Perhaps Obama knows where Bin Laden is and that's what the Afghan surge is all about

[eeyore]

Personally, I've thought that Bin Laden has been dead for years. But it just occurred to me that this could be Obama acting on intelligence, and he's out to do what Georgie failed to do - capture the guy who (allegedly) masterminded 9/11.

Can you imaging the exploding freeper heads if our military captures Bin Laden on Obama's orders, and are able to bring him back for a fair and legal trial? Obama wouldn't dare send him to Gitmo, so where would he go? What sort of trial would he get? Obama would surely want him brought in alive.

This scenario would make Bush look like a fucking idiot, and would be some of the best revenge imaginable. Democrats getting done what the tough talking "uber-patriot" war president couldn't, showing the post 9/11 policy of Bush to be the farce and crime that it was.

Delicious!

[lamp_shade]

1. It would indeed be delicious. Perhaps McCain told him where to find Bin Laden. Could be.

[eeyore]

6. There are a lot of people who'd like some revenge on Bush

I have a hard time believing that, if OBL is alive, we don't know exactly where to find him. Can't be that hard. I think Bush decided not to pursue him on purpose.

[Deja Q]

7. Yup. Going after Iraq and having his own personal wargasm...

The past is the past; we need to repair... and refocus.

I still can't believe * was re-elected in 2004, especially with his comment about how Osama no longer interested him. Just !^@%#$ asinine and disrespectful of Bush to do...

Dead or alive, let's focus on getting Bin Laden, and get things completed. Thumbs up to President Obama on this. :)

[CANDO]

2. Holy shit! Could you just imagine if President Obama nailed Bin Laden!

The fucking right wing would have a collective head explosion. edit for spelling

[Webster Green]

3. True..

I agree that he's probably been dead for years, or we would be seeing a lot of videotapes of his dumbass.

[eeyore]

8. The last supposed tape from him was Jan 14th

CAIRO, Egypt — Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel, seeking to harness anger over the Gaza offensive with a new message posted on the Internet on Wednesday.

The al-Qaida chief vowed to open "new fronts" against the U.S. and its allies beyond Iraq and Afghanistan and also criticized Arab leaders, accusing most of them of being allies of the U.S. and Israel.

The White House dismissed the call to jihad, saying it reflects bin Laden's isolation and shows he is trying to remain relevant at a time when his ideology and mission are being challenged.

Bin Laden spoke in a 22-minute audiotape posted on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages. The 51-year-old al-Qaida leader has been in hiding since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, believed to be living somewhere along the lawless Pakistan-Afghan border.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/14/bin-laden-urges-jihad-aga_n_157755.html

[Webster Green]

27. I want to see a video tape of him holding up a current newspaper.

I suppose an audio tape could be confirmed using voice analysis equipment. Has that been done?

[Odin2005]

4. I want Osama's head on a pike.

Make it serve as a warning to other ne'er-do-wells with ideas of mass murder.

[soothsayer]

10. Why? He's not wanted for 9/11 according to the FBI.

[timtom]

12. Why is that: because he's a Muslim?

Or because someone told you he's a terrorist who did the 911 job?

[Odin2005]

17. Oh great, here comes the Twoofer morans.

:eyes:

[timtom]

29. What an extremely

intelligent, compassionate, and clever response. I certainly wouldn't want to label you an idiot for that sort of critical thinking. So I won't.

(Jeez. How embarrassing to share the same board with...never mind.)

[Ghost in the Machine]

34. Perhaps you could pull your head out of your ass long enough to do some reading?

Detainees Say They Planned Sept. 11
The five detainees at Guantánamo Bay charged with planning the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks have filed a document with the military commission at the United States naval base there expressing pride at their accomplishment and accepting full responsibility for the killing of nearly 3,000 people.

The document, which may be released publicly on Tuesday, uses the Arabic term for a consultative assembly in describing the five men as the “9/11 Shura Council,” and it says their actions were an offering to God, according to excerpts of the document that were read to a reporter by a government official who was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

The document is titled “The Islamic Response to the Government’s Nine Accusations,” the military judge at the Guantánamo Bay detention camp said in a separate filing, obtained by The New York Times, that describes the detainees’ document.

The document was filed on behalf of the five men, including Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who has described himself as the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/us/10gitmo.html?_r=1

Try some research, or maybe just some basic reading/comprehension skills, before you post so you don't make yourself look so fucking ignorant...


Thanks,

Ghost

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

44. "so you don't make yourself look so fucking ignorant..."

I don't think that's possible.



(Advanced search is your friend)

[chrisa]

45. Boosh knocked down the towers.

According to Mos Def. The number one source of news (followed by Fox).

[Djinn]

47. an awful lot of people around the world would like to do the same

to every US President for at least 50 years, except of course they killed FAR FAR FAR more people and their culpability is beyond question.

