Here's what we're fighting for in Iraq and Afghanistan;

[cali]

In Iraq: Executions of Gay people.

http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/09/Mar/3001.htm

In Afghanistan: The legalization of rape.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/afghanistan-president-signs-law-to-legalise-rape-14249973.html

At the very least, I expect the Administration to speak up against these outrages and pressure the governments of both Iraq and Afghanistan on these issues.

[Mari333]

1. good point. lets get the hell out of both places.

and let them figure it out for themselves.
oh wait. the big money is there. thats why we arent leaving.

[Xenotime]

14. I thought Obama was going to do something about it.!!

WTF is he waiting for??

[babylonsister]

2. Please. How disingenuous can you be? nt

[cali]

6. There's nothing disingenuous about it. This shit is happening.

And yes, we're fighting for it when we support the governments that perpetrate it. I didn't say this is the reason that Obama is continuing the war in Afghanistan, but it's certainly a side effect of supporting these governments, if the administration doesn't put pressure on them to refrain from this kind of oppression. Now maybe the admin is doing this behind the scenes, but if they are, I think we'd here something about it. In any case, they shouldn't remain silent about such grotesque abuse.

[babylonsister]

10. You said, and I quote, "this is what we're fighting for". Disingenuous. nt

[redqueen]

12. Yep...

the subject line seems to be intentionally inflammatory.

[billyoc]

3. Those are your imperial ALLIES doing that, cali.

You're not fighting against it.

[cali]

7. grab a clue billyboy. I oppose both wars.

and I've said so. I just don't fall for the kind of dogmatic trotskyite bullshit, you're so enamoured with.

[billyoc]

9. Yes, you keep reminding me that you oppose both wars, which is good,

because I haven't seen you say anything against either one lately.

BTW, you don't have to be a trotskyist to speak out against imperialism with a "humanitarian intervention" fig leaf.

But it helps. ;)

[thewiseguy]

4. We are not the moral police of this world

[rug]

5. Has any government ever gone to war to stop either?

Remember the Maine!

[Orwellian_Ghost]

8. Who's "we?"

Are you reporting from Iraq?

Now back to reality:

Iraqi oil fields: Iraq's proven oil reserves of 112 billion barrels are the world's second largest, behind Saudi Arabia.

[Winterblues]

11. And companies that used to call themselves American companies now have control of that oil.

We got their oil........"Mission Accomplished"

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. Oh yeah. And because of WMDs.

Their missles are 15 minutes away from NYC.

Remember 9-111!