppose he had no record at all,

but just killed four people.

Does that earn him a posthumous rally?

The rally is not about Mixon - it's about anger and poverty and impotence.

Oakland's a dangerous place right now. Good luck, Ron Dellums..........

[malaise]

20. That's how I saw it as well

When you view people as 'thug pieces of crap' and treat them that way, what else do you build but anger.

I don't support the killing of police ever, but I have no doubt that people in that community have been victims of cobs as well. Look what happened to that poor guy who was slaughtered by cops in full view of the public at New Years at the train station. A victimized community lashes out.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

21. Oakland's been a horrible place

for so long. It's got such a wonderful history, and there are so many great parts of it, not to mention its location, but the last forty years have been deadly for the city.

I think it's great that Ron Dellums went home to be its mayor. He's terrific. But I can also see even more violence erupting in Oakland. The next few days are going to be dicey.

And, as always, yes, it's poverty, anger, disenfranchisement, and frustration. Why doesn't anyone realize that? I'm gonna live my whole life watching the same old crap as I saw in the fifties and sixties when blacks dared to challenge the segregation laws.

It's hearbreaking .............................

[liberalhistorian]

6. Hell, no. You ain't no hero if you kill four police officers,

especially if they fired at you only because you started firing at them first.

[HardWorkingDem]

7. For what?!?

What does this man deserve a rally for?

I could understand a rally if this man was truly a man of civil rights and actually victimized, but this piece of garbage is not.

Regardless if one likes police officers or not, this man killed four human beings while apparently unprovoked. He's not a victim at all.

[TWiley]

53. oops

post was in the wrong spot

[Marr]

16. Suppose he stood three apples high and had blue skin.

What?

[geek tragedy]

23. The other cop-murdering innocents? n/t

[alphafemale]

34. All the other "innocents" in prison....aw jeez

I don't know where to begin with that so I think I'll just leave it alone then.

[cherokeeprogressive]

48. A rally for killing four police officers after a routine traffic stop?

Tell me you're not serious.

[devilgrrl]

3. Why are links to breitbart faux drudge politico allowed on DU.

Especially when they post nothing that isn't bullshit?

[HardWorkingDem]

9. These same clips are at Youtube...

And really, what does it matter where a clip comes from as long as it's an accurate report?


I do have to say, the young woman in the first clip who is finding a way to improve things through this tragedy was promising to hear.

[Bluebear]

13. Because nobody was called a "liberal" in those clips

[HardWorkingDem]

17. My point was...

that if these clips are shown more widely (and we can all probably all agree that the conservative-right-wing noise machines will do just that), at the base level and due to the lack of depth when it comes to the mainstream media distinguishing between all factions of politics, these crowds are going to be described as liberal, left or Democratic.

My point is, the right wing noise machine will sell this "rally" as just that - that liberals are holding up Mixon as a "hero."

Heck, I can imagine Bill O'Lielly all ready.

[Texasgal]

19. This what you said.

"Shit like this is why "liberals" are seen as wacko and off base."

How does that explain:

"the right wing noise machine will sell this "rally" as just that - that liberals are holding up Mixon as a "hero."

Just what exactly is your POINT, because at this point you are talking out both sides of your mouth.

[HardWorkingDem]

25. What I meant was....

The right wing noise machine will show these clips ad nauseam and declare the people involved in this as every day liberals and then use this as a way to portray every day liberals.

People like O'Lielly will use this clip, as other conservative pundits, and say something like, "Let me show you what the liberals are up to today. Believe it or not, liberals are praising Mixon as a hero."

I'm not trying to point out that the crowd in this rally are liberals, but that they will be used to be show as liberals.

Hope that clears it up.

[EFerrari]

24. I can, too, but that speaks more to how the word has been made dirty

than anything approaching reality. Obama is a socialist Muslin gun grabbing America hater, remeber?

[Telly Savalas]

58. Are we talking about the same right-wing noise machine

that has helped propel the GOP into a minority in the House and Senate, and lost them the White House?

[liberalhistorian]

4. I totally agree and I'm speechless.

That is so many kinds of bullshit that I don't even know which layer of bullshit to start with. And you're right, they really set us back. They need to get their heads out of their asses now. I'm tired of the assumption that just because someone's a minority, any adverse interaction with the majority is automatically the majority's fault and the minority can do no wrong. Even if he's a rapist career criminal thug piece of shit like Mixon. There needs to be accountability and responsibility, period.

[depakid]

12. It's Oakland- and if you knew the history of that community

you might grasp why this occurring.

Has nothing at all to do with "liberals."

