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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:49 AM
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Major Nutcase Alert: Georgia Passes Nation's First Embryo Adoption Law

By Daniel Becker

ATLANTA -- By a vote of 108 to 61, the Georgia House sent the nation's first ever embryo adoption bill, HB 388, to the desk of Governor Sonny Perdue for him to sign into law.

"We are pleased that we are making headway in our goal of establishing personhood for the pre-born" says Daniel Becker, President of Georgia Right to Life. "Gone are the terms designating the human child at an embryonic stage as property ... devoid of rights." says Becker.

The language of the bill stops short of declaring full personhood for the child but does introduce new terms that acknowledge for the first time that an embryo has "rights and responsibilities" that are owed to it under Georgia law. "Legal embryo custodian" replaces "embryo donor" throughout Georgia's new code sections dealing with embryo adoption. No longer is an embryo described as being "donated" by its genetic parent.

"Gametes, cars, old clothes and other property are 'donated'" says the bill's author, House Rep. James Mills, "not children ... they are adopted."

It also clarifies that an embryo's life begins "at a single-celled" stage. "This is an important distinction as we see the medical community attempt to lessen the personhood of an embryo by re-defining a zygote to be a 'pre-embryo'" says Becker.

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http://www.thevoicemagazine.com/headline-news/525-georgia-passes-nations-first-embryo-adoption-law.html
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:50 AM
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1. Emoticons say what words can't........

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:50 AM
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2. This quote is just mind boggling.
"Estimates are that over 40,000 cryo-preserved human embryos are abiding in concentration cans in our state," says Becker, "this will allow them an opportunity to have a birthday."
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:00 AM
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13. What's the next step? Women being required to offer their
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 09:00 AM by JerseygirlCT
wombs so these "cryo-preserved human embryos" become anything more than that?

Big fat slippery slope here, and once again, women are the ones in the sights.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:02 AM
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29. concentration cans?
unbelievable.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:02 AM
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30. "Concentration cans"?
:rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:52 AM
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3. Wow. teh stupid, it hurts? nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:52 AM
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4. "...full personhood for the child..."
The child?! Children already have "full personhood!"

Anyway, let's hope this never succeeds.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:53 AM
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5. Can we be certain this is not the Onion?
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:59 AM
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12. The source isn't very informed.
See my post below.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:54 AM
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6. And yet again the world shudders at the deep stupidity in America.
This is so fucking beyond embarrassment.
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:55 AM
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7. Can I adopt all of them, and hold them hostage? n/t
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:56 AM
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8. Jesus H Christ. I thought it was something from "The Onion"
Of course, this is just the anti-abortionist's way of getting their foot in the door.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:57 AM
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9. So at birth I was already 9 months old. Does that mean I can get
full retirement benefits 9 months earlier than I thought?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:20 AM
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19. Ok, that's funny!
:spray:
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:24 AM
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33. What can I say....
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 10:30 AM by unapatriciated
It's Georgia, where you can't ....

keep a donkey in a bathtub.... or

No one may carry an ice cream cone in their back pocket if it is Sunday.

It is illegal to use profanity in front of a dead body which lies in a funeral home or in a coroners office.

Members of the state assembly cannot be ticketed for speeding while the state assembly is in session.

Cussing over the telephone is against the law.
(oh noes, I'm in trouble now)
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/georgia

We are working on legislation to put a stop to this.....

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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:08 AM
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32. or have a beer at 20 and 3 months
and vote at 17 and 3 months....
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:57 AM
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10. freeze 100 embryos declare 100 dependents.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:58 AM
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11. It'd be helpful not to get news from skewed perspectives.
The law is designed to protect adoptive families:

The Legislature signed off on a proposal that would provide legal protection to families who use donated embryos to have a child. The House's 108-61 vote Friday on the "Option of Adoption Act" is designed to prevent an embryo donor from later claiming the child born from that embryo to another family.

http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10129904

I am a bit concerned about this law giving "personhood" to cells, but the intent was not to move toward restricted reproductive rights, but to keep donors from staking a claim to any children the zygotes produce who have been adopted.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:02 AM
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14. yes, it's skewed but this rep used this language:
"Gametes, cars, old clothes and other property are 'donated'" says the bill's author, House Rep. James Mills, "not children ... they are adopted."

