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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:20 PM
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Larry Summers' words from 1999 on the repeal of Glass-Steagal. Interesting.
Looking back at this article from today's point of view...not very much fun at all. All this may never have had to happen.

From November 5, 1999, the New York Times.

Congress passes wide-ranging bill easing bank laws

'Today Congress voted to update the rules that have governed financial services since the Great Depression and replace them with a system for the 21st century,'' Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers said. "This historic legislation will better enable American companies to compete in the new economy."


It only took a decade for the lack of foresight in this legislation to do severe damage to our country. Many of the same ones who broke the system are getting to fix it.

''The world changes, and we have to change with it,'' said Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, who wrote the law that will bear his name along with the two other main Republican sponsors, Representative Jim Leach of Iowa and Representative Thomas J. Bliley Jr. of Virginia. ''We have a new century coming, and we have an opportunity to dominate that century the same way we dominated this century. Glass-Steagall, in the midst of the Great Depression, came at a time when the thinking was that the government was the answer. In this era of economic prosperity, we have decided that freedom is the answer.''

In the House debate, Mr. Leach said, ''This is a historic day. The landscape for delivery of financial services will now surely shift.''


Some spoke about against this repeal.

'I think we will look back in 10 years' time and say we should not have done this but we did because we forgot the lessons of the past, and that that which is true in the 1930's is true in 2010,'' said Senator Byron L. Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota. ''I wasn't around during the 1930's or the debate over Glass-Steagall. But I was here in the early 1980's when it was decided to allow the expansion of savings and loans. We have now decided in the name of modernization to forget the lessons of the past, of safety and of soundness.''

Senator Paul Wellstone, Democrat of Minnesota, said that Congress had ''seemed determined to unlearn the lessons from our past mistakes.''

''Scores of banks failed in the Great Depression as a result of unsound banking practices, and their failure only deepened the crisis,'' Mr. Wellstone said. ''Glass-Steagall was intended to protect our financial system by insulating commercial banking from other forms of risk. It was one of several stabilizers designed to keep a similar tragedy from recurring. Now Congress is about to repeal that economic stabilizer without putting any comparable safeguard in its place.''


Some went along. Note the words of Bob Kerrey and Chuck Schumer.

Supporters of the legislation rejected those arguments. They responded that historians and economists have concluded that the Glass-Steagall Act was not the correct response to the banking crisis because it was the failure of the Federal Reserve in carrying out monetary policy, not speculation in the stock market, that caused the collapse of 11,000 banks. If anything, the supporters said, the new law will give financial companies the ability to diversify and therefore reduce their risks. The new law, they said, will also give regulators new tools to supervise shaky institutions.

''The concerns that we will have a meltdown like 1929 are dramatically overblown,'' said Senator Bob Kerrey, Democrat of Nebraska.

''If we don't pass this bill, we could find London or Frankfurt or years down the road Shanghai becoming the financial capital of the world,'' said Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York. ''There are many reasons for this bill, but first and foremost is to ensure that U.S. financial firms remain competitive.''


The article is illuminating in context of todays' meltdown. Much more at the link.





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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:26 PM
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1. Wellstone stikes again, I see.
I would like to see what Bob Kerry has to say today.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:13 AM
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21. I wouldn't...Kerrey is like a recurring nightmare.
One of my LEAST favorite politicians.

:puke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kerrey

snip> mentioning Senator Barack Obama's Muslim family members. Kerrey said, "It's probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim." He continued, "There's a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal." <unsnip
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:34 PM
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29. That was an unbelievable statement by Kerrey.
He is always putting his foot in his mouth.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:07 PM
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2. More against it then.
"One Republican Senator, Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, voted against the legislation. He was joined by seven Democrats: Barbara Boxer of California, Richard H. Bryan of Nevada, Russell D. Feingold of Wisconsin, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Barbara A. Mikulski of Maryland, Mr. Dorgan and Mr. Wellstone."
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:01 PM
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14. that is some great information, a rare and outstanding handful of names
some still in Congress

thanks!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:56 PM
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17. And they are now vindicated.
Completely.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:12 AM
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20. Clinton Signed It With Great Relish
And handed the signing pen to the CEO of Citi Group.

