Does anyone here know of a left of center discussion board?

[Vanje]

I would be interested in discussing "main street" concerns with fellow liberals.
I'd like to examine ways to better make the Democratic leaderhip, and the president responsive to liberal ideals , not centrist or conservative ideals.

Can anyone here steer me to such a site?

(If the site is not dependant upon ad revenues, so much the better.)

[donheld]

1. Democratic Underground comes to mind

[hfojvt]

3. apparently not since we have trolls here

who actually defend, or try to defend, the President and the Democratic leadership. Sometimes by attacking the supposed loony left.

[geek tragedy]

13. Wait, are you calling people who defend Barack Obama

'trolls?'

Or did you forget the sarcasm tag?

[cali]

2. this is a left of center board, though it's inclusive of people who are farleft of center

and people who are of the blue dog persuasion. If you're looking for a board that embraces far left of center only, I can pm you.

[arcadian]

16. blue dog persuasion = got tired of talking politics on the NASCAR board.

Some how got steered here and there are a lot of them.

[Mari333]

4. heh.

heres what I have seen in all my years.
the 'right' went all the way over to neocon. so far into fascist territory. it changed the whole perspective.
people who are considered far left now, used to be called centrist back in the day. my dad was a union man, who went on strike and demanded decent wages and fair pay. he was a quiet man but he fought hard against management policies and fought for unions.
he would be considered too far left now.
he would have been amused by that.
the moderate DLC left, to me, is what used to be called conservative. hillary is a good example of that, and many of obamas advisors are also.
the new meme is , dont step out of line, dont make waves, and be glad you can make 20 cents a day from our glorious corporate sponsors.

[rucky]

5. It's kinda hard to have a discussion here, right now.

but this too will pass.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

6. You're On One. If You Really Meant "Loony Irrational Zealous Left" Then There Are A Few That Come

to mind, but I'm not allowed to post the links here.

(Doesn't matter anyway, since those boards are filled with such closed minded lunatics that you'd likely not really want to join them anyway)

[the other one]

9. Are "Loony, irrational and zealous" your words for "Idealistic"?

If so, then I would like to know about those sites that the Loonies and the irrational zealots congregate.

Maybe its time for a "Liberal Underground"

[WI_DEM]

7. Democratic Underground?

[Occam Bandage]

8. DU is the biggest left-wing board I'm aware of.

It does have a few far-far-left-wing malcontents, though.

[Echo In Light]

10. Old Elm Tree

http://www.oldelmtree.com/discussion/index.php

[burythehatchet]

26. Thank you. Just registered.

Are you posting there?

[jobycom]

11. Depends on where the center is.

In some universes, Free Republic is left of center.

DU is the best of the leftie boards. It's got everything from gently left to radical insane aliens-killed-JFK-to-protect-chemtrails left. You can spend all your time reading the threads that disagree radically with you, or you can skip those and find discussions suited to your taste. You'll still find more like-minded Dems to hang out with here than you will on other boards.

Mods, I expect my check in the mail. PR work isn't free.

[Echo In Light]

12. One can find various leftist views here, but one gets the impression they're barely tolerated

...depending upon the subject, or the social/cultural context in which the matter is presented. The best forums to find free thinkers are usually the forums not specifically wearing its ideological colors on its sleeve.

Sadly, however, rightward leaning and authoritarian views are encountered far more frequently since those views are exalted within the broader corporate/consumer culture without being sold/labeled as such for public consumption. Hence there's this huge % of people w/righty views who don't seem to grasp that the view is indeed 'rightist.'

[jobycom]

15. Imagine how a centrist reads your post, and you've got the whole thing in a nutshell.

Everyone thinks their exact, specific viewpoint is the only correct one, and there are enough POVs here that every viewpoint will be attacked. Thus, everyone feels like DU is a haven for their worst enemies, and that they are always being attacked or having to read arguments from idiots who just don't get it.

But there's still a lot of people who will agree with any point you make, and that's the point of DU. You'll find a lot of disagreement here, but you'll find more people who agree with you here than you will find anywhere else. That's all I meant.

[Echo In Light]

18. Well, some seek quarrel, others solidarity. It's good to bounce one's views off others

There is, however, a prominent school of thought here that reflects the prevailing ideologies of the corporate culture. Pointing that out is what often leads to groupthink/verbiage lynchings, usually with one or two crusading, blowhard 'anti-conspiracy theorists' leading the charge, with several "Me Too!" haters in tow. They're easy to ignore for the most part.

[jobycom]

20. The specific ideological positions aren't my point.

Just that there are a lot of viewpoints.

And some of us seek quarrels some days, and solidarity others, and you can find both here.

[Echo In Light]

24. Unacknowledged ideological views are precisely my point as they do the most damage

I would disagree though you that there's a collective here, each with a significant variance of view re major national topics.

One can easily discern how certain issues yield unquestioning obedience by a majority - to the benefit of the rulers of the country, of course. By default this often results in those who don't abide that majority being relegated to "conspiracist" status.

Either way, sometimes it's fun/interesting. Other times not so.

[burythehatchet]

27. The "fun/interesting" phase wore off long ago.

[Echo In Light]

29. As G.Carlin said, the disintegration of a culture can be fun to watch if you're not emotionally....

...beholden to it. Keeping one's thumb on the pulse of the culture here is like watching a 24/7/365 Milgram experiment.

[tigereye]

14. nicely said!

[Deja Q]

17. There are plenty. "Google" has helped on a number of occasions.

:)

[NeedleCast]

19. You're On One

One that's pretty far left of center by most political analystics, although there are some moderates here as well.

[No.23]

21. Why would you want to be in the choirloft when the congregation needs you below?

n/S

[Regret My New Name]

22. Democraticunderground.com, like duhhh... but if you're looking for something left of left...

Then maybe you'll find http://www.revleft.com/vb/ of use... I don't know if that's what you're looking for or not... I'm not a member of that site, but I do occasional read it because I find some of the discussion interesting...

[tabbycat31]

23. Delphi Forums

granted they have a lot of forums, but if you join I can point you to some left wing forums

[flvegan]

25. Another vote for the one you're currently on.

[leftstreet]

28. You can talk about those things right here

That's what everyone's doing.

Start an OP asking how we can make the 'President responsive to liberal ideals.'

People want to talk about those kinds of things.