I see little point in capturing and/or killing Bin Laden but to kill thousands of Afghan men, women and children to do so is frankly morally repugnant.

If someone killed a few folk and then went into hiding in your neighbourhood (wasn't invited mind) how many of your friends and family would you be OK with sacrificing to see the evil doer caught?

Or it it somehow different? if so why?

[tekisui]

48. More like make him revered as a martyr.

:eyes:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. All he has to do is ask McCain.

[Deja Q]

9. Oh please. McCain would give directions to McDonalds in Anchorage and say it's winter in Afghanistan

[eeyore]

13. I have a feeling John Kerry and Biden know as well

Biden must know! Think about how many anti-Bush informants would like to make him look like even more of a fool. And if Obama pulled it off in the first 6 month of his presidency? Oh man, Fox news would be amazing to watch!

[soothsayer]

11. If he's anywhere (besides in a CIA ex-agent retirement villa' or a grave)

it's Pakistan. No one is even looking for the dude. I doubt we ever were, frankly, tho we probably told our warfighters that we were.

[dflprincess]

41. Actually, I've often theorized that he shaved off his beard

and joined the many other Saudis down at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN so he could get his kidney disease treated.

Either that or, as you said, he's dead.

[spanone]

14. we don't need any scenario to make bu$h* look like a fucking idiot

[eeyore]

16. Granted...

But how amazing would it be to watch Sean Hannity having to come up with reasons that Bin Laden's capture is bad for America?

[tuckessee]

15. LOL!

The naivety of you people kills me.:rofl:

[eeyore]

18. Cool.

Thanks for stopping by with your eloquent contribution to the discourse.


:)

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. .

:evilgrin: The numerous Obama excuses kill me.

[goforit]

19. LOL!!! He's on a tropical island somewhere with Ken Lay, Barbara Olsen and Ted

Olsen laughing all the way to their tax free havens living the good life.

[Deja Q]

20. I'll get the camera, what you described sounds SEXY!!!!!

:party:

[eeyore]

26. Is that the same island where they staged the moon landing?

:scared:

[datasuspect]

21. OBL was never a real issue

he's a just a bogeyman our owners marketed to us.

[MarjorieG]

22. But the network he inspired real and growing. Imagine proving him dead, also.

[datasuspect]

24. we created al qaeda

[MarjorieG]

38. I understand the Afghanistan history, but the network has grown. We shouldn't ignore that.

[Old and In the Way]

23. One way or the other, I hope Obama ends this chapter.

Personally, I think he died in 2001, sometime during/after the bombing of Bora-Bora. But keeping the myth of OBL alive was important to the Bush-Cheney administration as the face of terrorism in order to keep their WOT/Iraq adventure going. IMHO, it will be even more devastating to the Bush legacy if Obama releases conclusive evidence that Osama died from renal failure or complications resulting from the bombings in in late 2001.

[eeyore]

25. Very good point.

I agree, either way this mystery will likely be solved, and either outcome isn't good for the Bush legacy. However, proof that he kept that bogeyman alive would dissolve any doubt that the entire Bush presidency was a ruse played out with our military at risk.

[malaise]

28. Osama bin Laden is

dead.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. And, if Osama is captured/killed, the heaven's will open and paradise established.

And, of course, all the trillions we spent killing him will be returned with interest.

[ProgressIn2008]

31. Is this humor? Obama has super duper secret info and will catch Emmanuel Goldstein?

Bring him in alive, like an 11th dimensional chess playing cowboy dude? And for you, the value of this super duper move would be... to make George W. Bush look like an idiot? (As if he needed help.) This is our national motivation now?

[eeyore]

33. Yeah, I'm in charge of creating the national motivation.

Pretty cool how powerful I am, eh? I imagine it, post it as a lark on DU, and next thing you know I've created our new national motivation.

Yeehaw! I fucking rock!

[santamargarita]

32. Everything Bush has ever done makes him look like a "fucking idiot"

:crazy:

[azul]

35. The boogie man is at the Bush estancia in Paraguay,

partying with the Moonies next door for all I know.

The point being that a boogie man was built up for us all to focus on and hate when the real culprit that engenders extremism is poverty and oppression. And guess which side our corporate-state government is on in this real battle?

Find and fix the cause, don't just hang the scapegoat publicly and think it's over and won.

[BlooInBloo]

36. Or perhaps he's being a responsible President.

[eeyore]

37. Isn't that pretty much what I've posited?

That the responsible thing to do, if he had the intel, would be to go over and finish what Bush decided not to?

I actually think that OBL is likely dead, but it's an interesting premise, no?

[Pastiche423]

40. ...

Osama Bin Laden has been dead since December 26, 2001. And I believe whistle ass knew that.

[spoony]

42. So how many dead are acceptable to catch one dying

old cripple and revitalise him as a potent martyr?

[wildbilln864]

43. He's fucking dead! nt

[Individualist]

46. Perhaps the moon really is made of green cheese