I LOVE President Barack Obama!

[Badlands Democrat]

I'm sick of all the whiners: conservative, moderate, liberal or whatever. The man has been President for less than 3 months. And you know what? I'm still in love with America's First Family! And he's done a stellar job! So there!

[wryter2000]

1. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[FrenchieCat]

2. kewl! Join us then.....many of us love and respect the President

as you do.

More than it might appear in fact.

[WI_DEM]

3. He is doing a good job, I agree.

[ClusterFreak]

4. Abso-friggin'-lutely!

:toast:

[azmouse]

5. I like the way you think.

I'm happy so far too. :)

[Badlands Democrat]

9. Thank you!

8 years of George W. Bush.
Let me repeat:
8 years of George W. Bush.

It could take decades to fix everything he screwed up so very badly.

[malaise]

6. When it's real love

it comes with objective criticism.

Just saying!

[Badlands Democrat]

7. Dissent is cool and necessary

But perspective is important. 8 years of George W. Bush! Give him time to kick start his Keynesian economic plan (ala FDR). Again, he's been President less than 3 months. And whether you like it or not, he has set up a timetable to withdraw from Iraq, and as he promised in the campaign, he's focusing more on Afghanistan and our terrorist enemies there.

I love him! He's a badass.

[Oregone]

8. "Give him time to kick start his Keynesian economic plan"

If he starts it. Will we have any money left after tax cuts and bailing out the banks?

[Badlands Democrat]

10. The stimulus plan = deficit spending.

That's Keynes; Obama's started it. And Robert Reich predicted we'd be out of this recession by 2nd quarter 2010, for what it's worth.

[Oregone]

11. Uh, not entirely

Keynesian stimulus also about how the money is spent to combat "deficient demand". Do you trickle it down, from the wealthy (supply-side), or induce production/demand directly.

A stimulus plan doesn't have to actually by entirely deficit spending. The main point is to inject money into the economy that would otherwise be saved. You can also stimulate with tax revenue.

[Badlands Democrat]

13. I fully admit I'm not an economist.

But the stimulus plan, from my understanding, is designed to induce production/demand, and job creation. Which is why the supply-siders hate it.

[Oregone]

14. "Designed", is it?

It was thrown together over a week by ignorant congressional staffers who were feigning outrage and bipartisanship (it really is Obama's plan in name only). A massive portion of it was tax cuts (which will be spent on Wal-mart, online porn and debt), and I think the infrastructure stimulus was a mere $400 billion or so (when many economists were calling for $2 to $3 trillion). Its probably going to be a drop in a bucket, equivalent to pissing in the wind. Just saying. I think Keynes would by chuckling at it

[Badlands Democrat]

18. You sound like you know economics.

I just know the reason I was for it came from listening to the Republicans bitch and moan about it, and how the President and Congressional Democrats should be doing Bushonomics instead. And I thought, "Hmm, if they hate, I think I should like this."

And Walmart, online porn, and debt will increase spending and get the cogs moving again. Especially online porn.

[Oregone]

28. They hated it because 100% of it wasn't tax cuts

That doesn't mean its automatically perfect (or close).

Walmart goods are produced overseas (and hence, produce no domestic stimulus aside from moving products from a dock). Online porn doesn't stimulate a production chain at all (eh, heh), nor does paying down debt (a banker puts it in their pocket).

You want the money to be used such that 1) it cannot be saved and 2) it stimulates secondary sectors that are tangential to the one you are spending in. For example, a bridge project dictates that the money will be spent, and it will not only pay for the labor, but it will stimulate concrete suppliers, steel producers, freight shippers, etc, in a long chain (and the laborers associated with those other sectors). By doing so, you "multiply" the money you spend and you inject more money into the economy, dollar for dollar. Food stamps are similar, due to the massive amount of jobs needed to take food from a farm, prepare it, package it, and transport it to a store.

"Hoping" that tax cuts stimulate the economy (when they are used the way I pointed out), is supply-side garbage.

[Political Heretic]

12. OMG me too! That's why I expend so much energy paying attention and being critically engaged!

:woohoo:

[burythehatchet]

15. Unconditional love is the only real love.

:)

[FLAprogressive]

16. isn't it though?

[Badlands Democrat]

17. Sarcasm is adorable.

And one wonders why the "Rural Folks" thread is so popular...

