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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:46 AM
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6-year-old sentenced toTraffic School - Won't keep seat belt buckled
LOS LUNAS (KRQE) - Even though mom got the ticket a Los Lunas magistrate judge isn't letting her child off the hook for refusing to buckle up.

The child's mother, who was ticketed for failing to restrain her child, asked Judge John "Buddy" Sanchez if he could help discipline her 6-year-old.

The boy always took his seat belt off despite her pleas, the mother said.

"He took off his seat belt, I pulled over again and put it on and he took it off right in front of the cop," said Jessica who did not want to release her full name.

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After some discussion Chavez and Sanchez agreed on a simpler solution to teach the young lawbreaker a lesson.

"Full seat-belt school," Sanchez said.

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/crime_krqe_los_lunas_6_year_old_sentenced_to_traffic_school_200904082345

Mom is going to school with him - I think this was a clever solution by mom & judge.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:48 AM
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1. Where they will teach him how not having a seatbelt on can cost the insurance companies more on
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 11:49 AM by RB TexLa
claims, and how we have to protect their profits at all costs. Doesn't this child want AllState to succeed?


On edit: Of course they won't tell him that, they will lie and say the state cares if he lives or dies.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:14 PM
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11. Are you saying
insurance industry profits are the reason for seatbelt laws?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:17 PM
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12. Of course they are. Why do you think they spent millions in lobbying and contributions
to get those laws passed?
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:31 PM
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20. Well then
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 12:31 PM by sharp_stick
speaking as someone who has pulled the remains out of several cars after seeing the nice little "starburst" windshield pattern caused when the head of somebody with no seatbelt collides with the windshield. I guess I should say good for the insurance companies! Damn I never thought I'd have an opportunity to say that.

That nice little starburst is even nicer when you see two of them on the passenger side caused by Mom holding a baby on the lap during the crash.

Driving an ambulance for 5 years gave me a nice healthy respect for the utility and need for seatbelts, airbags and crumple zones in the modern car.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:34 PM
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21. And I guess you have no respect for personal freedom and choice when risk is involved
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:40 PM
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22. I guess not
Perhaps we could pass a law where you are allowed to drive without your seatbelt as long as you consent to not having any personal medical insurance while you do it?

No way I want to pay higher insurance prices because you don't give a shit. Maybe you could use a ridealong on an ambulance for a day or two, some of those accident scenes haunt me still.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:48 PM
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23. Why limit it to that decision? Why not have smokers, drinkers, fast food eaters all consent to not
having personal medical insurance either. No reason for you to respect the freedom to make those choices, I mean, how could you?
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:50 PM
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24. Now you're reaching
why is it that Libertarians can never stay on topic?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:54 PM
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25. Why should you have to deal with someone having a heart attack when they could have decided the way
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 01:13 PM by RB TexLa
you think they should have and maybe you would not have to see and deal with that. Don't they realize what they are doing to you? Not just your nightmares but your insurance premiums as well, it's like they didn't even think about you when choosing how to live their lives.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 01:11 PM
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28. How dare you restrict his liberty
to stray off topic.

Libertarian means never having to say "on second thought".
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:23 PM
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16. well, yaaa. lol. was the conservatives that got the initial bills passed
cause of the damn insurance companies. think it has anything to do with concern for the people.

bwah hahaha
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:28 PM
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19. I don't care what the initial reason for the law is, seatbelt laws save lives.
If AllState and their ilk benefit from that, who the fuck cares? Ultimately, it boils down to less people being mutilated and killed in car accidents. I don't see how that can be a bad thing.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:49 AM
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2. I think that mom is in for a whole lotta trouble if he's six and being
that disobedient.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:54 AM
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6. lol lol. i am thinking too. i was thinking what i would have done to MAKE my child
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 11:59 AM by seabeyond
leave seatbelt on and really, there would have been no "making" the child, pleading with child or anything else for that matter. i told kids, and they did it, especially at that age. i cant even particularly say why. but i feel that if at that point, pleading with kids, something off
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:55 AM
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8. Yup. In fact, if I started backing out of the driveway and one of them
wasn't buckled yet, they screeched "I'm not buckled" so I could stop until they were.

This particular thing just simply isn't up for debate.

I predict many more visits to court for mom and son.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:18 PM
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13. Yep--that's exactly what LyricKid does.
He is notorious for freaking out if the car moves even a few inches without his seatbelt buckled. He was so proud of finally outgrowing his booster seat last Fall; he's been hyper-vigilant about his seatbelt ever since he graduated to using the "grownup belt" by itself.

:hi:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:22 PM
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15. life gets good once you dont have the seat anymore.
my kids are 11 and 14 so been out a while. now i have been gettting my nieces baby, and fuck.... having to deal with the damn seat is a pain in the tush
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:49 AM
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3. That or she could just learn to discipline her child properly.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:53 AM
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5. seriously!
Cops and courts are not your "partners in parenting." If your little bastard won't keep his seat belt on, come up with a way to force him to, or give him up for adoption - you've failed.

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 01:02 PM
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27. Yep. I imagine that his disobedience extends beyond seatbelts.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:49 AM
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4. Good. This may make an impact on the kid.
And save mom thousands in tickets.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:54 AM
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7. Great. Some kids become a problem getting out of their seatbelts.
The kid wouldn't do as told, so he can go with mom to the school.

Great solution.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:00 PM
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9. Lowest seatbelt use in the nation? Massachusetts (WTF?)
Edited on Thu Apr-09-09 12:00 PM by FailureToCommunicate
Why? Lots of hospitals everywhere??
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:05 PM
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10. Oh just duct tape some kitchen mitts on the kid, then let's see how he does.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:25 PM
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17. Just what do you think that kid is doing....
....once he's got that lap belt out of his way. :evilgrin:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:19 PM
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14. I like that they are making the school
and will require both child and parent to attend it whenever someone is cited for having an unrestrained child in the car.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:28 PM
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18. I wonder if they'll show "Signal 30?"
That kid will have nightmares for weeks!

This is a great solution, though. The judge was smart enough to realize the problem was a bratty kid, not a scofflaw mother.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 12:57 PM
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26. Hey, I remember "Signal 30!"
I saw it on the last day of driver's education. Is it still shown today?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 01:25 PM
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29. He can watch it on the net!!
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