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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:51 AM
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BREAKING: Ed Schultz will be on Olbermann tonight! Keith talked about an announcement last night!
I predict that Ed will have his own show in the 10 pm slot.

Ed will be on Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC Tonight 8pm ET!

http://www.wegoted.com/
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:55 AM
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1. Just to hear what he will say about that crappy RW radio guy*
will make that worthwhile.

*Help a grrl out here; he;s obnoxious, can't take responsibility, weird first name, big, fat, stinking hypocrite who admits to enjoying Cuban cigars--anyone, li'l help with the name?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:56 AM
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2. Uggh
Ed Schultz?:puke:
I thought it was supposed to be GOOD news?:shrug:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:58 AM
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4. No--that's not the one--Tush something, I think. Ed ain't ALL bad
tho far from perfect.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:52 PM
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21. I like Big Eddie!
He gets trashed regularly on the DU, but I think he's great.

I admit he is less than well-informed on certain issues, but he is right on the money most of the time.

His show is actually one of my favorites. :P
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:56 AM
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3. Ed won't do his homework.... that's a major problem
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 12:01 PM by hlthe2b
Even listening to his show sporadically, I cringe at how often callers end up revealing his lack of knowledge (though Ed rarely seems to clue in).

So now his often poorly reasoned opinions will be on national display. Yes, he speaks to the heartland centrist Dems and independents in a folksy, nonthreatening way, but I have qualms, major qualms. I can only hope that he will be influenced by KO and Rachel, but I'm doubting that will be the case.

On edit, this is a similar problem with Bill Press and many of the milquetoast that have backfilled on progressive radio. I know they can not all be a walking, breathing MENSA-level mind like Thom Hartman, KO, or Rachel, but geez louise, can't they hire competent staff and not just the sycophantic good 'ole boys who likewise won't do any background research?

If indeed they are announcing an "ED" show, I just wish they had had the wisdom to pick Cenk or Sam Seder.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:01 PM
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7. I'm no Ed fan -- prefer Cenk or Sammy for that spot, but...
Ed Will be highly scripted on MSNBC. He won't take phone calls which would trip him up. I wonder how many days he'll spend on deep frying a turkey?

--imm
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:06 PM
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10. Maybe he'll have more people to hel keep him up to date
on issues since he is moving to tv. Rachel is on top of everything. MAybe some of her staff can help Ed.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:13 PM
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12. I surely hope so....
Many times I've heard him called on an issue that he SHOULD know and his fall back position seems to be to spout RW talking points from his pre-Democratic conversion days.

Yes, he has positives and I'm not ardently against this, but I sure would have preferred Ceng or Sam Seder.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:58 AM
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5. I just read MSNBC gave up the 10 pm slot for KO re-runs.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:00 PM
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6. that may just be a ruse to get people to check in...
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:10 PM
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11. heh--they said they had stopped the search for a 10 pm host
cuz they found one?

at least they won't have to worry about Ed being TOO liberal.

He's a bit of an ignoramus, though.

Good luck to Ed, if true.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:02 PM
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8. Link please. nt
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:05 PM
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9. This is old news ;)
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 12:11 PM by ihavenobias
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/30/AR2009033002526.html

This hasn't been confirmed, but someone said they heard Ed on the radio the other day basically dismissing the idea of him hosting a show, saying something like "I'm a radio guy". That could just be his reaction in light of the search for new hosts being put on hold, per the article above.
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:17 PM
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13. Well.....not exactly.
The last thing KO said last night was that there would be a major announcement on his show tonight. He wouldn't be announcing with fanfare that his reruns would continue. If Ed's a guest, then I think it's a pretty good assumption that the two may be connected.

I have no problem with Ed as a host. He's got the connections. He's got the senators and governors...he's even got the President.

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:23 PM
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14. Strange, considering that article I posted is all over the place, not just the Washington Post.
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 12:26 PM by ihavenobias
My guess from the start was that Ed would replace Shuster at 6pm, and that Ed would be a better fit at that time. The later evening hosts are usually funnier, more animated, etc. Ed has his pluses but being funny/witty is not one of them *in my opinion*. At least that's not what he's known for.

I think he's great for reaching centrists and left leaning Republicans. I'm neither so I wouldn't watch his show, but I appreciate his value. Although part of his connections come from being far too easy on Dems overall, but again, that's just my opinion. I'd like someone who goes after BOTH side when necessary.

I know, I know, this is where a huge Ed fan tells me he DOES go after both sides, I guess *I* just haven't seen it. But again, I'm hopeful that he'll engage fence sitters and right leaning types, that would be great!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:32 PM
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15. Cenk or Sam over Ed. Ed is not a student. The depth is not there.
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 12:36 PM by peacetalksforall
Maybe he would get by if he didn't make any claims. As we continue to learn about ourselves, it takes work to understand what is going on - lots of reading and analyzing and connecting dots. Ed surfs. He is in the 'now' only and now needs the past. I've cringed at some of the supposedly factual stuff he has said. Maybe he'll get educated while on the job.