Reminder =
Obama 2 1/2 months; Bush 8 years

[FLAprogressive]

19. I have heard this time meme more times than I can count

he has been a disappointment in the 2 1/2 months. Time will tell if he comes around and starts supporting unions, GLBT rights, and peace as opposed to Wall Street.

[Badlands Democrat]

22. You mean, time will tell if he's some sort of ultra-leftist that you hope he is,

when instead he campaigned as a left-of-center post-partisan Democrat with a lot of sewage to clean up.

[Political Heretic]

24. You say it as though its a bad thing

When in fact "leftists" have brought us pretty much every positive thing we've got in this society, and what we are lacking - the ways in which we're losing out to the rest of the industrialized world - mostly has to do with the ways in which we aren't left enough.

So sneer if you want....

[Badlands Democrat]

27. I know leftists have brought us 30 years of conservative and right-of-center Presidents.

[FLAprogressive]

32. right-of-center president? Like we have now?

[Badlands Democrat]

34. Barack Obama is most liberal President since Lyndon Johnson.

It's time to study up on your history, current events, and political statistics. Geez.

[FLAprogressive]

35. And still governing from the center-right.

[Political Heretic]

33. How did they do that, exactly ?

[FLAprogressive]

36. We went out and voted for the Democrats like we always do.....because we keep hoping.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. "I hit you because I love you."

[Political Heretic]

23. Ha nice.

I don't feel that's what I'm doing, but that was a witty comeback anyway.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. Fair enough.

I don't think what you're doing is either paying attention, or being critically engaged, but whatever.

[Political Heretic]

29. I don't even believe you know.

Rather you just lump me into some grouping in your mind. But whatever.

[Badlands Democrat]

26. Gee, why do rural folks not like progressives?

Maybe it's your wit. Do you ever try being serious?

[Political Heretic]

30. Me? No one's ever accused me of not being serious enough before.

I was being serious when I said I love Obama, and I was serious when I said the other person's comback remark was funny.... :shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

21. He stepped into a flaming pile of shit when he took office.

There are several issues I disagree with him on, but overall I think he's managing quite nicely.

[Political Heretic]

31. I do too. But I spend most of my energy focused on the issues where I have concerns...

..because I believe that's what I ought to be doing as an engaged citizen.

I can sort of understand how a forum community might wish to have a place where like minded folks could just relax and kind of have a circular "yep" club. But I use places like DU as a mechanism for sharping my arguments and stay critical and alert, so that when I go into my real advocacy positions in the real world I've been thinking and debating the issues already...

But just for those who could really stand to hear this right now....

I'm extremely happy that Obama is president. For one thing, I know there is a small minority of critics out there who ascribe personal bad motives or traits to Obama. Not me. I sincerely believe he is a brilliant man who has an earnest desire to be a good leader for all American people and not just a few. I think that's what he wants - I think those are his ideals for himself.

I am thrilled to have Obama representing the United States in the world. As far as policy goes I was an extremely intense supporter of the Recovery Act and so proud of the way he helped shepherd that through Congress without it getting reworked too badly. I'm a strong, strong supporter of the most progressive budget proposal we've seen in thirty years! In fact, Obama is turning out to have very outstanding domestic spending priorities.

Those are just a couple things.

My biggest area of disagreement is his choices for handling economic recovery and his choice not to make EFCA a policy priority for his Administration. And I'm sorry if this bothers anyone, but I'll definitely continue speaking out about those things here, as I do in the real world via my social and work opportunities.

[AtomicKitten]

38. Hey.

:thumbsup:

[Evoman]

37. I think of politicians and "leaders" in terns of "lesser degree of hate" rather than like or love.

I can't ever imagine actually liking a politician, nevermind loving one.

[noiretextatique]

39. i'm with you

i am more concerned about policy than feelings. obama inherited a huge mess...it will take time to fix it.

[SeeHopeWin]

40. Guess what?

I am with you 100%. And, I am voting Obama in 2012!

So there!

[4_TN_TITANS]

41. I'm with you...

Watching the reception the Obamas are getting at the G20 on the news last night, pounded home the point that the world is thrilled with our new leader and his kick ass Lady.
Once some domestic issues get turned around, I can only imagine what our guy will accomplish on a global scale. Only 3 months and new international agreements, sincere handshakes and warmth from world leaders... I saw many faces that said "now this is a guy I can work with".