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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:11 PM
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Can a person be offended by both of the following?
1. You doubt that a particular claim made by that person is actually true.

2. You try to conceal your doubt because you suspect that the person would be offended by your doubt.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:14 PM
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1. No ......
You reference the offence as registered by two separate individuals. There is a negative correlation in this case
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:18 PM
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3. Can armchair theorizing settle this question or is observational study required?
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:24 PM
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6. There are rules you know ..... Test vs Observation
The rules for testing are much different from the rules which govern observation. Butt hell yes, some observational study IS required.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:18 PM
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2. Might they be offended by the doubt in both cases?
Their offense at 1. is obvious.

Re 2., Trying to conceal your doubt means that you doubt, which is what they are offended by in the first place, not the fact that your trying to conceal it.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:21 PM
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5. It's possible that the effort at concealment simply reveals the doubt...
and that only the doubt itself provokes offense. However, isn't it also possible that the effort at concealment itself provokes offense?

I suppose that a related question is: can a person be genuinely offended by something that would be a slanderous accusation if it were false, but that is actually not slanderous because it is true?
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:26 PM
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7. the slanderer is pleased to make the comment .... the victim is not
Butt, isn't that the purpose of misery ..... the unvarnished joy it brings to other people?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:49 PM
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11. Who is "the slanderer"?
The question refers to something "that would be a slanderous accusation if it were false, but that is actually not slanderous."
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 03:06 PM
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12. Concealment would be an offense if a lie were preferred.
Truth, whether disagreeable or not, is generally regarded as a strength, unless it is an un-founded truth, in which case it's little more than an echo and, thus, a weakness which needs disguising, so a lie IS preferrable.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:25 PM
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14. What do you mean by the phrase "un-founded truth"?
An example might be helpful.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:20 PM
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4. I am offended by both your questions
so yes :)
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:27 PM
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8. I doubt it. But, please don't be offended.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:39 PM
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9. Is that true?
I mean, could you... you know... pretty please provide a link? (if it wouldn't be too much trouble?)

Nah. If I think you're full of shit enough to merit a reply, I'll say so.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:47 PM
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10. Chomsky is not a physicist....so I doubt your quotation.
Please don't be offended.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:23 PM
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13. After I change my signature, I don't want that to become an obscure reference.
So here is a copy of my signature:

People don’t scoff at theories of physics that refer to entities and principles that seem weird and counter-intuitive. However, somewhere beyond physics there is a boundary and everything changes. This is worse than Cartesian dualism, which was a scientific hypothesis, naturalistic in spirit. Abandoning this dualist stance, we shall pursue inquiry where it leads. – Chomsky (inexact quote)


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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:26 PM
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15. like another patented Bouncy story?
i find many of them funny because thery're so absurd.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:26 PM
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16. Only a dishonest person would not be offended.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:52 PM
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17. Is the person offended more by the doubting or the concealment?
That would tell a lot about the person. And even more about the person's true veracity.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 03:46 PM
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18. Kick to encourage more comments
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 04:07 PM
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19. I suppose they could take offense, although whether the degree of offense
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 04:09 PM by saltpoint
justifies our paying attention to it is another question entirely.

Until at least the mid-80s it was illegal in some Oklahoma towns to drink beer in your underwear. Drinking beer in one's undies does't strike me as an unpardonable offense. Perhaps I hold a minority view on this urgent issue.

The law was so poorly written as to suggest that one would use one's underwear and not a can, bottle, or glass, or other container, to drink beer.

I'm not the final authority on beer drinking in the known universe, but from a lay perspective, I feel that a can, bottle, or glass would be a preferable delivery system for beer as opposed to underwear.

Again, I'm just speaking for myself.

I'm more offended by the idiocy of the Oklahoma law than by the notion that someone, somewhere, is drinking beer in their underwear, presumably in warm enough weather so that other articles of clothing are not needed. Jimmy Buffett lives in Florida, so it might make more sense for him to sit on the back porch in hs underwear and drink beer than it would for someone who lives in say, Minot, North Dakota, in the dead of winter.

If I lived in Minot, North Dakota, and if it was the dead of winter, I would not need an official on-the-books prohibition to not drink beer in my underwear. I would not drink beer in my underwear voluntarily.

Thank you, and God Bless America.

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