More Jesus Pushing in the Military

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http://www.military.com/news/article/April-2009/air-force-colonel-cleared-of-promoting-religion.html?ESRC=dod.nl

During my career in the military (five years Army) I only encounter one incident of religious bullying, which occurred in basic training and was instantly and effectively dealt with by one of my drill sergeants. However, this sort of stuff is still going on, and it's really a discredit to our people in uniform. For those unfamiliar with the rank system, a Colonel (the rank held by the person sending the video) is one rank below getting your first star and becoming a General...so it's a position of major influence.

An Air Force colonel has been cleared in an investigation into whether an e-mail she sent to her airmen violated the military’s stance of religious neutrality.

Col. Kimberly Toney, commander of the 501st Combat Support Wing at RAF Alconbury, sent an e-mail on Jan. 16 referring airmen to an "inspirational" video on a Roman Catholic Web site.

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As first reported by online news magazine The Public Record, some Air Force personnel who watched the video said they believed it violated the military’s ban on endorsing particular religious views. Some said they were more bothered by other things on the Catholic Web site, 4marks.com, such as an image illustrating President Barack Obama’s support for abortion rights by showing the president in a Nazi uniform and waving a flag with a swastika on it.

Mikey Weinstein, head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, said the incident represented a "textbook case" of improper religious influence, according to a New York Times story.

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1. and Faux News all the time n/t

[Warpy]

2. It they pushed the Jesus in the four gospels, they'd have no army

The problem is that they're pushing the rich man's Jesus of Paul, the one who said belief was all that was necessary to enter heaven, forget all that sissy love your neighbor stuff and giving all you have to the poor, that was a joke for suckers.

Paul serves Empire very well, which is why he's in there and Thomas is not.

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3. It's the damned fundies

and the incessant need they feel to "witness" to everyone that comes in contact with them. Their cult pretty much forces them to sell this shit to everyone or they'll never get to join the glory of Gawd.

My neighbor is a nice guy that belongs to a fundy church, he's tried to bring up Gawd once or twice but you could tell it made him really uncomfortable. Our relationship got a whole lot better as soon as he knew I wasn't interested in hearing it. One of his fellow fundies was over at his place during a bbq and man he was an aggressive shit. I pretty much had to tell him to fuck off before he quit bugging my wife with his witnessing shit. I thought my wife was going to kick him in the nuts.

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5. No Question

Its the Fundies. My incident was with our company XO (2nd Leiutenant) in basic training during a Sunday service during our field training exercise. They had a big outdoor service and most people went "down the hill" to participate. I stayed up by our camp site and was helping break down tents. The XO came up and told me (and two or three other troops who were up there working) that we needed to go down and listen to the service. As a basic training soldier, it's hard to say no when you've got an officer telling you to do something. Luckily my Drill was standing nearby and overhead. He walked over and said "Sir, if they don't want to go sing for Jesus, they don't have to. I told them to break down tents, and they're breaking down tents." He stood there until XO went away.

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6. Good for your Drill Instructor

It's nice to hear that he stood up for you. This has to be removed from the military for the simple reason that you can't say no to an officer. You wind up being a captive audience for the chaplin. I have no problem with them offering services to anybody that want's to go to the services but it has to be up front and known that nobody is obligated to go.

One of my fathers best friends when I was a small kid was a DI at Parris Island. I absolutely loved this guy, his gravelly voice and nasty outward demeanor sure hid one of the nicest men I've every met.

[billyoc]

4. Court martial a few of these traitorous Christian Falangists.

See if that helps.

[AndyTiedye]

7. A Far More Serious Issue is Insubordination. Obama is their Commander-in-Chief

showing the president in a Nazi uniform and waving a flag with a swastika on it.

This colonel's military career needs to be over. NOW.