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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:24 PM
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Cool a Do Not Mail List! Good on San Francisco!
San Francisco leads the charge for Do Not Mail

This week, the city of San Francisco came closer to becoming the first municipality in the country to take action against junk mail. On Monday, the full Board of Supervisors will vote on a resolution in support of a state and national Do Not Mail Registry. We're in the home-stretch!

San Francisco is setting the stage for other cities and states to take similiar action, creating the momentum we need to make the waste and destruction of the junk mail history. Read more. http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=4vr%2BVkI9diObiPMwkJwT%2BAipg4Z7DEn7


http://donotmail.org/blog/
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:31 PM
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1. Recommended, good lord please every other city must do this.
I can't believe how hard it is to make them stop.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:36 PM
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2. The Direct Marketing organizeion. to get off or on catalog and mail lists
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 06:21 AM
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12. Thank you for sharing that site here. Didn't even know it existed. Thanks, HillbillyBob. n/t
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SPedigrees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:40 PM
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3. I just wonder how much mail
I wish to receive would get lost in such a junk mail ban.

I don't use a spam filter on my email for this reason. I receive bulk mailing of medical journals and list-serves, and don't appreciate a computer program rifling through any of it and deciding what is fit to send. I much prefer to delete my own viagra ads thank you.

By snail mail I receive catalogues and other odd bits of mail that would likely fall victim to this sort of junk net. It all smacks of big brother tactics to me.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:49 PM
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4. I can't imagine that the city has the authority to do anything about it.
But it's a nice sentiment.

Truth be told, we the people might not have the authority to ban junk mail. And if we do, I don't see why politics and religion should be exempt.

But we do have the authority to stop SOME junk mail, or should have the authority.

Maybe they can slip it into the banking bill that customers MUST be given the option of not receiving advertising or special offers fro the companies they do business with.

One of the biggest wastes of paper and money in the US mail, is the US government. Every year, I get a calendar from a congressman I can't stand. Every month (perhaps quarter) every Medicare (and medicare provider or whatever they call Humana) gets a completely unnecessary statement about their prescription drug usage. This could easily be available online.

Every year, every Medicare recipient gets a huge catalogue detailing the medical coverage, and if anyone has ever read this thing, I have never heard of him. One certainly has no need ( or time) to check it before the ambulance comes. They could make it available online and/or by request.

I've never bought anything from the Valpak, but I can see how small businesses would like to think that Valpak works, and for all I know it does. BTW, as I understand it, Valpak actually has all their paste up and printing done OUTSIDE THE US. It's hard to imagine what job can't be deported these days.

Dear car companies- your ads are all lies and have no business coming to my house. Three times I went to your showrooms looking for the $13,000 car, and three times all I got was a barrage of bullshit. So fuck you and your ads.

Dear real estate companies- WAKE UP!

Dear We Buy Houses- go back to selling crack, think of your reputation.

Dear GEICO- You must be kidding. You piece of shit company, you useless mother fuckers. You lying sons a beaches.

Dear AIG - LOL!

And finally: Dear Mortgage Company- If I wanted to buy sleezy insurance, I would go to GEICO. Leave me alone, or I'm sending you the keys, and you really don't want that.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:16 PM
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6. Please tell me more about your experience with Geico if you have time.
I was thinking about switching. :shrug: Why are they so horrible?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:59 PM
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9. It's probably any insurance company. Some people like them and some don't.
They have never given me a quote that was a savings, and when one of their insureds hit my dad's car a couple of years ago they dicked him around for months.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:43 AM
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15. I see, thanks for that information.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:53 PM
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5. What's to stop everyone from putting the junk mail in the nearest postal box?
Surely if they can put it in my box, I can put it back in theirs.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:17 PM
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7. Won't you just get it back again? Job security for a postal worker?
Poor bastards.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:53 PM
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8. I don't know, I was afraid to do it actually
Is suppose it's technically putting trash in a postal box, which is probably a federal crime. It would make a good court case though- the USPS claiming that it's trash and me saying "Really? Then why did you put it in my mailbox?"
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 12:24 AM
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10. The Post Office should use this to increase revenue
If someone signs up on a "no junk mail" then anyone who wants to send junk mail to those recipients has to pay a premium, like twice the usual amount.

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ellisD Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 06:15 AM
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11. Shouldnt need a law for this
It should be as simple as a note in/on the mailbox, something like:

Dear Mail Carrier - Do not deliver coupons, fliers, or letters addressed to resident, occupant, etc or mail without an specific intended recipient at this household. Thank You

I tried that once, the next day my note was on the ground and my box was full of supermarket ads. Besides the pain in the butt that is taking the junk to the recycling bin, and the obvious waste of paper sending home repair/improvement fliers to a person renting an apartment, I've grown especially annoyed with both junk mail, and my mail carrier - this idiot who delivers to my apt complex has on several occasions destroyed a cd in the back of a book by bending the book in half so they could make sure to fit in all that junk mail in the box too! :grr:
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 06:41 AM
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14. Sadly, only first-class mail can be refused/returned to sender
by addressee. I asked my mail carrier about putting a similar directive on my mailbox, but the carrier must deliver bulk mail to addressee no matter the addressee's wishes. It is only with first-class mail that the victims of the deluge have the right to right "refused" across it and have the post office return it to sender. :(

Since then, when I am particularly annoyed, I redact the recipient address on bulk mail with a pen, scratching so hard that it peels right off, so the mail carrier can't tell who did it. I then stuff it in the outbound box (I too live in an apartment complex). :D
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:54 AM
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16. Asking your mail carrier to break the law...
in a way that would create extra work for them is a bit stupid.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 06:22 AM
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13. Hope it works wonderfully well in the area, and catches on everywhere. Thanks, lonestarnot. n/t
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:20 PM
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17. The USPS
makes the bulk of their revenue off of the direct marketing bulk mailing spam...good luck getting it stopped altogether. A do not mail registry sounds nice, though. I signed up on the DMA do not mail noted at the link in the above post, but it hasn't made any difference. Still 2 or 3 a week from what I want to stop, K(ame)-(Ap)art, Wal-Mart, plus all grocercy chains, even ones with no store in town. Just work for me to do the recycling, and I'm sure I'm the one in 100,000 people who actually recycle this crap.
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