The growing backlash is not an illusion

[cleveramerican]

Two possible reasons
Obama is reaching too far, without enough public support.Which is really the hard part.
The situation is even more dire than any dare say.

[UTUSN]

1. Shrub acted like he had actually WON "without enough public support"!1 n/t

[cleveramerican]

2. not likely to fall for that again

[NightWatcher]

3. backlash? reaching too far? are you speaking in code or something

[cleveramerican]

15. which word are you unfamiliar with?

[bullimiami]

4. i think a good majority believe obama is trying to do good by us.

i think we understand it wont be painless and its not his fault.

[cleveramerican]

49. I agree

most honest folks also know if handled clumsily there are about a thousand different ways it could turn out badly.

[annabanana]

5. Have you even LOOKED at the polls?.. Can you quantify this "backlash"

in any rational way?

[ThomWV]

12. Of course he (or she) can't and it is silly to demand that he do so

The writer is not a pollster, not a public sentiment gathering machine - it is an opinion that is being expressed and it is clearly the impression that the writer is getting from the people and information that surrounds them. I have exactly the same impression in this neck of the woods but just like the majority of people its my observation, not a quantifiable statistic. Lighten up on the guy (or gal), I've seen you do exactly the same thing a hundred times.

[fasttense]

21. Impressions are based on something.

You don't just get an impression of a backlash unless something in particular has happened. Though I agree hard statistical numbers aren't necessary, some kind of fact would be useful. All my relatives say Obama's economic bailouts will fail, corporate media never says anything good about Obama, my neighbor just put a racist symbol on his front lawn - something. Anything to give us some kind of evidence to support this vast assumption.

[ThomWV]

30. 'I was at the barbershop yesterday and the guys were talkin' would that be enough?

I think it is enough myself.

[Posteritatis]

51. But - but - you mean DU isn't indicative of the general population's views?

Say it ain't so!

;)

[countingbluecars]

6. I must have missed something.

Has Obama lost public support? What growing backlash?

[KharmaTrain]

7. Which Backlash?

Against President Obama? And is that the corporate media version or the DU version? Is it the backlash against the corporates? Or against "the media" or against the social order? Everywhere I look people are pissed and each one has his/her own reason. President Obama sits in the center of this growing whirlwind and no one is sure if he can manage this thing or get swept up in it.

[lamp_shade]

8. Backlash? What are you reading besides DU?

[Solomon]

10. Sean Hannity has declared that there is a growing

backlash, therefore there is a backlash.

[lamp_shade]

11. Ahhh. Just as I suspected.

[BlooInBloo]

33. BWAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

[chrisa]

36. Is Hannity having his little green toy soldier fantasies again? nt

[Richard Steele]

53. The word "again" implies that he might have STOPPED at some point.

I think that "still" is the word you were looking for there.

[Boomerang Diddle]

9. Who is this phantom backlash coming from? eom

[NashVegas]

13. Could You Be More Specific? What Is This Backlash You Speak Of?

[cleveramerican]

17. I'm certain it hasn't arrived here yet

but its there and its real.
I am not denying the urgency of the moment,but...

the idea of trillions being spent to be paid back by future generations doesn't go down too easy anywhere but here.

[NashVegas]

20. But It's There? Where?

OC?

[cleveramerican]

24. open your eyes

If you think there isn't great unease, even among Obama voters, your not paying attention.

[annabanana]

46. "It doesn't go down too easy"... are you in someplace where swallowing

worse numbers to fund a war machine went down easier somehow?

[Richard Steele]

54. OK. Thanks for all your CONCERN.

nm

[blogslut]

14. You're funny

Has that always been your DU name?

[sendero]

16. Obama sitll enjoys...

.. nice favorable ratings from Americans.

This will disappear like a snowflake in an kiln if the economy doesn't turn around substantially within a year or so.

I fail to see how funneling trillions to banks so that they can buy more toxic assets to dump on to taxpayers is fixing the economy.

[earth mom]

18. Yep, the reality that "hope and change" was nothing more than just a slogan

is becoming blatantly obvious here on DU with each passing day.

People are pissed off to the nth degree about the first bank bailout and even more so about the banks wanting more.

Obama really better think long and hard about his next hand out to those fucking banks if he wants to get re-elected. :grr:

[Captain Hilts]

19. There is no backlash. nt

[No.23]

22. There is and isn't a backlash.

For those folks who took Obama at his word, there is no backlash.

But for those folks who had hoped that he would be a leftist in centrist clothing, there no doubt is.

[sendero]

58. Handling the bank issue..

.. is not a matter of left or right.

It is a matter of bailing out the assholes who created this mess, GUARANTEEING that they will do it again, or fixing it at the least cost to the taxpayer.