He referred to embryos as children.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:05 AM
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15. Their next innovation? Rescue stations for used condoms??
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:07 AM
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16. Idiots


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:09 AM
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17.  the adoptive parents could be eligible for a federal tax deduction!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:13 AM
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18. This is a real story
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:24 AM
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22. You're right. And here all these years I thought
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:27 AM
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23. Comments from that link:
I’m thankful I am moving to Missouri.

Link Report this comment TW

April 3rd, 2009
4:28 pm
There is no better proof of our failing schools than the morons we have running our state.

Does this mean the biological mother is merely an ‘incubator?’

Do the adoptive parents get to tell the ‘incubator’ what not to eat and what they can/can’t do?

If the ‘incubator’ miscarries, are the adoptive parents on the hook for funeral costs?

They’re starting to tell Georgia jokes in Alabama.

Morons.

Link Report this comment Kevin

April 3rd, 2009
5:11 pm
This is a maneuver by the radical Right to Lifers to chip away at a woman’s choice. Since the fringe right will never get abortion fully outlawed, they’re pulling stunts like this to advance their agenda.

This is a sham, and disgrace. The next step in their plan is to give the embryo rights.

If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:20 AM
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20. Imagine the tax deductions.
:crazy:
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:22 AM
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21. Arrest Menstruating Women who fail to get pregnant NOW !
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:10 PM
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38. Actually, send all used tampons to the Georgia legislature.
Many fertilized eggs routinely hit the cotton every month and get flushed down the toilet. Oops . . . forget this idea. They might make it a law of some kind.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:30 AM
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24. I lived in Georgia for a while a long time ago and pretty much liked it.
I'm really sorry to hear they have elected a real crop if idiots there - it was a beautiful state.


mark
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:45 AM
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26. It still is a beautiful state.
There are stupid everywhere.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:51 AM
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28. You are certainly right - I lived near the Augusta area, and really
liked it a lot.
Yes, we have more than our share here in PA, many of them holding elected office.
Rick Santorum was our senator at one time - no more need be said.


mark
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:33 AM
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34. very true
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 10:34 AM by Botany
It is very pretty and stupid is a universal condition

I live in Ohio Ken Blackwell & Rod Parsley :puke:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:42 AM
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25. But it takes TWO cells to create a human being, doesn't it?
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 09:43 AM by rocktivity
Amobeas are single-celled beings--do they now have "personhood"? And doesn't this law mean that each of my blood cells is a "being"?

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 09:49 AM
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27. If life begins at a single cell stage,
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 09:51 AM by Massacure
I'm going to run for prosecutor and whoever kills a man will be charged with one billion counts of murder. And whoever kills a woman will be charged with a a thousand counts of murder. :eyes:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:35 AM
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35. If life begins "at a single-celled" stage, we must save the sperm!!

Embryos = "snowflake babies"

Sperm = "little guppies"
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:04 PM
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37. Which means guys have to totally stop masturbating.
Stop it right now, ya hear?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:06 AM
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31. An embryo has rights and *responsibilities*?
Just curious -- what are embryos responsible for?

Equal rights and responsibilities for single-celled organisms: Amoebas of the world, unite!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 10:37 AM
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36. And, they have gun ownership rights
but that AK-47 is gonna be a tight fit.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:12 PM
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39. Gametes are donated??!!
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 01:13 PM by KamaAina
Who the hell is this James Mills, anyway? Some kind of commie??

Full personhood rights for gametes NOW!! All together:

"Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
And when a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate!"

:sarcasm:

edit: Freudian typo: scared for sacred!
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