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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:32 PM
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Faith Based Initiatives ain't just an office in the White House.
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 07:43 PM by progressoid
Madfloridian's post about the Department of Education having a Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Center made me do a little digging. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5430621

The White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives is now called the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships.
(That name change makes all the difference to me.):eyes:

But here's what shocked me. This isn't just a program run out of an office in the White House. You'll find them all over the place.
Here's what I found in just a couple minutes using the Google tubes:


They are in the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services
http://www.hhs.gov/fbci/

And the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
http://www.hud.gov/offices/fbci/

And the U.S. Department of Education
http://www.ed.gov/about/inits/list/fbci/index.html

And the Department of Labor
http://www.dol.gov/cfbci/

And the Department of Agriculture
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_CJ?navid=FBCI

And the Department of Veterans Affairs
http://www1.va.gov/fbci/

The Justice Department
http://www.usdoj.gov/fbci/

The Small Business Administration
http://www.sba.gov/aboutsba/sbaprograms/faithbased/FBCI_PARTNERSHIP_INDEX.html

USAID
http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/global_partnerships/fbci/index.html

Let's not forget Homeland Security!
http://www.dhs.gov/xabout/structure/editorial_0829.shtm

:grr: :banghead::grr: :banghead::grr: :banghead::grr: :banghead::grr: :banghead::grr: :banghead::grr: :banghead:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:33 PM
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1. So, not only did Cheney burrow into the federal government, but the fundies have too!
I'm not surprised.

Nor, does this make it any better.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 10:27 AM
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17. But, why are they still there on a federal level?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:37 PM
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2. WTF?????
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:39 PM
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3. You may be surprised to find out that such initiatives are not new.
Memorandum on Additional Guidelines for Charter Schools - Bill Clinton, President of the United States - Transcript

May 4, 2000

Memorandum for the Secretary of Education Subject: Additional Guidelines for Charter Schools

My Administration has taken landmark steps to help State and localities improve educational opportunities for students by providing much needed resources to reduce class size, improve teacher quality, and expand summer school and after-school programs. Last year, for the first time ever, the Federal Government provided funds to States and localities specifically to intervene and assist low-performing schools. This year, our School Improvement Fund will provide $134 million to States and localities to help them turn around low-performing schools. In addition, through the 1994 reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and Goals 2000, States have developed standards and accountability systems to identify schools that are low performing. Already, we are seeing results from this focus on standards-based reform and greater investment, including a rise in test scores among our most disadvantaged students. Nonetheless, much work remains to be done. In too many communities, predominately low-incom e communities, there is still a shortage of high-quality educational opportunities available to students.

<...>

Faith-based and community-based organizations play an important role in feeding the hungry, caring for the sick, and educating our children in communities around this Nation. Already many faith- and community-based organizations partner with government at the Federal, State, and local level to help our Nation's families. Under my Administration, faith-based organizations have also become eligible to receive Federal funds in an array of social programs on the same basis as other community-based organizations, consistent with the constitutional line between church and state. For example, States can use their welfare reform funds to contract with faith-based organizations on the same basis as other nongovernment providers to provide services such as job preparation, mentoring, childcare, and other services to help families moving from welfare to work. The 1998 Human Services reauthorization similarly allows faith-based organizations to provide services under the Community Services Block Grant to reduce poverty, revitalize low-income communities, and help low-income families become self-sufficient.


Obama tried to distinguish his program from Bush's, but these programs were initiated by Clinton.




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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:53 PM
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14. Not quite:
Executive Order 11246, signed by President Johnson in 1965, expanded the prohibitions against employment discrimination to all government contractors...

Over time, various civil rights laws were passed that contained similar prohibitions against discrimination and employment based on race, religion, color, national origin or sex. None of these Executive Orders affected the religious exemption set forth in Title VII, but they drew the separation between Church and State so that federal taxpayer money was not used to fund religious activity and discrimination based on religion was not permitted while using taxpayer dollars.

In the 1990s, then-Senator John Ashcroft created the concept known as ‘Charitable Choice’ during the drafting of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. The concept altered existing law to permit taxpayer-financed social service funding of houses of worship in a few welfare programs.

This approach represented a radical change. In the past, government sometimes contracted with organizations such as Catholic Charities or United Jewish Communities to provide services, but safeguards were kept in place to protect the integrity of the groups and the interests of taxpayers.

Houses of worship did not contract directly with the government; rather, religious institutions created separate entities (usually 501(c)(3)s) to handle public funds and did not incorporate religion into the publicly funded program.

Further, Johnson’s Executive Order had maintained safeguards against employment discrimination in these programs receiving taxpayer dollars.

President Clinton signed these Charitable Choice provisions into law but issued signing statements indicating that his Administration would not “permit governmental funding of religious organizations that do not or cannot separate their religious activities from activities” because such funding would violate the Constitution.

In short, the Clinton Administration interpreted the provisions as being constrained by the constitutional mandates that prohibit the direct funding of houses of worship and government-funded employment discrimination.

No federal money went to organizations that were pervasively sectarian, no money went to any organization with the Title VII exemption, and therefore no one could exercise discrimination using these funds while Clinton was President.

Under the Bush Administration, Charitable Choice was vastly expanded through a series of Executive Orders.

In 2001, Executive Orders 13198 and 13199 created and set out organizational guidelines for a White House Office of Community and Faith-Based Initiatives. Executive Orders 13280 (2002), 13342 (2004), and 13397 (2006) mandated that the departments of Justice, Education, Labor, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Agriculture, Commerce, Veteran Affairs, and Homeland Security, the Agency for International Development and the Small Business Administration all establish a Center for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives.