Later, Citi paid Clinton millions in "speaking fees". This is a coincidence.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:31 AM
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22. "handed the signing pen to the CEO of Citi Group"
And wasn't that Robert Rubin?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:23 PM
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30. OH, yeah, I remember that.
:mad:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:24 PM
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31. Of course it's a coincidence.
:rofl:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:28 PM
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3. Senator Dorgan today...
Click on Dorgan at 16:45
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/congress/?q=node/77539&hors=s#


The link will change tomorrow, but the text and video will be available from cspan via the calendar link.


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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:33 PM
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4. Summers on regulating derivatives - 1998
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 06:34 PM by slipslidingaway
edit to add link

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2008/11/obama-taps-larry-summers-recalling-summers-days-regulation-foe

"...Summers blasted the CFTC for having raised" the possibility of increased regulation over this market." And he hailed derivatives:

The dramatic growth of the market in recent years is testament not merely to the dynamism of modern financial markets, but to the benefits that derivatives provide for American businesses.

By helping participants manage their risk exposures better and lower their financing costs, derivatives facilitate domestic and international commerce and support a more efficient allocation of capital across the economy. They can also improve the functioning of financial markets themselves by potentially raising liquidity....OTC derivatives directly and indirectly support higher investment and growth in living standards in the United States and around the world....



...Summers told the Senate he and his fellow economic bigfoots were not slamming Born and the CFTC cavalierly:

We understood the seriousness of making this proposal. To question an independent agency's concept of its jurisdiction and then to propose legislation that would temporarily curtail that agency's ability to act is not something we do lightly. We concluded, however, that such legislation was necessary to avoid disruption and dislocation in the market while the underlying issues were being considered by Congress.

Congress in late 2000 did end up implementing the Summers approach, when Senator Phil Gramm, then the head of the Senate banking committee, used a back-room maneuver to slip into a must-pass spending bill a measure that prevented the CFTC or the SEC from regulating derivatives..."








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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:52 PM
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5. Summers, Greenspan, Rubin....
Amazing.

"Summers, then the deputy secretary of the Treasury, had another idea--as did Robert Rubin, the secretary of the Treasury, and Alan Greenspan, the chairman of the Federal Reserve. These wise men each gazed with horror upon Born's proposed consideration of regulation for derivatives. Speaking for them, on July 30, 1998, Summers testified in the Senate against the notion of the CFTC even pondering rules governing the trading of derivatives. By releasing its memo, the CFTC, Summers complained, "has cast the shadow of regulatory uncertainty over an otherwise thriving market--raising risks for the stability and competitiveness of American derivative trading."
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:06 PM
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6. And President Obama's new nominee to head the CFTC
http://www.peterswire.net/privarchives/Remarks%20by%20the%20president%20at%20financial%20modernization%20bill%20signing.html

"President Clinton...Like all those before me, I want to express my gratitude to those principally responsible for the success of this legislation. I thank Secretary Summers and the entire team at Treasury, but especially Under Secretary Gensler, for their work..."


I have not read the entire speech...


http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/ls91.htm

"September 16, 1999
LS-91


"FINANCIAL MODERNIZATION" UNDER SECRETARY FOR DOMESTIC FINANCE GARY GENSLER REMARKS BEFORE THE FINANCIAL SERVICES ROUNDTABLE WASHINGTON, DC


Introduction

I am pleased to be here today to discuss financial modernization and the prospects for legislation. At the outset, I would like to make three points.

First, the Administration strongly supports modernization of our financial services laws. This round of legislation began with introduction of a Treasury-proposed bill in 1997. We have made compromises and reached out to a broad range of groups. We are up on the Hill practically every day working on this bill.

Second, we believe that legislation is clearly achievable. The passage of H.R. 10 by a 343-86 vote, with your support and Administration backing, demonstrates that unequivocally.

Third, although the Administration would like to see financial modernization legislation enacted, we are ready to walk away if presented with a bad bill. We did it last year, and we will do it again if we must...."


Senator Sanders put a hold on the Gensler nomination, links here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8297223&mesg_id=8298089







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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:07 PM
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7. Seeing a pattern develop here? nt
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:49 PM
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9. I do... must be crazy :)) n/t
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:16 PM
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8. How about a dem "slips" some regulation legislation, via the "back room maneuver" if necessary, &
attaches it to the next "must pass" bill? Too bad the American people don't have some fancy lobbyists on K St. to grease some palms for us, eh?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:51 PM
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10. That would be nice, some of same people who fought regulation
now trying to fix the problems.