[HardWorkingDem]

29. Then pick a person who deserves the attention.....

A rally like this does more harm than good. It turns people off except for those in the choir.

I mean, exactly who or what group of people are those holding this rally trying to engage? Because if they are trying to engage sincere people who can make a difference, they are not doing it. If anything, I think what it does is make people ignore them not only in disgust but in disbelief.

Mixon was not some sort of "victim" from anything I've read about his background. Nor has he apparently done anything to foster civil rights or improve the quality of life.

[EFerrari]

32. But you miss the point that, aside from the possible opportunistic assholes,

this incident doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. It's only the latest in a decades long string of incidents.

Maybe these people were totally cynical bastards -- that's possible.

But to get other people to join them, those other people have to be fed up BEYOND belief. And that is a dangerous situation because it means the brains have been shut down.

[omega minimo]

47. It's appears these are acts and messages of desperation from a socioeconomic war zone

yes it's hard to understand or relate to but sneering at this "piece of crap" and the community you don't care about from lily white Illinois makes "liberals" look clueless also.

This is not a sanitized marketing ploy with team leaders workshopping "exactly who or what group of people are those holding this rally trying to engage."

This is reality. As is the 10,000 turnout at the memorial in the arena for the 4 officers.

[liberalhistorian]

31. I don't care if it's Oakland

or Disneyland. NOTHING this man did deserves any accolades or a rally. I don't care what the history of a community is, everyone is responsible and accountable for their own actions and choices. HE chose to shoot first at THEM and murdered four people. It doesn't fucking matter what the goddamned history is, he was still a career criminal who murdered four people.

[EFerrari]

33. What a strange statement coming from a liberal historian. n/t

[Tim01]

38. What? Liberal historians are supposed to be understanding of murdering rapists?

Is it the liberal part or the historian part that makes them sympathetic to these animals?

[EFerrari]

46. Excuse me? I was referring to the repudiation of context

lol, which is what history is, basically. And btw, understanding is not agreement.

[liberalhistorian]

42. I'm truly sorry that I do not think exactly the way

that you seem to demand. NOT.

[depakid]

36. This shit has been going on for decades-for two generations or more

the community and the police have maintained an adversarial relationship- and the present series of events is only the latest flare-up.

Totally unsurprising.

[vadawg]

39. and its gonna get worse, who the hell is going to police these idiots fairly

after watching them deify a cop killer. Wouldnt surprise me if we have cases of the blue flu in this precint.

[depakid]

40. It'll get worse, better, worse etc

Been going a LONG time.

https://coral.uchicago.edu:8443/download/attachments/9928983/Hueybobby.jpg

[vadawg]

41. Tell you what if they want to start to police their neighbourhoods fine

but trust me it wont be long until the people start to beg the city to put cops back onto the streets. There may be some bad cops, some who make mistakes and some indifferent cops, but it sure beats the hell out of the alternative.

[omega minimo]

49. Untwist your knickers and honestly ask yourself: why does the community feel compelled to do this?

I don't know the answer but I know that IT DOES MATTER THAT IT'S OAKLAND AND THAT'S HOW BAD THINGS ARE THERE.

Get a CLUE.

It doesn't make it RIGHT. It shows something is very WRONG.

[AngryOldDem]

55. I think a quote I heard from a woman in Oakland pretty much sums it up.

"If you don't live here, you don't really know what it's like."

[aikoaiko]

8. Either poor police-community relations have driven these protesters batshit crazy...

...or they are exploitative attention seeking pieces of shit.

[Bluebear]

10. Gee, "Dem": Where did it say it was "LIBERALS" who were rallying?

[Texasgal]

14. Thank you.

I've been awaiting an answer to that very same question.

[HardWorkingDem]

15. Well......it's a broad brush...I agree

and even though they didn't call themselves "liberals," we all get lumped together in the broad brush of "liberals" and "conservatives"...

[omega minimo]

50. Well there's that.

:hi:

[pecwae]

11. A "hero" for what exactly?

I can't see anything he did that was heroic.

[EFerrari]

18. It doesn't surprise me in the least.

In a place with the horrible bad blood between the PD and the black community, I'm just hoping no one else gets hurt right now.

[imdjh]

43. Read the Uhuru website before you continue this mess. Please. link in post

This is disinformation. The Uhuru specialize in it, particularly promoting to young, uneducated, and often semi-literate black males in urban poverty districts.

http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=uhuru-movement-statement-on-lovelle-mixon

The covered badge represents police killed while carrying out the colonial occupation of the African community. Just like the resistance of Nat Turner and Gabriel Prosser, enslaved Africans once vilified and today considered heroes, African people in Oakland have a right to struggle against this government-imposed terror.