In 2002, the most controversial Executive Order was issued – Executive Order 13279 – which made it easier for churches and other faith-based organizations to receive federal money by letting them circumvent certain anti-discrimination laws. Under the umbrella of the Faith-Based Initiative, the Bush administration began allowing discrimination with federal money for the first time since the 1960s.

For decades, religious organizations have been providing social services, including in some cases with the use of government funds, without the Faith-Based Initiative.

The fundamental differences between the Faith-Based Initiative and the long-standing legal provisions regarding faith-based organizations’ participation are:

(1) allowing proselytization during a secular, government-funded program; and

(2) permitting employment discrimination with federal funds.

Any program that could be federally funded under the Faith-Based Initiative could have been funded before it if the sponsoring organization agreed not to discriminate in employment and not to proselytize.

During the 2008 campaign, President Obama said that he would not allow discrimination with federal money, unlike the Bush Administration. However, on February 5th 2009, when the Obama Administration unveiled its new White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, reversals of Bush’s controversial policies were notably absent. Joshua DuBois, who has been appointed to lead the Office, stated that claims of discrimination will be investigated "on a case-by-case basis.”

http://www.bobbyscott.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=295:charitable-choice&catid=37:on-the-issues







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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:13 AM
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15. so very different. What bush did is not even close to what Clinton did. incomparable!
Bush moved faithbased offices INTO the government, which is aboslutley unconstituitonal. What Clinton describes here is funding all community organizaitons equally, INCLDUING faith based. ENTIRELY different ballgame my friend.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:40 PM
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4. It's sickening.
This should never have been allowed to take place.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:40 PM
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5. OMG
This is nuts

(BTW, the Homeland Security link isn't working.)
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:43 PM
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6. Thanks - fixed.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:46 PM
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7. Thanks. What a scary statement...
The CFBCI will coordinate Department’s efforts to eliminate regulatory, contracting and other programmatic obstacles to the participation of faith-based and community organizations in the Department’s social and community service programs.


Eliminate regulations?!

wtf?

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:45 PM
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11. Do you have a link to that quote? To eliminate obstacles to faith-based?
Yes, scary.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:50 PM
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13. It's the Homeland Security link in the OP
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 07:58 PM
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8. Nothing new about it
Bush had this all over govt. I believe it was just a cover though to hide the fact that most of the money was leaving the USA and being spent on proselytizing by the evangelical missions.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:55 PM
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9. But this is supposed to be the change guy.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:37 PM
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10. Ya.
That's the troublesome thing.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:22 PM
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18. um, right/sure/don't hold your breath/forget about justice too
:cry:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:46 PM
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12. Recommended.
We need to all be aware of this. I did not realize it was all so entrenched in every department now.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:34 AM
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16. The next smart move would be to award no-bid contracts to faith-based organizations.
As long as we're going to hell in a handbasket...
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:41 PM
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19. I write grant applications and funding proposals for a local non-profit . . .
(among other things), and recently we've had occasion to respond to three RFPs from various federal agencies . . . each of the RFPs ("Requests for Proposals") had a whole section about how so-called "faith-based" organizations could apply for the funds being distributed . . . each, in fact, actually encouraged faith-based entities to apply -- as if the feds are specifically looking to fund these kinds of outfits . . .

seems it's a government-wide policy these days, and not one I'm at all comfortable with . . . first of all, funding religious organizations (well, that's what they are) leaves fewer funds available for legitimate non-profits who have been working in their particular fields and and scrimping for money for years . . . and second, it violates the separation of church and state that's been a foundation of our government for a very, very long time . . .

add in the "takeovers" of certain agencies (e.g. the Department of the Air Force) by dominionists and other religious fanatics, and it all adds up to a scary dip into the realm of theocracy that should cause everyone a fair measure of concern . . .

here's an example from a recent Department of Justice RFP . . .

"Consistent with President George W. Bush's Executive Order 13279, dated December 12, 2002, and 28 C.F.R. Part 38, it is DOJ policy that faith-based and community organizations that statutorily qualify as eligible applicants under DOJ programs are invited and encouraged (my emphasis) to apply for assistance awards to fund eligible grant activities. Faith-based and community organizations will be considered for awards on the same basis as other eligible applicants and, if they receive assistance awards, will be treated on an equal basis with all other grantees in the administration of such awards. No eligible applicant or grantee will be discriminated for or against on the basis of its religious character or affiliation, religious name, or the religious composition of its board of directors or persons working for the organization.

"Faith-based organizations receiving DOJ assistance awards retain their independence and do not lose or have to modify their religious identity (e.g. removing religious symbols) to receive assistance awards. DOJ grant funds, however, may not be used to fund any inherently religious activity, such as prayer or worship. Inherently religious activity is permissible, although it cannot occur during an activity funded with DOJ grant funds; rather, such religious activity must be separate in time or place from the DOJ-funded program. Further, participation in such activity by individuals receiving services must be voluntary. Programs funded by DOJ are not permitted to discriminate in the provision of services on the basis of a beneficiary's religion."

sounds innocuous enough in some ways, I suppose, but it certainly points to a very dangerous trend, imo . . .
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:05 PM
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20. Sounds innocuous and a lot of people think it is.
Another worry I have is how it will become standard practice now. Once a govt program is started, it's hard to stop it. Indeed,
this program seems to be expanding.

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