:shrug:





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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:52 PM
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11. Wellstone and Dorgan
Who were the other six Senators who voted against it.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:49 PM
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12. Link to legislation, there was the original bill and then the vote
on the conference reort.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s106-900


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00354

NAYs ---8

Boxer (D-CA)
Bryan (D-NV)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Shelby (R-AL)
Wellstone (D-MN)

Present - 1
Fitzgerald (R-IL)

Not Voting - 1
McCain (R-AZ)



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:04 PM
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15. Thanks
Wow! Time to hear from the rest of them. It's vindication time.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:17 PM
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16. YW, not expecting to hear anything from the others, also Dorgan
is pushing for an investigation into the financial fiasco and how we got here.

He might not have many supporters.


http://dorgan.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=309009

"U.S. Senators Byron Dorgan (D-ND) and John McCain (R-AZ) today introduced legislation to establish a Senate select committee to investigate the causes of the current financial crisis and make recommendations to ensure that a crisis of this magnitude does not happen again.

Dorgan and McCain believe that with more than $9 trillion taxpayer dollars being committed, pledged or loaned so far to try to fix the financial crisis, it is absolutely imperative that the crisis be investigated to learn how the country got to this point and how to restructure the system to prevent it from happening in the future.

The bipartisan select committee would be fully independent, have full subpoena power, and have authority to get to the bottom of this crisis, inform Congress and the American people how it happened. It would also report recommendations on how to make sure a crisis like this never happens again.

“The American people deserve to know how this crisis happened; they deserve to know why they are on the hook for trillions of dollars bailing out banks and Wall Street. Congressional oversight needs to happen and happen fast. We simply cannot afford to have a crisis of this magnitude ever happen again,” said Senator Byron Dorgan. “I compliment the standing committees for working overtime just trying to keep up and stop the crisis from getting worse. But, they are overworked and overwhelmed. Only a select committee, focusing full-time on how the crisis happened, will provide the comprehensive and thorough investigation that the American people deserve.”...."



http://dorgan.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=310021

DORGAN, CANTWELL PUSH FOR FINANCIAL CRIMES TASK FORCE
Wednesday, March 18, 2009

CONTACT: Justin Kitsch
or Brenden Timpe
PHONE: 202-224-2551


(WASHINGTON, D.C.) – "U.S. Senators Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) are urging the nation’s Attorney General to establish an Economic Crisis Financial Crimes Task Force dedicated to investigating and prosecuting any criminal behavior that was involved in the events that caused our financial crisis.

The Senators pointed out that a similar task force was created in connection with the Enron scandal, and it was instrumental in bringing criminals to justice. Given the magnitude of the current economic crisis, Dorgan and Cantwell believe the creation of a Financial Crimes Task Force is necessary to shore up confidence in the economic system.

“More than $9 trillion has been committed, pledged or loaned in response to the ongoing financial and economic crisis. On top of that, more than $10 trillion in stock market wealth has been lost as has more than $6 trillion in housing wealth,” wrote the Senators to Attorney General Eric Holder urging the creation of this inter-agency Task Force. “In addition, millions of jobs have been lost and many millions of people have lost their homes to foreclosure. While this financial wreckage can be attributed in part to bad decisions and incompetence, it is also clear that some of the conduct and activities were simply illegal. It must all be thoroughly investigated and, where appropriate, prosecuted.”

“The Justice Department must bring a singular focus and intensity to those who have caused such economic destruction. We request that you, as soon as possible, create a Task Force and assign talented and experienced prosecutors and investigators to assure the American people that wrongdoers will be brought to justice. Our country is at an economic precipice and those who brought us here must be held to account,” wrote the Senators."





