Pittsburg cop killer was a McCain supporter

[sufrommich]

Mr. Perkovic and other former classmates said they were surprised by this morning's events. Mr. Perkovic said Mr. Poplawski was opposed to "Zionist propaganda" and was fearful that his right to own weapons would be taken away.

Another friend, Aaron Vire, 23, said he'd helped Mr. Poplawski and Mr. Perkovic with a radio show they'd broadcast on the Internet, discussing "girls and life."

Mr. Poplawski had supported Republican candidate John McCain in the presidential election and had "very spirited debates" about Democratic candidate Barack Obama, Mr. Vire said.

Mr. Poplawski was opposed to Mr. Obama's election, which he thought would result in the loss of his rights, Mr. Vire said.

"He wasn't a racist but thought some of his amendments were overlooked," Mr. Vire said.

Mr. Poplawski told him he bought his guns "because he felt the quality of life was being diminished," Mr. Vire said.

"He said he'll be ready if there's ever an invasion of the United States and that he had stockpiled foods and guns for that eventuality."


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09094/960660-100.stm

[rfranklin]

1. Being Republican is a form of paranoid schizophrenia,,,

Here's one more case to prove the point.

[ColbertWatcher]

61. No, but it is a mental illness.

I'd go so far as to say it's probably some combination of sociopath and narcissist.

Maybe even Borderline Personality Disorder.

[NutmegYankee]

2. Guess some anal expansion therapy will cure that problem.

Lock him in and toss the key.

[sundog]

12. huh?

[alcibiades_mystery]

29. Nutmeg was promoting the traditional American value of prison rape

he wants this offender to be sentenced to rape, in other words.

[sundog]

37. yeah i get it

he gonna get fucked up the ass

that'll learn him

tee hee

[Harry Monroe]

67. Well, the Republicans have been doing that to us these 8 past years

So, turnabout is fair play.

[NutmegYankee]

38. More a mocking of Prison as centers of rape (and carnage)

Anything is OK as long as the private corporation gets their pay. I don't support the degrading treatment in prisons, but made the joke to point it out, since we know it is a reality. One that breeds even worse criminals, many now infected with HIV to boot. People here are too quick to jump on others instead of commenting that yes, that is our fucked up system.

Sorry the dark humor didn't seem to fly. Sarcasm is truly dead it seems.


On edit: Obviously, the shooter will be locked in prison for life, face the death penalty, or be found insane and locked away in a mental facility for the rest of his life.

[Webster Green]

39. So, you think prison rape is OK?

Are you a big supporter of torture as well? :thumbsdown:

[NutmegYankee]

40. Does nobody here get dark humor or sarcasm?

What a fucking disgrace! See Post 38

[alcibiades_mystery]

43. When half of DUers actually don't mind prison rape

You're gonna have to do better on the so-called "dark humor" front.

[ColbertWatcher]

63. Actually, there are plenty of like-minded people waiting for him in prison.

He'll fit right in.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=569

[Sheets of Easter]

64. heh heh...heh heh...forced sodomy is funny...

[d_b]

65. +juan

[TwilightGardener]

3. Just a garden-variety RW nutcase. And apparently confused about what "Zionist" means.

Otherwise he wouldn't be a McCain/neocon fan.

[sufrommich]

4. My bet is on both right wing and white supremist. nt

[TwilightGardener]

7. You're probably right.

[Bicoastal]

8. Nah, people of every political stripe enjoy blaming the Jews for everything.

Same as it ever was.

[sufrommich]

15. True enough. nt

[NutmegYankee]

42. Sadly true n/t

[cali]

5. more importantly, he;'s mentally ill

that's why he was kicked out of Marine Corps bootcamp.

[sufrommich]

10. He's obviously mentally ill and that is important, but

the ratcheting up of right wing paranoia by right wing media may have also played a part. The guy was paranoid that "Obama would take his guns away". There is a whole right wing cottage industry set up to cater to these nuts.

[jwirr]

20. Wonder what rw broadcasters he listens to? Who was feeding his

paranoia?

[SOS]

53. "Strong words poison weak minds"- Bill Maher

nt

[ColbertWatcher]

62. Very true.

That reminds me of the Buford Furrow, who killed a kid at a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Jewish_Community_Center_shooting">Jewish Community Center.

He had a history of mental illness and consrvatism, excuse me, I mean was also a member of a white supremacist group.

I'd like to see which web sites he frequented.

[AlinPA]

21. One of the local TV stations said he was "dishonorably discharged due to

mental illness" - I doubt that the Marines would call actual mental illness dishonorable; he more likely had an attitude or other behaviour that merited dishonorable discharge if that is what happened.

[sufrommich]

23. I agree. I think it would be called a medical discharge. nt

[Kalyke]

31. They don't - you're right.

It's an honorable discharge due to a medical issue. They don't dishonorably discharge people who have an illness - whether that's cancer or bipolar issues.