The deaths of four members of the OPD on March 21, 2009, were the result of these relentless policies, which are manifested daily in the cold-blooded police murders, brutality and harassment of African men and women, youth and elderly by the heavily armed, military style Oakland police force;


Defend African People's Right to Resist! Vigil for Lovelle Mixon, Oakland, 3/25/09: audio
by dave id
Thursday Mar 26th, 2009 1:59 AM
The International People's Democratic Uhuru Movement (InPDUM) sponsored a march, rally, and vigil for Lovelle Mixon on Wednesday, March 25th. Lovelle Mixon's mother, his wife, several of his brothers, and at least one cousin were present. Many people were upset with the all of the official sympathies expressed for the four police officers who died Saturday, while none was offered to the family of Lovelle Mixon and the Oakland police continue to level new allegations against Lovelle Mixon in the media every day. That the media reports all of those allegations -- and does not hold the police accountable for the numerous people of color killed by Oakland police every year -- was a great source of anger as well. For instance, it has not been reported in the corporate media that one of the officers wounded but not killed on Saturday, Sgt. Patrick Gonzales, is responsible for the deaths of Gary King and Joshua Russell, as well as leaving Ameir Rollins in a quadriplegic state. While new charges against Lovelle Mixon are made every day by Oakland police, the records of the officers killed Saturday remain hidden and there has been little to no public examination of what police did that day.

At the rally at Eastmont Mall, a variety of interpretations of the what happened Saturday were offered, as well as various strategies for fighting the forces that continue to work against Oakland's working class, but everyone was united in that vigorous resistance is needed.

Shanrika and Bakari Olatunji spoke at the Uhuru House before the march headed down MacArthur Blvd, passing the building on 74th Avenue where Lovelle Mixon was killed by an Oakland Police SWAT team. The march continued on to the old police substation at Eastmont Mall where many speakers took turns addressing the crowd. Apparently, the City has not yet returned Lovelle Mixon's body to the family, but they hope to have him back in time for a funeral service on March 31st at Fuller Funeral Home on International Blvd..

[EFerrari]

44. Continue what mess? I'm not agreeing with these people in any way. n/t

[imdjh]

51. Sorry then. I must have misread the post, I'll blame it on being on my first cup of coffee. nt

[EFerrari]

52. Happens to me all the time.

:)

[geek tragedy]

22. There are morally bankrupt people everywhere.

Those sick fucks prove nothing else.

[sam sarrha]

26. totally STAGED by ReThuglicans to blame the Liberals for doing it.. only they are that Fuck'n STUPID

Rove must have been drunk when he thought that up,

[cali]

30. that is completely bat shit crazy.

[40ozDonkey]

35. A thousand words for that post...

[rvablue]

27. I agree it's disgusting, but how in the hell do you know if they are "liberals" ? n/t

[vadawg]

28. this shit sickens me, i was persuaded by my wife to attend one of the DC protests

and when the crap about Mumia started my wife apoligised for bringing me, all this does is turn people away in disgust.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

37. Insanity

I don't care if you hate the police or not, no civilized person should morn the death of a Thief/Mass Kill/Rapist/Child Rapist. I live in the East Bay, and while I don't live in Oakland, I do get around as much as possible. The mentally here sure is strange.

I talked to my friends in NY about this incident, and none of them can understand how people can support Mixon. While many of my friends are no fan of the police, they assured me that if the incident occurred in NYC, you would not get the same reaction from the black community.

My younger brother, who lives in a housing project with my mom and dad in Brooklyn said it best, "we talk to police in this neighborhood".

[jody]

45. The International People's Democratic Uhuru Movement sponsored this event. Are they a hate group to

be added to the Southern Poverty Law Center list?

SPLC Hate Groups Map

[HardWorkingDem]

57. I wonder how this group of people - thankfully small - feel now that..

it is being reported Mixon is suspected of possibly up to seven rapes and one of the victim's being a 12 yr old girl.

Also, of these victim's, I wonder how many come from the same community that the people in rally are from.

Disgusting.

[TWiley]

54. Why are those "Liberals?"

Why do you equate their insane actions with "liberal?" I saw no evidence of political affiliation either way.

[HardWorkingDem]

56. Final clarification......done in folllow-up threads...

As another poster replied, groups like this are used to constantly dirty up the word "liberal"....I did not mean or intend to imply the people in this rally were "liberals" but that this rally would be used by the likes of Bill O'Rielly and Limpball to taint all liberals and Democrats.


If the right wing noise machine has not picked up on these idiots, then I am very surprised.