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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:53 PM
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13. Thank you, posthumously, Paul Wellstone...again... nt
spellcheck thinks I spelled that right
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:56 PM
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18. We need more Wellstones.
I remember that day the plane crashed. So tragic.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:10 AM
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19. Economically, Summers Is A Malignant Tumor
Spreading financial havoc at every turn. He must possess some sort of magic to be able to pull this off at such a high level
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:54 PM
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27. No joke. Even today. Summers Missed The Crisis.
Larry Summers Missed the Crisis, Summers Missed the Crisis

That was necessary because some readers of Robert Shiller's column in today's NYT might have been misled into believing that the head of President Obama's National Economic Council was one of those warning of the current crisis. In fact, the opposite was the case.

Mr. Summers, along with Alan Greenspan, was one of the high priests of the everything is just fine school.

http://www.kc.frb.org/publicat/sympos/2005/PDF/GD5_2005.pdf

If he did see the housing bubble and recognized the disaster that would result from its collapse, he was extremely effective in keeping this insight to himself.

--Dean Baker

http://fav.or.it/post/1275835/larry-summers-missed-the-crisis-larry-summers-missed-the-crisis
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:34 AM
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23. And this is who has Obama's ear?
He and Geithner mostly. The President does not hear an opposing viewpoint. This is sad. These folks know nothing but the Wall Street life. They do not understand Main Street.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:05 AM
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24. It appears that way.
He recently said something about not reading the blogosphere.

So I guess he is in the bubble.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:46 AM
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25. "Are we all chumps?" Bill Moyers. "Well, seems that way" -Simon Johnson on PBS
very interesting explanations. Wish Obama was listening to folks like Johnson, and William Greider, instead of the wolves in sheep clothing.

link for Johnson:
www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02132009/watch.html

and Greider:
www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03272009/watch2.html
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:50 PM
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26. Impressed by Greider
Thanks for the link.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:01 PM
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28. You're welcome. I forgot to say "thanks" for your OP.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:51 PM
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32. kick
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The Leveller Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:52 PM
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33. Why
is Larry Summers allowed to roam freely? He is a criminal.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:16 PM
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34. It's always different
but really it's always the same. It wasn't so much because of the method, it was because of the greed and stupidity.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:41 PM
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36. Yeah all those STUPID greedy fuckers with their millions in paid-for homes, property,
jewelry, gold, and Swiss bank accounts. "Stupid" is the wrong word to use when describing these people. They are very smart. Smart enough in fact to be taking our money from us at every turn. And, to boot, they have put their wizards right next to our President so all he hears is their soothing words.

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:39 PM
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35. DUers tell me if you think this is true....
Gramm-Leach-Bliley passed the Senate on a party line vote on May 6, 1999.

The Senate is the calm body, they are the brakes on unwise legislation, so the fact the Ds voted for the House version is not as significant.

The conference report vote however in Nov. 1999 many more Ds voted with the Rs.

My contention is that a conference report vote is not a do over. Gramm-Leach-Bliley effectively passed the Senate on May 6, with all Rs (the majority party voting Yey)

This is what I wrote to Rolling Stone concerning what I felt was erroneous info.

On page 5

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover/5

"In 1997 and 1998, the years leading up to the passage of Phil Gramm's fateful act that gutted Glass-Steagall, the banking, brokerage and insurance industries spent $350 million on political contributions and lobbying. Gramm alone — then the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee — collected $2.6 million in only five years. The law passed 90-8 in the Senate, with the support of 38 Democrats, including some names that might surprise you: Joe Biden, John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Dick Durbin, even John Edwards."

That is incorrect. The vote referenced is the November 2 1999 Conference report vote.

The Senate vote on Gramm-leach-Bliley occured on May 6, 1999. Here is the roll call vote

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s1999-105

James Taranto of the Wall Stret Journal attempted to conflate the conference report vote with the May 6, 1999 roll call vote and was forced to offer a retraction.

I may be wrong, but I do not believe conference report votes, after a bill has passed in both the House in Senate is an opportunity for the congress persons who voted against the initial bills in their respective House or Senate are an opportunity to force a do over of a bill that has already passed. In addition the Democrats were in the minority and did not have the votes to thwart Gramm-Leach-Bliley.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:46 PM
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37. This is all part of President Obama's PLAN to lull the Wall Street Wizards into thinking that
he is one of their minions, but any day now he is going to fire the whole lot at Treasury and appoint T. Boone Pickens and his staff to fill their posts. That'll show the bastards.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 03:12 PM
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38. Never forget what Summers said.
Because it is the very basis of how things went wrong.
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