[Djinn]

60. that depends on your definition of mental illness

PD's are not considered mental illnesses technically and if you're turfed from the army for BPD you may well find it listed as dishonorable

[ElsewheresDaughter]

58. Poplawski had once tried to join the Marines, but was kicked out of boot camp after......

throwing a food tray at a drill sergeant, Perkovic said.

Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said Poplawski feared that President Barack Obama was going to take away his rights, though he said he "wasn't violently against Obama."

Vire, 23, said Poplawski once had an Internet talk show but that it wasn't successful. He said Poplawski owned an AK-47 rifle and several powerful handguns, including a .357 Magnum.

Obama has said he respects Americans' constitutional right to bear arms, but that he favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he would approve some curbs on assault and concealed weapons.

Poplawski had been laid off from his job at a glass factory earlier this year, said another friend, Joe DiMarco. DiMarco said he didn't know the name of the company, but knew his friend had been upset about it.

[sandnsea]

6. NRA hysteria has caused more death than al qaeda n/t

[ShareTheWoods]

24. evidence?

Maybe some links or references to back up such a claim?

[Name removed]

36. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Pavulon]

50. Evidence? (post it or delete bs)

sorry them are the rules. Post count of 36 or many thousands does not matter. Back up your claim, unless it is just like, your opinion, man?

[pretzel4gore]

9. karl rove, limbah-humbug, fuxnews, is repukklican

these gun lovers are just paranoid nutty dingbats, fools with guns. guns is good. the nazipoohs fear the armed element, even if it's reactionary. But for that, they'd probably be rounding ...you/us lefties up already.

[Kahuna]

11. A freeper no doubt who bought into all the right wing nonsense about

their second amendment rights being abolished. Innocent officers are dead because of the freeper logic. I hope they are all very proud today.

[AnnieBW]

13. I wonder what his FR handle was?

What's sad is that I've used that title before.

How many times do we have to hear this shit before someone is called to account? Glenn Beck, BillO, Hannity, Coultergeist - the blood of 3 police officers is now on your hands.

[sundog]

14. not sure this is a great trail to go down

but whatever

[Luminous Animal]

16. I agree. n/t

[RagAss]

22. True...a nut is a nut.

[sandnsea]

25. "Obama's going to take my guns!"

That was quoted in another article. It's not that he's a McCain supporter, it's that he's one of those that the right wing has riled into insanity - and they won't take any responsibility for it.

[rvablue]

34. I agree. It doesn't matter who he voted for and McCain of all people wouldn't condone

or agree with any of the statements or beliefs this guy espoused according to his friends.

What if we find out tomorrow that the Binghamton shooter had a "HOPE" sticker on his car? Hmmm?

The folks who do have blood on their hands after this latest massacre, IMO, are the likes of Limbaugh and Beck who have been whipping their deranged listeners into a frenzy of paranoia.

I point my finger at them.

McCain? Sorry, can't go there.

[malaise]

35. Unitarian church slaughter

a Rushbot; Chairman of the Democratic Party in Arkansas - a Rushbot; the lunatic in Mass - a right wing freak; this lunatic a Rushican freak.
When should be go down that trail?

[AllieB]

41. What lunatic in Mass? The kid who killed his sisters?

[malaise]

51. No the one who was abusing his wife

and they found him with all sorts of weapons and material for a dirty bomb (or so they said)

[ColbertWatcher]

66. Remembering recent events is always a good trail to go down ...

... take this trail for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide#Media_Propaganda">talk radio propaganda before the Rwandan Genocide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Libre_des_Mille_Collines">Here is Wikip*dia's link to the radio station, which started less than a year prior to the beginning of the killing and somehow disappeared with the refugees who escaped over the borders.

Three of RTLM's "leaders" were charged with crimes from incitement to genocide, genocide, and crimes against humanity. They were found guilty, but appealed the convictions.

Meanwhile, Rwanda is slowly recovering.

For more information, please make time to check out all the links in Wikip*dia's "References" section from that same page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Libre_des_Mille_Collines#References ).

[bluestateguy]

17. President Obama can make one phone call and have him disappeared to Gitmo as an enemy combatant

Never mind Al Qaeda, we have terrorists right here in our own country!

[MrPerson]

18. This guy is dead meat.

[guy]

19. right wing propaganda has turned deadly......again

[lonestarnot]

26. Figures.

:thumbsdown:

[Hello_Kitty]

27. Oh jesus fuck why does every crazy Obama hater (or their defender)

Have to take such pains to assure us that they are "not a racist"? Of COURSE they're a fucking racist! It's the whole foundation of their conspiracy nutbaggery and wounded sense of entitlement.

[gizmo1979]

28. If those cops had guns

this would never have happened.Oh they did have guns.My bad.

[malaise]

30. He sounds like your average

Freeper. I only need to check his spelling.

[depakid]

32. One wonders also whether availability and stigmatization of mental health care

hasn't been a factor in all of this.

[Contrary1]

33. Chalk up another success for GOP fear mongering.

Anybody keeping score?

Unfortunately, with all the right-wing pundits spouting one lie after another, we will be seeing more of this.