Obama/Geithner is failing big time on this. You will see.

[Skidmore]

23. My, how clever.

[tbyg52]

25. >>Obama is reaching too far, without enough public support.

Uh, I'd say he's *not* reaching as far as the public would support.

[cleveramerican]

35. YOU could be right.

but he has to explain it better for it to become true.

[NYCGirl]

26. If one is a big fan of Evan Bayh, like you are, you may want the illusion of a

backlash.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8300714#8300759

[lamp_shade]

28. Aha.

[cleveramerican]

29. I want genuine deliberation on matters this grave

I am not in favor EVER of those deliberative bodies of representatives of the public avoiding their constitutional duties.
When that happens the public ALWAYS loses in the end.

[Raineyb]

43. And genuine deliberation includes calling people who dislike Blay kooks?

Good luck with that.

Regards

[cleveramerican]

48. I am most certainly a fan of this slight attempt to put on the brakes a bit.

I favor slowing down when approaching blind corners.

[Ikonoklast]

27. Ever since Capitol Hill closed shop, the 'concern' factor here has gone through the roof.

I can read polls, however, and reality trumps made-up nonsense every time.

[cleveramerican]

31. polls reflect yesterday

not a wise position when discussing the future

[Ikonoklast]

37. You can't be serious.

If anyone is trying to look backwards, kind poster, it is YOU.

The rest of us are moving forward.


I'm trying to figure out if this is performance art, or just stupid flamebait.

Polls are even at this point.

[annabanana]

47. ah. . .thanks. . . .n/t

[cleveramerican]

32. SO nobody thinks its actually much worse than we've been told thus far?

That I guess is a good sign.

[BlooInBloo]

34. You're funny.

[SlingBlade]

38. Then WHERE is that dam Petition !

It's around here somewhere, I'll find it !

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5351541

[malaise]

39. Wrong

All the polls show that Obama has massive public support.

[TayTay]

40. This is unclear

A backlash involving what? The latest polls show that President Obama not only enjoys 60+% approval ratings but that the American public overwhelmingly believe he inherited this fiscal mess from his predecessor.

So, what backlash, based on what information and directed to what cause. An alert founded on something like, "hey it might rain in 3 months for a long time somewhere in the Northeast, maybe" is essentially useless.

What is it you are trying to alert people to?

[Riley18]

41. The only "backlash" I see being formulated comes solely from the rich. The

American working people who supported Obama continue to support his agenda. It is all very well and good to call for slowing down or watering down Obama's initiatives if you are living the good life. However, if you are like the majority of working people, you want change now and not later. Those few senators who are following Bayh are traitors to the party and the people who elected them.

[Raineyb]

42. Reaching too far?

If by reaching too far you mean reaching too far into the taxpayer's pockets to give money to the assholes in Wall Street who brought down the economy then I'd say yes. However, I suspect that's not what you mean.

I have no issues with spending if it goes in the right areas. Giving it to Wall Street does not by any stretch of the imagination fit that description.

Regards

[jpak]

44. Teabaggers for Jesus? Bachmann's Raiders??? The Santelli Brigades???? Beck's Bolero?????

The Backlash is a fucking joke.

[Deja Q]

45. Hard to say. I've agreed with a LOT that he's done with.

Some of the financial stuff, or certainly for some of the offshoring stuff, I'm not sure.

But when I compared Obama's latest speech to any of *'s, Obama comes across genuinely sincere. * is a twit. Could Obama be a smooth liar? I just don't see that, even if he is a politician. Especially as he and VP Biden (!) have done community service work, handing out meals at Thanksgiving, and other things. No, I think President Obama has been sincere. Especially as he didn't invite the WSJ and some other sources to that speech (I recall Shepherd Smith on FAUX NEWS bleating about that, note the spelling of his name for a subtle double meaning)...

Whatever happens happens, but I think the conspiracy theorists have more to say in terms of negativity right now.

[spanone]

50. the growing illusion is not a backlash

:shrug:

[Richard Steele]

52. Some "Americans" are too clever by half, IMHO.

nm

[Mike 03]

55. I find your post confusing for a couple of reasons:

1. He DOES have public support. What he lacks is the support of the Repukes and the Media
2. The situation IS worse than anyone dare say, but we have been told this. We know things are more dire than any dare say. This is called yesterday's news.

Besides, obviously, if people understood that things were worse than we are being told--and we ARE being told--they would be less, not more, likely to beat up on Obama.

[Mike 03]

56. I hope the people who rec'd this post provided some convincing rationale. I can't wait to read what

it is.

[saltpoint]

57. "And it's a long drive down the Right field foul line..."