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:33 PM
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16. I see the negative Nellie's have inundated the thread putting ED down before it's confirmed
Eating our own while we participate in a circular firing squad, it's e Democratic way.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:38 PM
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17. Long held opinion from listening to him. What do you want us to say?
There are more Democratic and progressive Dems who could shine.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:43 PM
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19. But how much appeal do they really have?
We BARELY support Olbermann and Maddow now and the ratings PROVE it.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:56 PM
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23. Um...they have some of the highest ratings out there?
What are YOU talking about?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 01:04 PM
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24. Have you compared them to FAUX, SpongeBob or Wrestling?
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:31 PM
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32.  the last thing we need is another wonky, wimpy liberal (like Seder) to keep the RW stereotype going
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:56 PM
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22. Ed is hardly one of our own
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 12:58 PM by Horse with no Name
He is a false left choice---but deeply ingrained in the Right way of thinking. He is NOT loyal to Democrats. Apologies for the wiki references--but Big Ed isn't important enough to have too many "reference" articles written about him.

http://ltradio.wikia.com/wiki/Ed_Schultz
Schultz considers himself a "progressive liberal". As such, his talk show is generally considered to be a liberal-leaning program. He is pro-union and centers a large portion of his radio show on the "plight of working class Americans". He has also repeatedly stated that he is a liberal Democrat willing to change political parties upon necessity.

However, Schultz is not universally liberal in his views, and in fact holds several views on social issues which would commonly be considered conservative. Schultz, for example, is opposed to abortion (though he does not want Roe v. Wade overturned) and gay marriage (although he does not believe there should be a Constitutional amendment banning it).
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 01:18 PM
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28. Ed has top Democrats on his show every day. He is Huge in the union community.
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 01:18 PM by onehandle
So what is "one of our own?"

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:23 PM
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30. You avoided my first question, but that's OK, it's par for the course around here.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:27 PM
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31. OK, so he's not perfect. But he is a strong champion for unions....
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:40 PM
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18. Anybody that has said the following is ok in my book:
Ed Schultz quotes:

Senator Jon Kyl is a “spineless scumbag”.

John McCain is a “warmonger”

“We lefties with microphones, we were never invited to the White House. Never got a chance to even urinate on the yard.

Senator Shelby from Alabama is a terrorist on the American worker. He is a terrorist on wage workers.”

Go big Eddie! If this is announcement is true, I wish Ed great success.
I will definitely be tuning in.

:thumbsup:
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:49 PM
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20. And...remember...
...he was previously banished from MSNBC for saying the Bush Administration were idiots. Tweety tried to get him to tone it down, but he refused. (I think it was Shuster that got him reinstated.) I honestly don't get the anti-Ed chorus here, do you?

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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 01:12 PM
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26. ha......I'd forgotten that one.
I'm also impressed that now he ALWAYS refers to the ex-VP as "SHOOTER"!
I don't get all the negativity either.
Ed has huge appeal to millions of people. He detests the previous criminal administration.
He is a constant defender of Labor and the middle class worker.
Every Friday he opens his show to small business owners to call in and promote their product and drum up some business.
I think it's great that he gives them free air time.
Is he perfect? No.....but I guess some people will never be happy with anything.
:shrug:
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 01:06 PM
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25. To the nay-sayers
1. I think Big Eddie can "reach" ditto heads. His manner is similar to Rush's and he doesn't come across as the stereotype of a liberal that the dittoheads have. Plus, he understands and gives credit to the non-rabid conservatives in rural areas. He's not my favorite radio host. But he could definitely be a "bridge" to those people who aren't really "Conservative" so much as they're "conservative" in the old sense of "traditional values" - I'm thinking of farmers, hunters, "salt of the earth" heartland types who feel disparaged by "coastal" liberals.

2. It's a moot point anyway, because I think that MSNBC is holding off on doing an original program at 10 PM. Partly, IMHO, because they don't want to compete with Leno's new show.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 01:18 PM
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27. I agree except on point #2.
I said weeks ago that I thought Ed would replace Shuster at 6pm, and that he'd be a much better fit at that time because while he has pluses (see your point #1), being funny/witty is not considered to be one of them. The 10pm EST host has gotta be off the cuff funny IMO. Not a comedian, just naturally funny.

I guess we'll see tonight.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 01:20 PM
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29. Exactly right!
My brother-in-law is an Idaho farm boy who hunts,fishes and drives a Ford pick-up truck.
I turned him on to the Ed Schultz show and now he is a regular listener.
He loves the guy.
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