[Gin]

44. boy was he ever right about one thing..... his quality of life sure has diminshed.....

[Sheltiemama]

46. And he sure doesn't have his guns anymore.

[Sheltiemama]

45. Local link?

We are hearing that one of the cops was from my town.

[ColbertWatcher]

47. How would a gun improve the quality of his life?

Do people even know what comes out of their mouths?

Or is this another example of the librul media misquoting the poor victim?

[burning rain]

56. Somehow they perceive it.

Beloved right-wing bloggers lost no time in starting to bawl over how this is going to affect their gun-owning hobby. Their self-centeredness comes as no surprise. (What, there's something else to this event?)

[burning rain]

48. Quite possibly just the beginning.

No surprise if we see a larger movement toward nutcase armed separatism than in the Clinton years, with more Randy Weavers and David Koreshes.

[iamthebandfanman]

49. while who he voted for is irrelevant

the fact he was a right wing nutjob conservative is.

[leftofthedial]

52. an entire HUGH segment of our population is mentally ill.

I don't mean to cast asparagus, but I'm SERIES!

[pinniped]

54. They were showing Invasion USA on KFSF Telefutura 66 the other day.

It was broadcast in Spanish.

He must have gotten spooked.

"He said he'll be ready if there's ever an invasion of the United States and that he had stockpiled foods and guns for that eventuality.

[NNN0LHI]

55. If we can convince people there is an old man living in the clouds they will believe anything

This is a major problem.

Don

[ElsewheresDaughter]

57. Who Is Richard Poplawski?.......

Friends, Family Talk About Pittsburgh Suspect In Police Officers' Triple-Killing

PITTSBURGH -- The man accused of fatally shooting three Pittsburgh police officers and injuring a fourth was alternately described by friends as "an easygoing, fun-loving guy" and a known gun enthusiast who was prepared to die after he woke up on a bright spring Saturday morning.

Between volleys of gunfire at his Stanton Heights home, 22-year-old Richard "Pop" Poplawski was apparently calling friends and family.

"He just told my nephew, Billy, that he was shot twice -- one in the arm, once in the leg," aunt Marianne Klimczyk told WTAE Channel 4's Bob Mayo. "He just told him to tell everybody that 'I love them' because he didn't think that he was going to get out of there alive."

Childhood friend Edward Perkovic said he spoke to Poplawski via telephone at about 8:30 a.m.

"What he said to me today was, 'Eddie, I'm going to die today. Tell your family I love them and I love you.' And I heard gunshots and he hung up the phone," Perkovic said. "This was a complete surprise to me and my family and everyone's families that were friends with him. Nobody ever expected something like this from him."

Perkovic said Poplawski feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon."

"He wasn't involved in any gangs, any militias. He believed in his right to bear arms. He believed that hard economic times were going to put forward gun bans," Perkovic said.

Pittsburgh Police Chief Nate Harper said Poplawski was armed with a high-powered assault rifle and a pistol, and he had a significant amount of ammunition as he allegedly fired out of his bedroom window on Fairfield Street.

"He has a few weapons. I know he has a machine gun, I know he has a couple rifles and I know he has a couple handguns…They're recreational, and for deer hunting and for everything. I mean, he's not a bad kid," Klimczyk said.

A posting on what was believed to be Poplawski's MySpace Web page said, "I spread my secrets out. Everybody knows something, but nobody knows everything. Some could call me crazy. My answer would be that at least I insist to exist."

The page, which was removed by MySpace in the afternoon, included a photo of Poplawski and a description in which he called himself reasonably intelligent and well-spoken, with a wild life ahead, saying that the world is his oyster.

Friends told WTAE Channel 4 Action News that Poplawski had also been in Marine boot camp.

"He wasn't fully a Marine. He got a dishonorable discharge out of boot camp. He wanted to get out of the Marine Corps," Perkovic said.

WTAE found court documents indicating a protection from abuse order and disorderly conduct, but no major criminal violations in Poplawski's history.

"He was just an easygoing, fun-loving guy, telling jokes," Jeff Loffler said. "Everybody knew him. He was just the kind of guy who you could have a conversation with even if you didn't know him."

Poplawski is charged with three counts of criminal homicide -- relating to the shootings of officers Eric Kelly, Paul Sciullo III and Stephen Mayhle -- and a count of aggravated assault against Officer Timothy McManaway, who suffered a hand wound.

"I apologize to the families and the police officers that are there to serve and protect us, that they lost their lives, but I don't want the stories about my nephew to be told the wrong way," Klimczyk said.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/19096134/detail.html

[Cha]

59. This is so tragically sad and if this

mr poplawski isn't the poster boy for the culmination of rwinger lies and hate radio..I don't know who is.

[HughMoran]

68. Rush and Hannity and O'Reiley and Savage and Coulter MURDERED those cops with their incitement

All of the above people should be tried and executed for inciting this violence.

:mad:

There will be more - these psycho's need to be stopped now!!